The Church of Rome denies Jesus came in the flesh

[Reggie Belafonte]

I have never heard of the RCC doctrine make such a stupid claim, as if Jesus did not come in the flesh !

Christ Jesus is not of the flesh ! for to see him, one needs the Holy Spirit in fact ! big diffrence in fact !

But to see Jesus in the flesh is a carnal wishful thinking in fact ! Like how many carnal morons have i had say to me, That they will believe in Jesus when they see him ! HAHA how pathetic ! People seen him in the flesh and wanted to kill him in fact !

How does one come so as to understand who Christ Jesus truly is ? only the Holy Spirit gives you such !

The Worthy Jews who were with Jesus had faith that he was the one ! but they did not know him to be the Christ untill he went to Heaven in fact and it was then that the Holy spirit gave them the Light to truly understand in fact !

Now Nathniel was blown away by Jesus ! because Nathniel was truly worthy Israel in fact, he believed ! but Jesus pointed out, what Nathniel would truly see in fact !

 

[Hidden In Him]

We see what the Bible says..

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The antichrist has to deny Jesus came in the flesh. Let’s look up the greek word “flesh” in the greek Lexicon and see what it can mean:

Strong’s Hebrew/Greek Concordance:

sarx: Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such): – carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

Thayer’s Greek Lexicon:

Thayer Definition:
1) flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts

2) the body 2a) the body of a man 2b) used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship 2b1) born of natural generation 2c) the sensuous nature of man, “the animal nature” 2c1) without any suggestion of depravity 2c2) the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin 2c3) the physical nature of man as subject to suffering

3) a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast

4) the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God

Now… what is our human nature? What are all human beings guilty of according to the bible? They are all guilty of SIN (Romans 3:23). Our human nature if our “want” to, or being “prone” to sin. The bible teaches that although Jesus never sinned, he became sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21). It teaches that Jesus came through the line of David (Matthew 1:1) yet David said, “Behold, I was shapen in INIQUITY; and in SIN did my mother conceive me.” -Psalm 51:5. This means that the whole line of David was a lineage individuals with a nature to sin, including Jesus. This is how Jesus, being God, could be tempted to sin (compare James 1:13 with Hebrews 4:15) because he became man, and being made into a man he had the same human nature as man… the ability to sin.

So, how does the Roman Catholic Church teach that Jesus did not come in the flesh (human nature)? Well when they teach that the Virgin Mary was sinless at her conception of the baby Jesus, they in essence teach that Jesus has not come in the flesh, because Jesus came through her lineage, and as David had a nature to sin, she also had a nature to sin. Read the following quote from a Roman Catechism:

491. “Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, ‘full of grace’ through God, [Lk 1:28 .] was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854: The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of JESUS Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin. -Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus (1854): DS 2803.

To say that Jesus came into the world this way, born of a virgin who was not of sinful “flesh” as we are all in our human nature, is to say he did not come in the “flesh” of sinful nature because he came through HER lineage. Think about it.

Then why do they plainly state in their catechism that He did?


II. The Incarnation

461 Taking up St. John's expression, "The Word became flesh," 82 the Church calls "Incarnation" the fact that the Son of God assumed a human nature in order to accomplish our salvation in it. In a hymn cited by St. Paul, the Church sings the mystery of the Incarnation:

Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross.83

462 The Letter to the Hebrews refers to the same mystery:

Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me; in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. Then I said, 'Lo, I have come to do your will, O God.'"84

463 Belief in the true Incarnation of the Son of God is the distinctive sign of Christian faith: "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God."85 Such is the joyous conviction of the Church from her beginning whenever she sings "the mystery of our religion": "He was manifested in the flesh."86

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

Catholicism is evil. A work of the devil and his demons

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Catholicism is evil. A work of the devil and his demons

If one is not Catholic you are not a Christian in fact !
The RCC claimes to be a Catholic Church in fact !
The C of E claimes to be a Catholic Church in fact !
The Lutheran Church claimes to a Catholic Church in fact !
As does every other Denomination. Bar the ones, who do not truly respect that Jesus is the Christ !

 

[David Lamb]

If one is not Catholic you are not a Christian in fact !
The RCC claimes to be a Catholic Church in fact !
The C of E claimes to be a Catholic Church in fact !
The Lutheran Church claimes to a Catholic Church in fact !
As does every other Denomination. Bar the ones, who do not truly respect that Jesus is the Christ !

