The Biblical Basis for Catholic Distinctives

[amigo de christo]

Now , with that being said , ITS high time to praise and thank the glorious LORD . HE who has set the captives free .
And HE who is our guide , the truth , the way and the life . AND the ONLY name whereby one may be saved .
I leave us with JESUS words , HE who believes and is baptized shall be saved , he who believes not is condmened arleady
for HE has not believed the very testimony that GOD has given of His Son .
And John , HE who has the SON has life but HE who has not the SON has not life .
Be advised the all inclusive religion does not approve of that message . But then i dont follow nor heed them nor sit at their table
of compromise . I suggest no others do either . Let us rather PROLESYTIZE the glorious gospel , make sure
to let all who breathes that they must repent and beleive IN CHRIST to be saved . Lambs approve of this message .

 

[BreadOfLife]

The allow me to say it again . Get in those bibles and learn that Jesus . For many are decieving many . Go and learn that JESUS
in the bible and the things the apostels also wrote . For many men have and do decieve many .
I shall point to the biblical Christ , you point to the CC . On the last day many are truly going to wish
they had simply learned the biblical Christ well , not what men in power taught .
So my advice remains the same . Learn that bible , learn that JESUS well and learn what the true apostels taught .
And beware of those who love to deck themselves up with fancy large clothes and to be seen of men and have men
to bow before them and kiss their rings . Yea , i say they have long desired the worship of men and have long
constructed doctrine which has men to trust in them . But i have come to point us back to the original doctrine
to the JESUS of the BIBLE , and that sound doctrine . Beware of the protestant realm as well , many false ones fleecing them flock
all over the place . As for me , i wont be sitting at their table of unity . I shall pray for them that perhaps repentance can be given .
But i will expose the falsehoods they teach and warn all to stay far from their doctrines . POINT TO JESUS , i say and let us learn
those bibles well .

Catholics believe in the "Biblical" Christ. In fact - we taught the WORLD about the "Biblical" Christ.
Unfortunately - YOU actually believe that Chrust is just a "Biblical" character.

As Catholics - we're not foolish enough to pretend that th Church came out of the Bible.
We know, as the evidence shows - that the Bible, as a while, came outof christ's Church.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The united protestant and RCC shall not pry the love of truth , of Christ , of bible doctrine from my heart .
At most the only thing they can do is pry the bible from my hand , From my cold dead fingers .
Till my last breath or JESUS come , its the bible as the book for me . All men will be tested against that glorious truth .

WRONG.
All men WILL be tested by His glorious truth - but it is NOT all contained in the Bible.

Show me where the Bible lists the Books that belong IN the Bible. It's NOT there., my confused friend. That is part of HIS truth - but it was declared by the guardian of His truth, which is His Church (Eph. 1:22-23, 1 Tim. 3:15, 2 Tim. 1:14).

 

[amigo de christo]

Catholics believe in the "Biblical" Christ. In fact - we taught the WORLD about the "Biblical" Christ.
Unfortunately - YOU actually believe that Chrust is just a "Biblical" character.

As Catholics - we're not foolish enough to pretend that th Church came out of the Bible.
We know, as the evidence shows - that the Bible, as a while, came outof christ's Church.

Catholics believe what the popes and vaticans say is doctrine . Just like any other denomination
the leaders should have been tested . I see much dire and grave doctrines in the catholic church
but i see it within the protestant realm . As for the bible , GOD is in control . The old test was written long before
there even were christains , and the true apostels made sure to keep those inspired letters .
And as you already know , just cause a church can hold up the bible , DONT Mean they follow Christ , nor GOD .
Most use the bible as a means to recreate their own self taught doctrine . They twist it to fit their teachings .
BELIEVE ME the CC is not exempt from that . THEY been doing it since at least the times of Constantine . If not sooner .
Error begets error . I am afraid this is what happened . BUT GOD allowed the true scrips to remain untainted .
Try and remember that even the priests and high priests within the jewish realm , HAD torah
and their scribes too recopied it beautifully , YET with many of them GOD was not pleased
cause they , LIKE ROME brought a lot of other stuff and pagan worship into the temple and seduced the people .
THE RCC is no different . IT DID the same . ITS scribes did wonderfully copy the glorious words of truth
but that dont mean GOD was well pleased with their popes and dark doctrine . Just like with most of protestantism
SURE they can make claim to the bible . BUT they dont heed it , they only pick and choose . But go ye and learn what that means .
And they say what popes before them have said , OH you silly peasants you cant learn the bible for yourselves
you need our scholars to teach you . ITS the same line throughout all ages . Deceptoin comes often from WITHIN
and its decievers can APPEAR as men of righteousness . BUT they aint . YOU need to truly return to the beauty
of the bible . Learn that JESUS well , learn what the apostels wrote well , learn all sound doctrine , by which one shall grow wise
through faith in Christ .

