The Bible is not “Gods Word.” It's simply "The Bible."

[Behold]

I think you are going the right direction with this. Jesus is undoubtedly the Word made flesh. But Jesus also said that He only does and says what He sees and hears the Father do. (check me on this!)

Ok... np

Jesus said.. "if you've seen ME... You've seen the Father"

Jesus said.. "I and my Father are ONE">

SO the Father speaks the Words to Jesus and Jesus became flesh. But what happens to God's words after He speaks them? Do His words dissipate and go away not to be heard anymore? I don't think so!

"they word of God never returns void" <> "it will accomplish what its sent out to do".

He said His word will not come back to Him ineffectual. Now God wanted His words to manifest in the natural realm so that man can use them for a reference and for learning. WHen we look up in scripture every time the word "word" is used, we find two translations! Logos, which is the written word of God, and Rhema which is the spoken word of God. So there is a flowing of the words of God beyond the Logos scripture!

The more of God's word you have in you, the more of God's revelation you have that He causes to become "The Knowledge of God".

Getting ALL of that "down pat"..., as Paul's Doctrine, is how you : "work out your Salvation"..

The bible is a Circular Spiritual Puzzle.
Its not a linear teaching to be understood as if its a dictionary.
The Bible is "spiritually Discerned" and "they who are spiritual, discern all things"...

The reason God says to "study to show yourself approved unto God" is because when you study, you become familiar with the situation, and you become perfected by the studying... as you are practicing it.
Its like learning to play Guitar......>You have to learn the chords, to learn how to use them as a " chord family".

And the bible........God wrote it so that its a,...... "connect the spiritual doctrinal dots, by discernment"...

And what God does, is.. He shows you some Light.....and you have this..= ."OH I SEE THAT" moment.. .and that is one verse, one DOT somewhere in the NT that God has caused to become that "Rhema"..
So, as you study over time... and meditate on that one Dot.....that is now Rhema to you.....God will show you another one... somewhere else that is exactly another part that fits into the spiritual puzzle , and now you have more revelation..
And the NT does this for you, and TO YOU..... so, the more you study it.. is the more God helps you to discern it., and that means that you begin SEE THE SPIRITUAL, that is in the verses, vs, just reading the verse.


An example... Lets say you are a non-saved Catholic.. and they read..... "Noah and his family were SAVED BY WATER"..

So, a "cult of mary"" person, is taught that they are "born again BY WATER".. so, for them, for this Cult.. the WATER is everything.. along with Mary and Church fathers".
That is their "big 3".
So, they read it like this..... "Noah was saved by water,................ just like they tell us we are also".

Now, when a CHRISTIAN reads this.. .. they DISCERN......>"Had Noah and family gotten out of that ARK, then Noah and Family would have DROWNED in that Water, along with every other living breathing creature.

So, the Christian Discerns that the ARK... is our CROSS of Christ... = Noah Flood is damnation, and the ARK is His Cross.. and our way out of HELL..(eternal damnation), = is THE Cross of Christ....as that is our Noah's ARK.

See what God did for the Believer ??????, that He can't do for the Catholic unbeliever, because all they can do is READ IT.

A Catholic will argue till they bleed from their ears, that "WATER SAVED NOAH, because WATER SAVES US"....

A.) So, What is that?
That is God opening the verse inside your BORN AGAIN spirit.......and that is what a good teacher can do for you.

When you've found a good teacher, then , first of all, they will be "all about Paul"... obsessed... and they will be "all about the Cross of Christ"....obsessed.
ALWAYS, as those are the 2 Foundations.
False teachers are the opposite... as for them its "Paul who".. "the Cross what"..... and yet if they know you are looking for it, they will FAKE IT., but they can't really, but they will try....
So then, when you read what an anointed teachers writes.. you find that inside you, something POPS... becomes enlightened...and that is your discernment and God's Spirit, connecting with the Teachers Teaching., as a revelation for you... as spiritual enlightenment.
Its very supernatural.....hard to explain.. but that is the gist of it.

