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Not surprised you think exalting the Lord God is a joke.
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I don't know what a "nonce" is - buit I'm guessing you meant "Noun".
You're OUT-gunned here . . .
Once again - Jesus prayed fervently that HIDS Church remain as ONE - as He and the Father are ONE (John 17:20-23).LOL
Don’t require your reputation....Already concluded, tens of thousands are “Christ’s Church”, and the “catholic church” is excluded from that accounting.
Once again - Jesus prayed fervently that HIDS Church remain as ONE - as He and the Father are ONE (John 17:20-23).
The Catholic Church, on the other hand, is the Original Tree...
Christ’s Church WAS Established By Christ, as ONE Church, Called His Church. The Lords appointment of the First members of Christ’s Church WERE Jews.
Gentiles began joining in and soon Gentiles took over Jesus’ Church....
MAKING umpteen CHANGES to Christ’s Word, to Christ’ Doctrine, to What Christ’s Church was Called, on and on..................and the Jews Deflected.
Ummmm, it's not MY claim, Einstein.A ridiculous: and sad
arrogant claim, but not surprised.
No worry’s God is a FIXER of Corruption!
In other words - YOU simply don't believe in Jesus's promise that -
Matt. 16:18.
"... upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of hrll will NOT prevail ahainst it."
actually berlirvr ythat men could UNDO what He guaranteed they coiuld NOT.
Kenneth Samples...
Here is the full quote:
"Catholicism, on the other hand, is the largest body within Christendom, having almost a two‐thousand‐year history (it has historical continuity with apostolic, first century Christianity), and is the ecclesiastical tree from which Protestantism originally splintered."
I haven't sais ANY such thing.As Usual YOUR OTHER WORDS, trying to speak FOR ME, are a FAIL!
Christ’s Church He called his Possessive; “MY CHURCH” Built UPON
Jesus is the Christ, (the ROCK), the Son of the Living God...
It isn’t in peril.....
you yourself have repeatedly identified there are Tens of Thousands of “Christ’s Churches...” commonly called Non-catholic churches.
No - as usual, I was SPOT ON.As usual YOUR dribble trying to speak for me is a FAIL.
Nope.I’m not particularly interested in Philosophical authors such as Kenneth Samples, but did hear he contributed to author Elliot Miller’s book;
The Cult of the Virgin... care to share some quotes from that author?
And...as I said God is the FIXER of Corruption.
The LARGEST is not a highlight....Remember...?
Matt 22:
[14] For many are called, but few are chosen.
Since when does having statutes and/or pictures of martyrs and/or saints in church mean that Jesus is NOT the focus?
If you have pictures of your children/family/friends/pets on your desk at work, does that mean that your focus isn't on your job?
Better yet - speak not about that which you do NOT know.Sit not nor eat from the table of a harlot .
Many will hold to that which decays and leads to death . But as for the lambs we cling to Christ and learn our bibles well .Better yet - speak not about that which you do NOT know.
The principle is the same. You miss the point entirely. Having memoirs is normal to universal human experience, until Calvin came along. Calvinists make statues of Calvin, who banned all statues. Does that make sense?It doesn't. I'm not asking about focus on family on a desk.
Wrong. God commanded the Temple be decorated. There are examples of such images pleasing to God throughout the OT. 1 Kings7:25-28, 32-27, The Cherubim on the Ark Exodus 25:18-21, Ezekiel describing the Inner Temple 41:18 “ Every cherub had two faces.. a man’s face… a young lion’s face…they were carved on the house all around…” the temple of Solomon Kings 6:23 The two great Cerubs, and Cherubs all around, and the walls, the doors…!but this practice wasn't done in the former times , and later in Rome, it was.
No.Was it for proselytizing the Romans from paganism into Christianity?
Worship of statues is expressly forbidden. The ban on images is soley related to false worship, not images per se.The former world was loaded with statues of gods and goddesses and these were worshiped. .
The 'practice' of paintings and statues could not appear in churches in the first 3 centuries becauseI was just curious as to why they showed up in churches?
I haven't sais ANY such thing.
In fact - piuint me tpo the post where I said there were "tens of thousands of 'Christ's Churches'". You can't because you're LYING again.
I said there were tens of thousands os disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects.
No - as usual, I was SPOT ON.
said that Gentiles infiltrated Christ's Church and perverted it. Jesus said this could NEVER happen (Matt. 16:18),
Angry
and ignorant is NO way to go through life, son . . .
I'm content just showinbg you what Mr. Samples wrote about the Cathollic Church going ALL the way back to the Apostles - and being the Original Tree from which Protestantism splintered.
That''s just an historical fact - and I like history . . .
Had YOU stuck to the doctrines of Christ and the Apostles – YOU would be in His Church.Many will hold to that which decays and leads to death . But as for the lambs we cling to Christ and learn our bibles well .