 

[amigo de christo]

WRONG.
All men WILL be tested by His glorious truth - but it is NOT all contained in the Bible.

Show me where the Bible lists the Books that belong IN the Bible. It's NOT there., my confused friend. That is part of HIS truth - but it was declared by the guardian of His truth, which is His Church (Eph. 1:22-23, 1 Tim. 3:15, 2 Tim. 1:14).

Yes GOD can still speak to us with revelation . BUT when that revelation contradicts what is already written in the bible
THEN KNOW YE its NOT coming from GOD , but from men , seducers .
AKA , whatever is revealed today , MUST not contradict what is already written in that bible .
IF it does , ITS FALSE . ITS NOT thus sayeth the protestant leader , or the pope or etc
ITS THUS sayeth the LORD . And if what one teaches dont agree with and contradicts the bible , MY ADVICE IS RUN from those .
Thus , allow me some parting words . COME YE OUT from amongst them , learn the biblical Christ well
and all sound doctrine in the bible . And beware , we got us many wolves all over the place
and they fleecing the flocks right into a lie . Beware of it .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Catholics believe what the popes and vaticans say is doctrine . Just like any other denomination
the leaders should have been tested . I see much dire and grave doctrines in the catholic church
but i see it within the protestant realm . As for the bible , GOD is in control . The old test was written long before
there even were christains , and the true apostels made sure to keep those inspired letters .
And as you already know , just cause a church can hold up the bible , DONT Mean they follow Christ , nor GOD .
Most use the bible as a means to recreate their own self taught doctrine . They twist it to fit their teachings .
BELIEVE ME the CC is not exempt from that . THEY been doing it since at least the times of Constantine . If not sooner .
Error begets error . I am afraid this is what happened . BUT GOD allowed the true scrips to remain untainted .
Try and remember that even the priests and high priests within the jewish realm , HAD torah
and their scribes too recopied it beautifully , YET with many of them GOD was not pleased
cause they , LIKE ROME brought a lot of other stuff and pagan worship into the temple and seduced the people .
THE RCC is no different . IT DID the same . ITS scribes did wonderfully copy the glorious words of truth
but that dont mean GOD was well pleased with their popes and dark doctrine . Just like with most of protestantism
SURE they can make claim to the bible . BUT they dont heed it , they only pick and choose . But go ye and learn what that means .
And they say what popes before them have said , OH you silly peasants you cant learn the bible for yourselves
you need our scholars to teach you . ITS the same line throughout all ages . Deceptoin comes often from WITHIN
and its decievers can APPEAR as men of righteousness . BUT they aint . YOU need to truly return to the beauty
of the bible . Learn that JESUS well , learn what the apostels wrote well , learn all sound doctrine , by which one shall grow wise
through faith in Christ .

What the Popes and Vaticans say??
And what's a "dire and grave" doctrine?
And why do you keep attacking Protestants alongside Catholics - why YOU yourself are Protestant?

Yout problem - a;though there are MANY - is that you believe in a perverted version of revisionist hisatory and are completely unschooled in the things you are trying to debate. You know little to nothing about the Catholic Church, history or Scripture as it applies to the Church.
In short - you brought a pea-shooter to a gunfight.

It's almost like tsalking to a wall - but one that repeates the unbiblical mantra: "Grab a Bible abd learn Jesus for yourself" . . .
Good luck woith that.

I'll stick with the Church that He left us with (Matt. 16:18) - of which HE is the Head (Col. 1:18).