This is where the Logos (word of God) reads you when you read the Logos and cuts you deep into your heart!

And most of the time, when God corrects us... He corrects us with the Scriptures.
The Scriptures will reach inside you and shake you up, when you are really following Jesus., and sometimes you will cry about it because its YOU who is being revealed... and that can hurt... but its a good for us. It makes us more like Jesus, everytime it happens.

A lot of false teachers, who have a Martyr Complex issue, want to say.>>"well, God is going to get you.. because you've been bad".

Well, first of all, if you've been bad, you know it inside already, .........and so, you are already being corrected by your conscience, and then, you'll read the bible or hear a sermon and you know its talking to you..........
I had someone freak out 2 days ago because he felt i was spotlighting him, when i was just talking about people who watch dirty programs on NETFLIX... so... that explains that...
You dont need more then that most of the time.... Just the word of God, keeping you clean....., as that is going to do it, most of the time...........that is all the correction needed.

That written book is different than any other book that was ever written by man. God said those things. To, you! And me! So by no means is that book just a book. That's a deception that people fall for and then doubt grows in them.

The Bible is ALIVE.
It talks to you. It makes you happy, or it can make you CORRECTED.

Ive seen a Holy Bible change an entire room full of unbelievers, .in seconds... and many times,.. .and not just in church.

When i was first called to be an Evangelist-Teacher..........was many years ago, and i was taking seminary and working a difficult job.
And i would take my lunch and my NT to my job....((at that time, I was working as a specialized type of Industrial Draftsman.))
So, i would study my NT at work, on break, and during Lunch.. .and the very first day on this job, i went into the small cafeteria.. about 70 people, and the room was full.........everyone sitting on benches.............And i sat down, opened my cooler,.. took out my lunch, and my NT.
As as soon as i opened it.. the room changed.........I could FEEL IT... All of a sudden something happened because that Bible opened, and they didnt all look at me......it was just the Bible doing that........causing a change in the AIR, in the SPIRIT, in that room.
WOOOOOOSHHHHHH ......!!
And i worked there for 15 months, and it happened every time.....and not just on this Job.
God gave me a strong convert while i was there, and i discipled Him.. trained Him... , and helped some others as well.

This reminds me of another fact about the Holy Spirit.

Someone said........."Well, i just got saved, and all my friends are horrible sinners........and so, i know i need to get away from them..
And a wise Christian said........."Just talk about Jesus and how much you love Him, and they wont hang around very long".... "You wont have to get rid of them...they'll get rid of you"...

 

[MA2444]

Jesus said.. "if you've seen ME... You've seen the Father"

Jesus said.. "I and my Father are ONE">

I was thinking that as I wrote it!

"they word of God never returns void" <> "it will accomplish what its sent out to do".

The written Logos is not finished yet with what it was sent out to do.

The more of God's word you have in you, the more of God's revelation you have that He causes to become "The Knowledge of God".

Getting ALL of that "down pat"..., as Paul's Doctrine, is how you : "work out your Salvation"..

That's the reason I decided to read the bible cover to cover. That and what it says about the Holy Spirit will call all to remembrance for us all things, so I figured we are the data entry clerks. How can He he bring it to our remembrance something we've never read?!

The bible is a Circular Spiritual Puzzle.
Its not a linear teaching to be understood as if its a dictionary.
The Bible is "spiritually Discerned" and "they who are spiritual, discern all things"...

I try to get that idea to the post tribbers and they just dont get it. What's the verse that says pre trib? and it isnt there, but it is.

When you've found a good teacher, then , first of all, they will be "all about Paul"... obsessed... and they will be "all about the Cross of Christ"....obsessed.
ALWAYS, as those are the 2 Foundations.
False teachers are the opposite... as for them its "Paul who".. "the Cross what"..... and yet if they know you are looking for it, they will FAKE IT., but they can't really, but they will try....
So then, when you read what an anointed teachers writes.. you find that inside you, something POPS... becomes enlightened...and that is your discernment and God's Spirit, connecting with the Teachers Teaching., as a revelation for you... as spiritual enlightenment.
Its very supernatural.....hard to explain.. but that is the gist of it.