That just isn't so. Baptists don't claim to be Catholic, nor do most other Protestant denominations. Maybe catholic with a small c, meaning universal, world-wide, but not Catholic with a capital C, meaning joined to the Roman Catholic church.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

If one is not Catholic you are not a Christian in fact !
The RCC claimes to be a Catholic Church in fact !
The C of E claimes to be a Catholic Church in fact !
The Lutheran Church claimes to a Catholic Church in fact !
As does every other Denomination. Bar the ones, who do not truly respect that Jesus is the Christ !

Catholicism is not Christian. It worships Mary, Saints, and man made traditions/rituals.
Growing up I had to go to a catholic church but I thank GOD that HE opened my eyes at a very young age to the evil being preached. I have spent years speaking against it. I believe Catholicism is worse than being an atheist.

Fact, Catholicism is based on works, based on lies, and mocks Jesus by showcasing an image of Him on the cross. I pray that you will repent and see who He is and how most of what the Catholic church teaches is denying the authority, power, and holiness of God.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

That just isn't so. Baptists don't claim to be Catholic, nor do most other Protestant denominations. Maybe catholic with a small c, meaning universal, world-wide, but not Catholic with a capital C, meaning joined to the Roman Catholic church.

I do not know about Baptist, not to mention their are a few different denominations.

Catholic means Catholic !

The Church of Rome claims to be Catholic ! It is not the RCC ? but Claims to be ? Catholic !

One only has to read the Doctrine regarding such as Catholic truly means.

 

[shepherdsword]

We see what the Bible says..

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The antichrist has to deny Jesus came in the flesh. Let’s look up the greek word “flesh” in the greek Lexicon and see what it can mean:

Strong’s Hebrew/Greek Concordance:

sarx: Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication) human nature (with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically) a human being (as such): – carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).

Thayer’s Greek Lexicon:

Thayer Definition:
1) flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts

2) the body 2a) the body of a man 2b) used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship 2b1) born of natural generation 2c) the sensuous nature of man, “the animal nature” 2c1) without any suggestion of depravity 2c2) the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin 2c3) the physical nature of man as subject to suffering

3) a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast

4) the flesh, denotes mere human nature, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore prone to sin and opposed to God

Now… what is our human nature? What are all human beings guilty of according to the bible? They are all guilty of SIN (Romans 3:23). Our human nature if our “want” to, or being “prone” to sin. The bible teaches that although Jesus never sinned, he became sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21). It teaches that Jesus came through the line of David (Matthew 1:1) yet David said, “Behold, I was shapen in INIQUITY; and in SIN did my mother conceive me.” -Psalm 51:5. This means that the whole line of David was a lineage individuals with a nature to sin, including Jesus. This is how Jesus, being God, could be tempted to sin (compare James 1:13 with Hebrews 4:15) because he became man, and being made into a man he had the same human nature as man… the ability to sin.

So, how does the Roman Catholic Church teach that Jesus did not come in the flesh (human nature)? Well when they teach that the Virgin Mary was sinless at her conception of the baby Jesus, they in essence teach that Jesus has not come in the flesh, because Jesus came through her lineage, and as David had a nature to sin, she also had a nature to sin. Read the following quote from a Roman Catechism:

491. “Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, ‘full of grace’ through God, [Lk 1:28 .] was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854: The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of JESUS Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin. -Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus (1854): DS 2803.

To say that Jesus came into the world this way, born of a virgin who was not of sinful “flesh” as we are all in our human nature, is to say he did not come in the “flesh” of sinful nature because he came through HER lineage. Think about it.

You are misunderstanding the entire concept.However, the RCC reserves the right to call down Jesus from heaven into a little cookie. That's just about as bad.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Catholicism is not Christian. It worships Mary, Saints, and man made traditions/rituals.
Growing up I had to go to a catholic church but I thank GOD that HE opened my eyes at a very young age to the evil being preached. I have spent years speaking against it. I believe Catholicism is worse than being an atheist.

Fact, Catholicism is based on works, based on lies, and mocks Jesus by showcasing an image of Him on the cross. I pray that you will repent and see who He is and how most of what the Catholic church teaches is denying the authority, power, and holiness of God.