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes GOD can still speak to us with revelation . BUT when that revelation contradicts what is already written in the bible
THEN KNOW YE its NOT coming from GOD , but from men , seducers .
AKA , whatever is revealed today , MUST not contradict what is already written in that bible .
IF it does , ITS FALSE . ITS NOT thus sayeth the protestant leader , or the pope or etc
ITS THUS sayeth the LORD . And if what one teaches dont agree with and contradicts the bible , MY ADVICE IS RUN from those .
Thus , allow me some parting words . COME YE OUT from amongst them , learn the biblical Christ well
and all sound doctrine in the bible . And beware , we got us many wolves all over the place
and they fleecing the flocks right into a lie . Beware of it .

Sooooo, baslically, you couldn't answer yet ANOTHER question.

I asked you to show me where the Bible lists the Books that belong IN the Bible - and you failed.
Good job . . ..

 

[Berserk]

Notice how every time Catholics show them relevant portions of God's Word, these evangelicals respond with fundamentalist talking points that bypass God's Word? So let's keep the key points in Matthew 16:16-19 as simple as possible for them.
(1) Why does Jesus tell Peter his name: "You are Peter?" After all, Peter knows who he is.
(2) The simple answer is that Jesus has in mind the meaning of "Peter" (Aramaic: "Cephas") and uses this to set up His follow-up comment: "And on this rock I will build my church." The antecedent of "this" is obviously the meaning of Peter's name, "rock." That's why these 2 sentences are placed sequentially.
(3) So what does Jesus mean by saying He will build His church on Peter, the Rock? Obviously that Peter's ministry and authority will be the foundation of the Church. But, you say, doesn't Paul say that Christ is the foundation (1 Cor. 3:11)? Yes, Paul does and in a sense Christ is the foundation. But we are talking about what Jesus (not Paul) says and we must let Jesus speak for Himself.
(4) But, you say, Peter could never be the foundational "rock" in such a lofty sense, could he? Well, that's up to Jesus, isn't it? And Jesus declares that Peter's role as foundational rock will be so lofty the Peter will be given "the keys to the kingdom of heaven," and that means the right to determine who does and does not enter the kingdom.
(5) But, you say, only God has the authority to forgiven sins; so Jesus must mean that Peter will know the conditions of divine forgiveness, right?
Nope! Jesus tells Peter, "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Jesus' sentence implies that Peter's verdict precedes and is ratified by God's verdict! To see this consider the fact that the text does not say what you'd expect: "whatever is bound in heaven, you will bind on earth, and whatever is loosed in heaven, you will loose on earth." No, Jesus says just the opposite! Read it!
(6) Jesus clarifies this point in John 20:23: "Receive the Holy Spirit. If YOU forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them, and if YOU retain the sins of any, they are retained." Thus, Jesus clearly shoots down the fundamentalist claim that only God can forgive sins. But how can this be? Well, Jesus gives the answer, "Receive the Holy Spirit." In other words, Christian leaders can forgive sins only if they possess the Holy Spirit, so that their discernment will echo God's discernment.
(7) But direct forgiveness of specific sins by apostles first requires confession and this confession of sins must be directed to God, right? Nope!" The confession must be made "to each other" (James 5:16--hence precedemt for the priestly role. Whether the word for sin is "harmaria" or the bogus "paraptoma," both words refer to sins against God (see e. g. Romans 5:15, 17f.)

 

[Berserk]

As expected, fundamentalists here feel the need to get this thread off track because they have no answer to Matthew 16:19, John 20:23, and James 5:16 as a biblical basis for the Catholic practice of confession and priestly absolution. So it seems time to move on to the OP's next topic, "praying to saints." Fundamentalists like to falsely defame this practice by painting it as an end-run around Jesus' role as mediator, and so, they ignore the fact that Catholics are merely asking specific saints to pray for them. Fundamentalists forget that even deceased saints remain members of the Body of Christ who once lived and still live prayerful lives.

(3) PRAYING TO SAINTS
Before I make the biblical case for praying to saints, I invite you to ponder the thrilling possibilities raised by these 4 questions:
(1) Does God allow our deceased loved ones to monitor our progress here on earth?
(2) If so, do they still pray for us as they did during their earthly existence?
(3) If Christ's role as our heavenly Intercessor and Advocate does not eliminate our need to pray for each other, why would it eliminate the need to seek prayer support from deceased saints?
(4) Is it possible that great saints now in Christ's presence have a deep faith to effectively petition God on our behalf?