Amen Brother.

When i was first called to be an Evangelist-Teacher..........was many years ago, and i was taking seminary and working a difficult job.
And i would take my lunch and my NT to my job....((at that time, I was working as a specialized type of Industrial Draftsman.))
So, i would study my NT at work, on break, and during Lunch.. .and the very first day on this job, i went into the small cafeteria.. about 70 people, and the room was full.........everyone sitting on benches.............And i sat down, opened my cooler,.. took out my lunch, and my NT.
As as soon as i opened it.. the room changed.........I could FEEL IT... All of a sudden something happened because that Bible opened, and they didnt all look at me......it was just the Bible doing that........causing a change in the AIR, in the SPIRIT, in that room.
WOOOOOOSHHHHHH ......!!

One time I had a question and so I prayed about it, and got no answer. So I prayed about it again the next day, no answer. SO I prayed again the next day, no answer! This went on for two weeks with no answers and I was about to give it p and go onto something else, lol. Then one morning I grabbed my bible and flipped it open, yeah, let's read some more, it's been awhile. And I looked down and my eyes came right to the verse that answered the question that I had been asking for two weeks about and got no answer!

Now that was a Rhema. I also learned that, hey maybe I should read this more often! SO I started reading it more.

 

[Behold]

The written Logos is not finished yet with what it was sent out to do.

Paul teaches that we are to leave Hebrews 6:1, as that is "baby Christian"...... who is trying to stay saved by "confessing sin",

So, that is usually the lifespan of a Christian, as they never get past those baby steps.

Ronald Nolette was telling me that his Christianity is ..."sin, confess, repeat"... and im sure he is telling the truth.

What usually happens, if that they end up reading Hebrews, which is a bear trap......it is not for the novice Christian.
That one book in the bible, will put a person in a "mental health facility", in many cases because of Hebrews Chapter 6 & 10.
The Devil, leads Christians away from Paul, and straight to Matthew, James, and Hebrews, as almost all Heretics are born there, and never can escape.

That's the reason I decided to read the bible cover to cover.

If you do what Hebrews 13:9 says to do with your heart, then God will show you more.
And the "more" is going to be found in the NT, and Paul Specifically.
Paul wrote the doctrine for the Church, and this is the most important thing to learn, as without this you can't ever become this one.. as Paul teaches.

"As many as be perfect"

"The Fullness of the Stature of Christ".

That and what it says about the Holy Spirit will call all to remembrance for us all things, so I figured we are the data entry clerks. How can He he bring it to our remembrance something we've never read?!

The HS will teach you what it means........., and to get that done quickly, is to find a good teacher, who already knows, and they just impart this to you.
And once you learn what many verses mean...........vs often what it says........as that is where all the issues happen., like i was showing you with the Noah Verse.
Catholicism, is built on that verse that says "WATER saved them", and in fact, it would have KILLED THEM< had they gotten into that water.

""but the verse says, water saved them".......

Yes i know what it says........but that is not what you are being shown...as the revelation.
We are being shown that the ARK saved Noah, not the WATER... Yet the verse says.. "noah was saved by WATER".

No he wasn't.
He was saved by that WOODEN boat that took 100+ yrs to build that kept him and the family and the animals out of the water.

And Today we are saved by Jesus on that WOODEN TREE.


So, this is why you have 45,000 confused denominations in the world...
Its because only some discern the verses and study Paul, and the rest read the verses, and never gain the revelation, and then they start a church or a denomination....... that is a CULT.

And they will tell you that they are "teaching the Truth, led of the Holy Spirit".......and they believe it., and yet...its not true.

I try to get that idea to the post tribbers and they just dont get it. What's the verse that says pre trib? and it isnt there, but it is.