I have seen no point on anything to do with the Doctrines of the RCC that it is based on Works at all ! however I do know of so called RCC people who do abide in works, not to mention so do most Prot regardless of what they claim in fact ! Oh they will jump up and make a great fuss that they don't ! but when anyone says look what we have done ? or their Church makes such a claim ! well that's Works ! or they may say look at this or that ? see !
But No ! It's about who has been Saved ! who's work is that ? It's not of us in fact ! but yes the hope is of all worthy Christians so as to let Christ do the work in them ! and then I one says Look ! Now who is the work done by, not me or you but that of Christ Jesus working through his Body. the Glory never goes to me or others but Christ Jesus alone in fact ! We can not boast ! we give it all thanks to Jesus !

The Cross is nothing at all but what does the Bible call a Cross ? what was such used for ? such is Satanic ! but we preach a crucified Jesus on the Cross ! that is the whole point ! who did that to him ? Us ! our Sin ! That's the key to who and what we were !

It shows what was done to one who was clearly inocent ! Get that in your face ! because it's True ! It's a Key point ! if one does not get that ! then one can never be truly Saved ! because you better respect it ! and understand why, it's a good reminder of what Carnal man truly is in fact, because such a bastard will do such a thing to Jesus in fact, for clearly it's the path that they are on in fact !
Do you know Jesus is the Christ ! best respect that it was he who was dealt with by bastards in fact !
We are talking about Christ Jesus in fact ! not a bloody Cross !
The Cross does not Save ones Soul !

All of the load of BS that idiots come up with regarding why not to have Jesus on the Cross, now if the RCC make such claims as Prots claim, they must be idiots. I have heard some way out cock and bull stortys on such, all the work of the Devil in fact.

What is wrong with the Saints ? only a Devil would slander a Saint !
Sure sainthood on the RCC of the last how many years is BS ! fast tracking Pope JP 2 and all that is a load of total BS ! Making up Saints for this world is a Criminal act !
Saints be praised ! One may learn from a real Saint.

 

[Hobie]

You are misunderstanding the entire concept.However, the RCC reserves the right to call down Jesus from heaven into a little cookie. That's just about as bad.

Look and see, their teaching is that the mother of Christ, by an immaculate conception, was cut off from the sinful inheritance of the race, and that therefore, Christ as her son did not come in the same flesh as man. But because of Mary was incapable of sinning, they turn it around and make Mary the source of righteousness, and Christ was not really here to prove that we, as man, 'in the flesh', could overcome which was Satans challenge..

 

[shepherdsword]

Look and see, their teaching is that the mother of Christ, by an immaculate conception, was cut off from the sinful inheritance of the race, and that therefore, Christ as her son did not come in the same flesh as man. But because of Mary was incapable of sinning, they turn it around and make Mary the source of righteousness, and Christ was not really here to prove that we, as man, 'in the flesh', could overcome which was Satans challenge..

The sin nature isn't passed by the mother anyway,it comes from the father. This is why Jesus can be descended from David through Mary but not inherit the sin nature.

 

[Hobie]

The sin nature isn't passed by the mother anyway,it comes from the father. This is why Jesus can be descended from David through Mary but not inherit the sin nature.

Man, or Mankind which is the mother or father, but the church of Rome says Mary was essentially divine, look at what they hold..

Immaculate Conception​

“…that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin.”

God, by the grace and merits of His Son Jesus on the Cross, outside of time, preserved Mary by a singular grace at the moment of her own conception. He preserved her from all stain of the original sin of Adam and Eve. This began the reversal of the Fall of man. The early Church Fathers said, “The knot of Eve’s disobedience was untied by Mary’s obedience; what the virgin Eve bound through her unbelief, the Virgin Mary loosened by her faith,” and even more to the point: “death through Eve, life through Mary (Lumen Gentium, 56).”

Mary was tempted to sin just as any one of us are, but she was able to resist temptation and sin at every turn because of her heroic virtue and obedience to God in Faith. What a beautiful role model we have in our Blessed Mother. Not only was Mary the model of purity and holiness from the moment of her conception, she maintained this purity and increased in her union with God.

Assumption​

The Virgin Mary, “having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.”

The Dogma of the Assumption is intricately related to Mary’s special privilege of being completely without sin, her Immaculate Conception.

 

[AngelicArcher]

The Church of Rome denies Jesus came in the flesh.

OK.
The church of Rome says atheists will get into Heaven.

The church of Rome says newborns have to be baptized into the church.

And the church of Rome will meet and answer to God for every word.

That's justice.
God's justice.