 

[Berserk]

I doubt than any fundamentalist here have experienced or even heard of someone they know being healed of congestive heart failure through prayer. Well, I'm acquainted with a Catholic who attracted such a miracle through a combination of embracing Catholic reverence for holy relics (e. g. bones of the saints) and going to the grave of an Italian saint to ask him to petition God to heal his wife of congestive heart failure and, as a result, his wife was gloriously healed!

Few fundamentalists are aware of this biblical text that offers precedent for God's use of holy relics:
"As soon as the (dead) man's body touched the bones of Elisha, he came to life and stood on his feet (2 Kings 13:21)."

Paul expresses a top priority thus:
"I will come to you soon, if the Lord wills, and I will find out not the [faith] talk of these arrogant people, but their power. For the kingdom of God depends not on [faith] talk, but on power (1 Cor. 4:19-20)."
It seems that fundamentalists here no nothing of the astounding power achieved by Catholic prayers to the saints. Well, as Jesus also says, "By their fruits you shall know them."

 

[amigo de christo]

What the Popes and Vaticans say??
And what's a "dire and grave" doctrine?
And why do you keep attacking Protestants alongside Catholics - why YOU yourself are Protestant?

Yout problem - a;though there are MANY - is that you believe in a perverted version of revisionist hisatory and are completely unschooled in the things you are trying to debate. You know little to nothing about the Catholic Church, history or Scripture as it applies to the Church.
In short - you brought a pea-shooter to a gunfight.

It's almost like tsalking to a wall - but one that repeates the unbiblical mantra: "Grab a Bible abd learn Jesus for yourself" . . .
Good luck woith that.

I'll stick with the Church that He left us with (Matt. 16:18) - of which HE is the Head (Col. 1:18).

Lets rephrase the pea shooter to a gun fight saying .
You come in the name of a mighty and ever growing religion , with massive amounts of highly intellectual carnal wisdom ,
I simply come in the glorious name of Christ holding onto one book , the bible , by which i test all mens doctrines .
The mighty giant of the all inclusive religoin verses a small child who simply follows Christ . It didnt bode well for the giant
nor on the day of Christ will it bode well at all for those who ran to the massive system of this all inclusive Rome led religoin .
Sure they got the numbers on earth , and those numbers grow ever daily and true lambs are a remnant indeed .
But true lambs have something men of this world do not , THE ONE WHO CREATED the world and all things therein and all things
seen or unseen . I am sticking to the simplicty which is in Christ , in that bible and i suggest every man woman or child
who reads this , DO the same thing and fast .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Lets rephrase the pea shooter to a gun fight saying .
You come in the name of a mighty and ever growing religion , with massive amounts of highly intellectual carnal wisdom ,
I simply come in the glorious name of Christ holding onto one book , the bible , by which i test all mens doctrines .
The mighty giant of the all inclusive religoin verses a small child who simply follows Christ . It didnt bode well for the giant
nor on the day of Christ will it bode well at all for those who ran to the massive system of this all inclusive Rome led religoin .
Sure they got the numbers on earth , and those numbers grow ever daily and true lambs are a remnant indeed .
But true lambs have something men of this world do not , THE ONE WHO CREATED the world and all things therein and all things
seen or unseen . I am sticking to the simplicty which is in Christ , in that bible and i suggest every man woman or child
who reads this , DO the same thing and fast .

Again - your peoblem is that you claim to come in the name of Christ preching the Word of God - yet what YOU are pproclaiming was NEVER taught by Jesus and is found NOWHER within the pages of the Biblie, which YOU claijm to be our "SOLE" Authority.

The Bible is AN Authritative source - not the ONLY Authritative source.
If you ever bothered to open that Bible - you would see the following, regarding another Authoritative source - His CHURCH:
- The CHURCH is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).

- Jesus said that HE is the Light of the World (John 8:12).
Jesus also said that His CHURCH is the Light of the world (Matt. 5:14).

- Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6).

- The CHURCH is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).

- Jesus promised His CHURCH That the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).