1 Thess 4:14 ??

There is also a verse that says that the born again are not appointed to wrath... "the day of Wrath".. and that is the Grt Trib ending.

So, the born again are not appointed to any "wrath"...but those who are in the Trib-Grt Trib, are designated for it because they missed the Rapture, and are now STUCK in the TRIB and GRT Trib.
If they are able to complete the "Gospel of the Kingdom" then they become "Tribulation Saints" .. .. and that is not what we are now, as born again, in the "time of the Gentiles".

Now that was a Rhema. I also learned that, hey maybe I should read this more often! SO I started reading it more.

The Bible is the final answer book.

Sometimes a believer is in a mess.....just confused, lost in space......... everything is wrong....... no peace., and that can be because the Holy Spirit in them is very annoyed, very agitated, because they are caught up in some Cult Theology.

And sometimes.. you ask them......."did you read that NT verse that says....."

And they say.......>>"no i dont read that Bible......., as its full of errors...someone said...someone told me on : Christianity Board"........

 

[MatthewG]

All the Bible is simply the Bible. While historical places existed within it; no one can even prove the existence of God other than the evidences which suggest the existence of God. The Bible is the Bible. It’s that simple. People can debate the subject all day. It still comes down to the Bible simply being the Bible. It holds succinct value in my opinion; it also can be abused and misused by others.

 

[Ritajanice]

We need the Bible to confirm that we have been birthed by the Living Holy Spirit, plus we must be Born Again to understand the word in our spirit, as it was penned under the influence of the Spirit.

Therefore a Spirit book, understood in spirit, the Holy Spirit brings it to our understanding , because we are spirit children.
Now I love looking up all scripture after God speaks them to my heart/ spirit...I’m in it most of the day.but, it can never compare to the Love I have for God in my spirit.

I Love Father God with all my heart ,with all my mind , with all my soul, deeply ,deeply in LOVE with the Spirit Of God.

 

[MatthewG]

I had admiration for the Bible. I believe it’s a gift that Yahavah has let us have. However it is not a spirit book, it’s not Gods Word, or the “Word of God.”

It’s a material book give to us with evidences that suggest Gods existence and also gives spiritually taught lessons.

You can’t capture a spirit. And a book is not a spirit. It’s said somewhere there the wind can’t be captured; neither can a spirit.

 

[MA2444]

If you do what Hebrews 13:9 says to do with your heart, then God will show you more.
And the "more" is going to be found in the NT, and Paul Specifically.
Paul wrote the doctrine for the Church, and this is the most important thing to learn, as without this you can't ever become this one.. as Paul teaches.

"As many as be perfect"

"The Fullness of the Stature of Christ".

Do you think I overthink these things? Lol. Maybe I do.

No he wasn't.
He was saved by that WOODEN boat that took 100+ yrs to build that kept him and the family and the animals out of the water.

And Today we are saved by Jesus on that WOODEN TREE.

Yep, Noah was lifted up above the water by the boat. Jesus is our boat when He comes for us and we meet Him in the air!

So, this is why you have 45,000 confused denominations in the world...
Its because only some discern the verses and study Paul, and the rest read the verses, and never gain the revelation, and then they start a church or a denomination....... that is a CULT.

And they will tell you that they are "teaching the Truth, led of the Holy Spirit".......and they believe it., and yet...its not true.

Yeah, I've noticed that. they're all like, thus sayeth the Lord like it is established fact now, except it usually dont jive with scripture. And the sad thing is, that's sort of how it happens sometimes! I've asked the Lord a lot of questions over time and it's nice when He answers immediately, but He doesn't always. And His clock is different too so if He says, wait a minute, it might be a couple years! And spiritual discernment is sure what it turns into. The more sensitive to the awareness of the presence of God we are the easier it is to hear His still small voice. We can develop that too. Largely by hours spent in His Word. And talking to Him. What's that mean Lord? What are you trying to tell me.