Had you been in that bible you would have seen what angered GOD the absolute most .
Then you would have also seen that the RCC has done that very thing and all with her all inclusive false gospel
My advice , When pope francis speaks , close thine ears and when many protestant leaders do speak
and all are running to be as one , YOU RUN THE OTHER WAY . Lambs will gather with lambs WHO LOVE CHRIST above all
but what a lamb wont do is gather with those who have sold the original gospel out for sake of unity and fellowship .
In case you have not realized this yet , YOU do realize this is all about creating a mindset
that will have all religions to merge as one and do the bidding of a global wicked dark govt .
THEY being led to the spiritual slaughter and have no idea .
WE should have stuck to the doctrine of CHRIST and of those apostles . AND even though many claim they still do
NOPE their fruits and teachings and actions PROVE THEY HAVE ABANDONED THE PURE and HOLY PATH once delivered unto the
saints long ago . My advice stands . GET IN that bible , while there is still time to do so .
Learn THAT JESUS and learn THOSE apostels well . THEN ye shall clearly that something has went big time wrong IN CHRISTENDOM .
HURRY , do not look back . FLEE it and i will also be praying for you and for others .
Had YOU stuck to the doctrines of Christ and the Apostles – YOU would be in His Church.
Unfortunately, you have decided to self-separate from Christ via His Body – the Church.
Good luck with that as you continue to misinterpret your Bible by wrongly thinking it is your “SOLE” autthority . . .
The Church’s GOD-given Authority –
Matt 16:18-19
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Matt. 18:18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
John 16:12-15
“I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to YOU the things that are coming.
He will glorify me, because he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Everything that the Father has is MINE; for this reason I told you that he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."
Lambs wont sit under a harlot. Lambs heed the call , COME OUT from amongst her , lest ye partake of her sins and of her plagues .Had YOU stuck to the doctrines of Christ and the Apostles – YOU would be in His Church.
Unfortunately, you have decided to self-separate from Christ via His Body – the Church.
Good luck with that as you continue to misinterpret your Bible by wrongly thinking it is your “SOLE” autthority . . .
The Church’s GOD-given Authority –
Matt 16:18-19
I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven; and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Matt. 18:18
Amen, I say to you, WHATEVER YOU BIND on earth shall be bound in heaven, and WHATEVER YOU LOOSE on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
John 16:12-15
“I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to YOU the things that are coming.
He will glorify me, because he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Everything that the Father has is MINE; for this reason I told you that he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."
Lambs wont sit under a harlot. Lambs heed the call , COME OUT from amongst her , lest ye partake of her sins and of her plagues .
I completely refuse that church . I speak only to help you , for i desire good for you and life for you .
Should have held to the orginal doctrine of Christ and of those apostles .
JESUS himself gives a good and dire warning about not following those who deck themselves up in fancy clothing
Yet for centuries that church has had popes and men have had to kneel and kiss thier rings .
PETER would not allow men to kneel before him . But people love religoin , they love man made traditions and the precepts of men .
There is an allure by the flesh of man that has them to gather under that which is not true .
But praise GOD , the lambs have no such desire to sit under strangers , but rather they heed and follow only the voice
of the great shepard Jesus Christ . And men who teach truth they will heed and gather with
but the voice of strangers who commit fornication and sit under a harlot , they simply wont follow nor heed .
But what these will do , is out of great love warn all COME YE OUT FROM AMONGST HER .
But exalting a pope and their church as the only church is what they find NECESSARY .Not surprised you think exalting the Lord God is a joke.![]()
HOW THE CATACOMBS BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUE CATHOLIC FAITH TODAY
A Catechism of the Catholic Church, by Robert J. Fox. Copyright© Franciscan Herald Press, pgs. 20, 21
First Known Image of Mary, In Catacombs of Priscilla, 170 A.D.
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detailed analysis
See also
Rome’s Catacombs witness to the Catholic faith of the early Church
Images and Words- the Catholic use of Statues and Paintings
Well...there's no mention of laptops and computers in Scripture...or cars...or utensils for eating...or toilet paper...or microwaves...or sneakers...or parka's...or cell phones...or television and radio...the list goes on.The Catholic "church" is just one of many denominations, yet it sells itself as the one true church. Where is this declaration found in Scripture? And please don't cite the "on this rock I will build my church", as shortly thereafter Jesus said in Mark 8:33, "But after turning and looking at his disciples, he rebuked Peter and said, “Get behind me, Satan. You are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but on man’s.” There is no pope in Scripture, no bishops or cardinals either.
The massive building in Jerusalem -- the temple -- was destroyed and the priestly class performing all kinds of rituals was made obsolete, yet the Catholic church, in following many OT practices, has made a travesty of the simplicity and truth found in Christ.
You should pay attention to your last two quotes, as they contain truth that apparently has escaped your thinking.
Sola scriptura.