- Jesus told the leaders of His CHURCH that WHATEVER they bound or loosed on earth would ALSO be bound and loosed in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 20:21-23).

- The CHURCH is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).

- Jesus identifies His very SELF with His CHURCH (Acts 9:4-5).

- Jesus gave His CHURCH Supreme earthly Authority, that WHATEVER His CHURCH declared on earth will also be declared in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18).

- Jesus said about his Church: “Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME" (Luke 10:16).

Look - you seem like a nice guy loves God - unfortunately, you have been horrible misinformed, causing you to preach the ANTI-Biblical nonsense that you do.
Don't just "preach" that the Bible is the Word of God - READ it and try to understand what it is saying.

 

[Berserk]

Since Fundamentalists have no answer to my long-posted biblical grounds for Catholic praying to saints, let's move on to the healing power associated with Marian streams, which has biblical precedent in Elisha' effective command to Naaman, ording him to immerise himself 7 times in the Jordan River. Miracles from Mary's healing spring at Lourdes are medically verified. But my friend Dick experienced a healing miracle from the Marian spring at the House of the Virgin Mary atop a little mountain just outside Ephesus. I heard Dick testify shortly after I arrived to be the new pastor at a UMC church.
Dick had scheduled a Footsteps of Paul tour, but torn tendons in his knee in which he also had bad arthritis. He decide to risk the tour anyway. When a foreign lady saw him limping badly in pain at this sacred house, she urged him to bottle water from Mary's stream to gain healing. Dick thought this was nonsense, but he bottled the water just to be polite. When he returned to the hotel, he complained of his pain to his wife Mary Ann, who urged him to pour the water on his knee. Dick protested, "Why? It's just water; it won't help!" Mary Ann replied, "What do you have to lose? Just do it!" So Dick complied just to get her off his back. He felt better, but attributed this to a placebo effect.

As soon as he returned home, he entered a hospital for knee surgery from the top local orthopeddic surgeon. When Dick came out of the anesthetic, his surgeon stood at the head of his bed, a little pale. He nervously said, "I don't understand you. We did MRIs and other tests and saw the damage, but when we cut you open, your knee was totally healed and even your arthritis was gone!" He may have feared a malpractice lawsuit. What strikes me about Dick's testimony is this: neither he nor his wife believed in the healing power of this spring.

btw, I later the same tour and climbed the steps to Mary's house. When I got there, the young woman behind me was so overcome by awe and wonder at God's presence there that she fell prostrate. I experienced more awe there than any of the holy sites in Israel which I also toured. Our Muslim guide even told us that this spring has been effectively used to heal.

 

[Enoch111]

Since Fundamentalists have no answer to my long-posted biblical grounds for Catholic praying to saints...

Since the Bible refutes praying to anyone but God, why waste time on discussing this false practice? Indeed, why should anyone give any credence to this thread, since you have not joined the church you so admire?

 

[amigo de christo]

Since the Bible refutes praying to anyone but God, why waste time on discussing this false practice? Indeed, why should anyone give any credence to this thread, since you have not joined the church you so admire?

Stand firm on bible doctrine my friend . We can sure learn a lot about what even the jews did that displeased God .
I see all over the torah examples of what angered GOD the most . When they tried blending pagan services and pratices
into and along with the things of God . beware its the same identical thing more and more of even christendom has done
and is fast growing in as well . Let us stick to the pattern JESUS set and all biblical sound doctrine as good reminders
of what to do and what NOT to do . Follow Christ , no matter the cost of doing so .

 

[amigo de christo]

Since the Bible refutes praying to anyone but God, why waste time on discussing this false practice? Indeed, why should anyone give any credence to this thread, since you have not joined the church you so admire?

The biblical fundamental that clings to Christ , to the bible and wont change to adapt to the world , IS the most hated
creature , even within Christendoms sold out churches . Stand on the truth of that bible my friend , DO SO unto even death .
Lambs dont change , add or delete to the Words of GOD . We stand on and LOVE HIS INSPIRED TRUTH . DO SO TO THE END .
Many are fast given to change to adapt and fit in to society .
I got news , THAT wont bode well at all , specially on the last day .
Stick to bible doctrine , no matter how hated you are for doing so my friend . WE have our HOPE , ITS JESUS
and lambs love TRUTH .