But one can't really go around talking like that. Because Oh the Holy Spirit revealed that to me, thus sayeth the Lord, your wrong! SO I used to dance around that because it's tacky. But not any more really? What do I care if someone doesnt believe me? I dont sell anything and don't take donations so so what if some don't believe it. Look to the unseen.

2nd Corinthians 4:18
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
.../KJV

And if they choose not to believe it, that's ok. Some may have ears to hear. The things wwhich are not seen, are eternal. That means, that is real and more real than what can see. That is reality.

 

[MA2444]

I had admiration for the Bible. I believe it’s a gift that Yahavah has let us have. However it is not a spirit book, it’s not Gods Word, or the “Word of God.”

It’s a material book give to us with evidences that suggest Gods existence and also gives spiritually taught lessons.

You can’t capture a spirit. And a book is not a spirit. It’s said somewhere there the wind can’t be captured; neither can a spirit.

Your going to start telling God what He can and can not do? Lol. I don't think you can do that. You know all about the spirit realm then and how things work over there?

That's a good one! Lol. You are saying that God can't send His spirit into a book if He wants to? Hmmm. I bet spirits can inhabit electronics too. My computer kept acting up one day and I was trying to do a study and they were trying to stop me! So I cast out any and all spirits from my computer in the name of Jesus and make it work right again. And...yep, it started working good again right away. I know they can get in electronics.

I heard a guys testimony which wrote a book about something to do with the Lord. And the book wasn't doing very well at all. The man had a visitation one night and Jesus came and spoke to Him, and before He left He said hand me your book, so he did and he said Jesus opened the book and breathed into it or over it. He closed it and gave it back to Him and His book suddenly started selling like hotcakes!

No my friend, I think that spirits are (way( more powerful than you give them credit for.

 

[MatthewG]

There are a few people whom are on my ignore list already. All the best to you! God be with you.

 

[Ritajanice]

@MatthewG ..do you believe in God?

 

[marks]

So many people believe today that the Bible is considered either “Gods words or The Word of God.”

It’s not true…

This helps me to understand how it is that you come to think the things you do. You've cast off your anchor.

Yes, God is the Speaker, and the Bible is "merely" what He's said, just the same, ignore it at your peril.

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

Hello @marks,

It’s suspected, that Moses wrote the first four or five books of the Bible. Everyone suggest that God is the author?

It’s weird how people worship the Bible more than they listen to Jesus words of worshiping the Father in the spirit and in truth.

 

[Ritajanice]

What I don’t understand is, if Mathew doesn’t agree with the word...then what god is he following?

He keeps saying God Bless..,

 

[Ritajanice]

listen to Jesus words of worshiping the Father in the spirit and in truth

So how can you know if it’s the Spirit talking to you, if you don’t check out what you hear with scripture?
Plus how do you know to worship God in spirit and truth?
I’m confused. Rita.

 

[MA2444]

Hello @marks,

It’s suspected, that Moses wrote the first four books of the Bible. Everyone suggest that God is the author?

It’s weird how people worship the Bible more than they listen to Jesus words of worshiping the Father in the spirit and in truth.

What are you talking about? It is the Lord's words, that Moses wrote them down and God spoke. So God dictated to Moses what to write so His words can become manifest in man's natural realm, and help him.

They say all the theologians agree that God had to dictate it to Moses (and others) because of the presence of additional information contained within bible codes. You see you wasnt there when your neigbor Moses got the words and wrote them down. He got the words directly from God. But you werent there to see or hear that so you just say, Moses wrote it. Moses penned it but He didn't author it.

Who's worshipping the bible in this thread? No one I can see. Oh they words contained in the bible may carry power with them because of who spoke them, but it doesnt make the book God! Lol! His name is is Yeshua. But how come He cant put His spirit in that book or at least Holy Spirit goes, whoooosh, I'm here! when you open it up? He most certainly can.

How would you like to hear my personal Testimony of how God supernaturally changed my NIV bible into a NKJV bible? I have multiple witnesses! Richard bought me an NIV bible, then one day, it wasnt an NIV bible, it was a NKJV bible! So God can so do spooky things with books! I'll tell you the whole testimony if you want.

 

[Behold]

Do you think I overthink these things? Lol. Maybe I do.

So, I hope i dont shock your beans and tomato sauce, but i seldom read the OT.
My "call" is specific to the NT......
I only teach Paul's doctrine, because that is what He told us to do......learn it, pass it on.
So, unless i need a sermon or some specific teaching... for a group.......i dont use it... much.
Occasionally in a Forum Thread i might use a few verses from the OT, but not much......unless its a Psalm or Proverb or Prophecy.
I love the Psalms and Proverbs, and that is mostly where i read if im in the OT, or.... Genesis.

The church is NT...The Cross is NT.....Salvation as Paul's Gospel is NT......"""The times of the Gentiles"" are NT.......so, we are not in the OT other then prophetically.
So, my job is to know some Bible, and that means NT Doctrine......Paul's.....so that i can put into someone what isn't there that can help them GROW in God.

We are in the end times, just before the Trib starts, and there is a famine of Paul's teaching., because there has been a "great falling away" for over 80 yrs........from Paul's Theology into a lot of stuff that is just junk. Its just trash belief systems.

I kid you not, but the "Gospel of the Grace of God" is having a REVIVAL for about 2 decades.. because it was missing for a long time.

Christians have become the victims, in the last 80 yrs, of a False Gospel with no Grace in it.

If you read what Epikopos writes, you'll note that he has no use for Grace.....none., and He'll never talk about the Cross., unless i point this out to Him, and then he'll just insult, both.

The things i teach on Forums, are just this..>>"the simplicity that is IN Christ"......as that is the most basic of Paul's teaching, and its like "what is that stuff".........on most Christian Forums.
Is that "Gnosticism" as 1stCenturyLady thought?
Or is it.>"that is not in the Spirit" as RitaJanice told me today...

Most Christians believe this....."sin.... confess.. repeat".. is Christianity,..... because Paul said.>>>>"that which i want to do i can't".
And that is as FAR as they read........and their Pastor, Pope, Minister, or Bishop.... is the same.
But Paul didnt stop there......>>He stopped HERE..

A.) "Christ always gives me the victory,'"""" or the world, the flesh, and the devil.... so, that is CHRISTIANITY....and that is Paul's Doctrine.

Welcome home...........

Good luck finding it if im not on the Forum., and this is the BASIC understanding....its the MILK of the word>. not the meat.

I can go on 5 forums today..., and the Calvinists shout me down, or ban me if their Mods are Calvinists and that is because John Calvin and Paul the Apostle are ENEMIES........total.

Paul is the invisible man in Christianity for a long time, and on Forums., whereas John Calvinism , owns most of them.

You can come here any time and read all about the "predestined elect" and . "OSAS".. and "Mary".and "BIble errors"..., and that is because there is a famine of Paul's Theology, and His is THE NT CHURCH Doctrine.

Yep, Noah was lifted up above the water by the boat. Jesus is our boat when He comes for us and we meet Him in the air!

Absolutely..

Jesus is "THE Resurrection" who is "Christ in you ".. so, that is why you go UP and never down.

Yeah, I've noticed that. they're all like, thus sayeth the Lord like it is established fact now, except it usually dont jive with scripture.

When i first came to this forum, i wrote about 5 similar Threads....>"how to spot the Heretic".

And if you can't, you will become a victim.......just like they became one.

This is why i always reference Hebrews 13:9, as it says to "establish your heart with GRACE"..

And that does not mean, "be sweet as sugar"... or "get along with liars who pretend to teach the bible"........it means.>>>"get your understanding of the Gospel of Grace so perfect and so DEEP.... that no DECEIVER, who is trying to sell Calvinism, or "a higher walk in Zion"........can get your MIND and ruin your faith.