 

[covenantee]

Again - your peoblem is that you claim to come in the name of Christ preching the Word of God - yet what YOU are pproclaiming was NEVER taught by Jesus and is found NOWHER within the pages of the Biblie, which YOU claijm to be our "SOLE" Authority.

The Bible is AN Authritative source - not the ONLY Authritative source.
If you ever bothered to open that Bible - you would see the following, regarding another Authoritative source - His CHURCH:
- The CHURCH is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).

- Jesus said that HE is the Light of the World (John 8:12).
Jesus also said that His CHURCH is the Light of the world (Matt. 5:14).

- Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6).

- The CHURCH is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).

- Jesus promised His CHURCH That the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).

- Jesus told the leaders of His CHURCH that WHATEVER they bound or loosed on earth would ALSO be bound and loosed in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 20:21-23).

- The CHURCH is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).

- Jesus identifies His very SELF with His CHURCH (Acts 9:4-5).

- Jesus gave His CHURCH Supreme earthly Authority, that WHATEVER His CHURCH declared on earth will also be declared in Heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18).

- Jesus said about his Church: “Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME" (Luke 10:16).

Look - you seem like a nice guy loves God - unfortunately, you have been horrible misinformed, causing you to preach the ANTI-Biblical nonsense that you do.
Don't just "preach" that the Bible is the Word of God - READ it and try to understand what it is saying.

According to Robert Bellarmine:

“All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” – Robert Bellarmine, On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17

Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Are all of the same names applied to Christ in Isaiah 9:6, also applied to the Pope?

 

[BreadOfLife]

According to Robert Bellarmine:

“All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope.” – Robert Bellarmine, On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17

Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Are all of the same names applied to Christ in Isaiah 9:6, also applied to the Pope?

This is a common anti-Catholic whopper - based in the fact that the quote from Bellermine has been taken OUT of its proper context.
When you read On the Authority of the Councils by Robert Bellermine - THIS is what he actually saus:
"This is almost de fide, and is proved first of all from the two preceding points: for if the Pope is the head of the universal Church, even when it is gathered together at one time, and if the universal Church even gathered together at one time has no power by reason of its totality; [1] it follows that the Pope is over the Council, and over the Church, not the other way around. It is proved by the second reason, based in Scripture: for all the names, ascribed to Christ in Scripture, from which it is determined that he is over the Church—those same names are ascribed to the Pontiff. [2] And first, Christ is the paterfamilias [male head of the household] in his own house, which is the Church. The Pope is the highest steward in the same house, that is, the household head in Christ’s place: Luke 12: 'Who is the faithful and prudent dispenser, whom the Lord has set over his household, etc.'"

CHRIST is those title.
The Pope is merely the STEWARD of what those titles represent.

 

[Enoch111]

s expected, fundamentalists here feel the need to get this thread off track because they have no answer to Matthew 16:19, John 20:23, and James 5:16 as a biblical basis for the Catholic practice of confession and priestly absolution.

You know as well as I do that this is total hogwash. The misapplication of Scripture does not make anything right.

 

[Enoch111]

The Pope is merely the STEWARD of what those titles represent.

And of course being a blatant Globalist/Communist/Anarchist is no barrier to being a "steward".

The pope imposed his own ILLEGAL vaccine mandate within the Vatican. That is really good stewardship.
Vatican issues vaccine mandate for all employees
Personnel without a valid Green Pass or proof of recovery “will not be able to access the workplace and must be considered unjustly absent, with the consequent suspension of salary for the duration of the absence,” the decree said.
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2021/12/vatican-issues-vaccine-mandate-for-all-employees

Talk about COVID tyranny! Pope Francis is a leading tyrant, who also "cancelled" the Latin Mass tyrannically and illegally:"This week’s news program is devoted exclusively to a deep analysis of Pope Francis’ illegal attempt to quarantine and cancel the 2,000-year-old Traditional Latin Mass in Traditionis Custodes, his new Apostolic Letter (July 16, 2021).
BREAKING: Francis Tries to Cancel the Traditional Latin Mass - Catholic Family News

So all this pious talk about the pope being a steward is nothing but HOT AIR. For which BOL is well known.