See, when we understand that Salvation is The Cross of Christ, and nothing we do........then we have understood that its all a GIFT.
"the Gift of Salvation"...
And once that becomes your heart faith, then no deceiver who tries to twist the Cross, into Calvinism, or tries to ignore it, like the person who makes Videos, and posts them here all the time.......and some of these others..........who are all about the Law and Sabbath, and Commandments......= none of these will be able to ruin your faith once you get that Cross Centered Faith as your REAL FAITH only.... as Paul teaches us to do.
You can't be deceived once you have gained this knowledge perfectly, because you have "worked out your salvation".

And the sad thing is, that's sort of how it happens sometimes! I've asked the Lord a lot of questions over time and it's nice when He answers immediately, but He doesn't always. And His clock is different too so if He says, wait a minute, it might be a couple years! And spiritual discernment is sure what it turns into.

Most of the time, if i ask God for something......its for Him to solve a situation or circumstance that i can't solve myself.
Ive learned that God works in the Supernatural, and i work in the Natural.. So, im expected to do all i can, and He is expected to do what i can't do.
So, i pray about it and then i wait in expectation the best i can.., as that is FAITH.

Other times i pray for direction.....>"Lord what is the right choice, as this is CONFUSING, and the more i try to look at it from a different angle, gives me one more way to do it and now i have 32 ways to do it, because i kept looking at it.....
"which one God'... .as they all seem good to me., but only one isnt a life trap or a situation where if id only chosen that other choice.... then this situation could have ended in 2 days vs 2 yrs.

And then sometimes you need a healing, or someone needs one, so, that is not a confusion... as that is always clear.

But one can't really go around talking like that. Because Oh the Holy Spirit revealed that to me, thus sayeth the Lord, your wrong! SO I used to dance around that because it's tacky. But not any more really? What do I care if someone doesnt believe me? I dont sell anything and don't take donations so so what if some don't believe it. Look to the unseen.

THe Devil (the demonic) will talk inside your head as if you are thinking it...as if it was your thought.
So, the way to make sure it isnt that, if that thought seems like an answer..or a direction..... is to make certain the answer lines up with the NT.

2nd Corinthians 4:18
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
.../KJV

Yes, its all temporal.
If you can see it, its temporary, and the eternal, is unseen.

We have Jesus in us..but, you can't see Him.
We have Eternal LIfe, and you can't see it.
Hell is there, people's spirits are in it, and you can't see it.
Jesus is seated by the Father, who is "A Spirit'........and you can't see any of it.
The NT says we are "surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses" and you can't see them.....
Angels help us all the time, and we can't see them.

Its all by FAITH.

 

[MA2444]

What I don’t understand is, if Mathew doesn’t agree with the word...then what god is he following?

He keeps saying God Bless..,

He might be one of those guys who say, the Holy Spirit tells me everything I need to know, and without reading the bible!

That don't jive with my experience. Oh the Lord or Holy Spirit can speak to you directly, that how Rhemas work and it is true, I know that. But the Lord never told me not to read it. SO that's odd.

He sounds kind of like my brother. It's hard to understand and I always fall asleep when I try to read it....not realizing that that is a spiritual attack, the enemy doesnt want you to read it. SO he makes you fall asleep. But if you put on a good movie you have no problem staying up to watch that....

People who hesitate to read and think they get all their enlightenment from the Spirit directly there is a gauge to measure them by. And that brings us back to the Word of God! The book of truth. I wonder if he has ever tested the spirit?

But either what the say is in agreement with scripture and some times, it;s not. So you can tell if someone really is hearing from the Holy Spirit.

 

[Behold]

It’s weird how people worship the Bible more than they listen to Jesus words of worshiping the Father in the spirit and in truth.

Christians love the Bible and adore the Bible, because it has God in it.. It has Jesus in it, It has the words of Life in it.. .

The NT is Eternal HOPE for us all.., and you can't find any of that outside the words of the Bible......as the world only offers FALSE HOPE.

Drugs are not hope.
MONEY is not hope.
Friends and family are not hope.

JESUS is our HOPE, as He is HOPE......itself.

Listen, its not ALLAH and Muhammed or The Buddha, who told us how to be forgiven, and how to go to Heaven..

Its the words in the BIBLE.. the HOLY BIBLE that showed us who is THE Only WAY THERE... John 14:6

 

[MA2444]

Psalm or Proverb

Those two are my favorite books of the OT.

I love the Psalms and Proverbs, and that is mostly where i read if im in the OT, or.... Genesis.

Genesis is a great book! It has a lot more than the first 3 chapters, lol! If you don't understand Genesis then you'll have trouble understanding much of the NT!

I kid you not, but the "Gospel of the Grace of God" is having a REVIVAL for about 2 decades.. because it was missing for a long time.

Christians have become the victims, in the last 80 yrs, of a False Gospel with no Grace in it.

Wouldn't that be cool?! Revival all across America. Maybe it would be like when He didnt destroy Ninevah because they repented.I think a lot of that depends on Trump and His 2nd term, along with all of our prayers backing him up.

It almost feels like it is too late for that and Judgment is coming to America. But I certainly hope that you are right Brother.

Most of the time, if i ask God for something......its for Him to solve a situation or circumstance that i can't solve myself.
Ive learned that God works in the Supernatural, and i work in the Natural.. So, im expected to do all i can, and He is expected to do what i can't do.
So, i pray about it and then i wait in expectation the best i can.., as that is FAITH.

Other times i pray for direction.....>"Lord what is the right choice, as this is CONFUSING, and the more i try to look at it from a different angle, gives me one more way to do it and now i have 32 ways to do it, because i kept looking at it.....
"which one God'... .as they all seem good to me., but only one isnt a life trap or a situation where if id only chosen that other choice.... then this situation could have ended in 2 days vs 2 yrs.

And then sometimes you need a healing, or someone needs one, so, that is not a confusion... as that is always clear.

One time I remember I was having some sort of financial crises of the slow season and it was very important and I only until tomorrow evening to do whatever it was I forget what. But it was bad enough to pray about and I guess I was fervent enough because he did answer my prayer it was out of my hands. And He came through for me like a great God would! Praise the Lord Forever!

So I was witnessing this new testimony I had to my buddy and Brother in Christ and told him how the Lord has set a pattern with me, last minute never late. He wants us to keep our faith in Him to the last minute! And my buddy says, wow I'm in a tight spot, Im gonna pray, Ed. So he came back over later that night and was angry at God for not answering his prayer. He said, I dunno why He didnt help me and I told Him that I need the money before 5:30...and =, I didnt have the heart to tell him. But God is not a vending machine where you ring Him up and say I need money, now! and complain when He doesnt answer it. I didn't tell Him that I need it by such and such a time. That's up to Him, I merely say Help Abba!

One time I needed bill money and I prayed about it in the morning and and was sweatin about it in the afternoon, so I headed over to my friends house to see if you would loan me some money. And as soon as I pulled up, the Lord says, What kind of faith is that? Did you not ask me for this, this morning? Who is your faith in? Your friend or me?

So I just went in and visited my friend and didnt ask him for a loan! Learned something that day.

 

[IronMaiden]

So many people believe today that the Bible is considered either “Gods words or The Word of God.”

It’s not true… it’s a collective of God and his people their doings and happenings. It’s simply “The Bible.” Nothing more. If you disagree with an interpretation all of sudden you’re going against “Gods words or the word of God.” When all you are doing is disagreeing with an interpretation.

Why is that? Taught Tradition?

What you take out of it and use of it is at your discretion.

The Bible is, without a doubt, God's infallible Word. Regardless of whether you can see and comprehend it or not, it is the Word of God.
Isaiah 40:5 (KJV) And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see [it] together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].