The answer of hell and its origins

[n2thelight]

2Thelight you do hold to the position of the serpent seed. You be referring that the serpent did impregnate Mother Eve in the garden?

That would be correct .

 

[Dropship]

..in the age to come (eternity), the spirits of previously deceased Christians and non-Christians will be reunited with their physical bodies..

If that's true, will we get brandnew new youngish bodies or our same old clapped-out ones?

 

[Dropship]

Explain how a soul burns?
Is it a special type of fire?
Where in the Bible are we shown this fire?

I'm flattered that you think I know all the answers but your best bet would be to pick up your bible because it can answer you much better than me..:)

 

[n2thelight]

No immortal soul sorry. Soul is used of a life...i.e. a soul that sins dies etc.

Didn't say the soul was immortal , as it must put on immortality , the soul can die .

 

[face2face]

Hell is NOT a place of eternal torment , our God is the consuming fire

Hebrews 12:29 "For our God is a consuming fire."

I can't comprehend how ANY Christian would believe that our Father would torture His kids forever and I really don't give a dang what they did .
Those who don't love God will just simply cease to be

Now we're talking - love this!
Most Christians have no idea of Who God actually is!
Great verse and in context.
F2F

 

[Prim]

That would be correct .

I guess much emphasis is placed on the word beguiled from Eves confession. Be that with the seduction of her mind which could also have led to physical seduction as well. The word Beguile or Beguiled be so explicit and expressive in a number of ways.

 

[face2face]

If that's true, will we get brandnew new youngish bodies or our same old clapped-out ones?

New and improved!

 

[BeyondET]

Explain how a soul burns?
Is it a special type of fire?
Where in the Bible are we shown this fire?

Interesting question, it seems in revelations there is a mentioning that it burns with brimstone which is chemical sulfur. It's inflammable which can burst into fire without ignition.

 

[face2face]

Interesting question, it seems in revelations there is a mentioning that it burns with brimstone which is chemical sulfur. It's inflammable which can burst into fire without ignition.

And Daniels friends untouched by the fire and they were human still...seems it's one of those anomalies the doctrine of souls tortured for eternity throws up. The Bible is silent on such things because how can it speak to something which is false?

 

[face2face]

The more questions you ask of a false doctrine the more false it becomes.

 

[n2thelight]

I guess much emphasis is placed on the word beguiled from Eves confession. Be that with the seduction of her mind which could also have led to physical seduction as well. The word Beguile or Beguiled be so explicit and expressive in a number of ways.

I also look at it from a Genesis 6 prospective as well , and then I ask myself why, and the answer to that is ,he was trying to destroy the line in which Christ would be born .

 

[n2thelight]

New and improved!

We already have a body , it's inside of the flesh ,Paul tells us that clear as day

 

[BeyondET]

And Daniels friends untouched by the fire and they were human still...seems it's one of those anomalies the doctrine of souls tortured for eternity throws up. The Bible is silent on such things because how can it speak to something which is false?

There's quite a bit of verses in the new and old text. brimstone seems to be used alot don't know quite what to make of it.

Revelations 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Revelations 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelations 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelations 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

[Dropship]

..will we get brandnew new youngish bodies or our same old clapped-out ones?

New and improved!

Whatever floats yer boat mate, but I think I'd like to have a purely spiritual body rather than another boring squishy fleshy body..:)
"..flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 15:42-50)

We can regard the transition from flesh to spirit as the final stage in human spiritual evolution, it's a theme covered in sci-fi such as this "Transfigurations" episode of TNG-

 

[face2face]

We already have a body , it's inside of the flesh ,Paul tells us that clear as day

Our bodies will be changed - Paul uses the term "put on" immortality. Flesh and blood becomes flesh and spirit though I believe we will be like the angels being able to show a physical body even though we are spirit beings. I'm still not 100% sure what divine nature looks like to be honest.

 

[face2face]

There's quite a bit of verses in the new and old text. brimstone seems to be used alot don't know quite what to make of it.

Revelations 14:10
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Revelations 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelations 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Revelations 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I believe the symbol of brimstone in the Revelation is speaking to judgement and war. In Revelation 11:8 Rome is likened to Sodom.

 

[Prim]

I also look at it from a Genesis 6 prospective as well , and then I ask myself why, and the answer to that is ,he was trying to destroy the line in which Christ would be born .

The old world of 1650 years prior to the flood could have harboured anywhere up to 1-40 billion people especially when taking into consideration their longitivtiy of life in being able to live up to a thousand years. One third of the angels were cast of heaven in the first rebellion the number we not know. How many of them from that number participated in sexual union with the daughters of men we not fully know either. Your line of thought being that the angels attempted to contaminate the human race and destroy the future bloodline of the Saviour. It’s a reasonable assessment. Though the angelic activity must have be on a much massive scale to do so. Adam did forfeit his dominion of the planet to Lucifer and maybe that gave the angels the power to do so but certainly not the right. For God did punish them ever so severely later. Did the daughters or men give themselves over willingly or were they raped as mentioned in the many ancient legends of the gods we can only wonder. All we do know is that there was much violence upon the whole of the old world. But we have inherited much violence into the New World as well. So it certainly seems that the destruction of the old world was due to something more directly that angels and humanity seem to have participated in.

 

[Prim]

Whatever floats yer boat mate, but I think I'd like to have a purely spiritual body rather than another boring squishy fleshy body..:)
"..flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 15:42-50)

We can regard the transition from flesh to spirit as the final stage in human spiritual evolution, it's a theme covered in sci-fi such as this "Transfigurations" episode of TNG-

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What a horrible heavenly transition. I think I’ll remain a mermaid

 

[Dropship]

What a horrible heavenly transition. I think I’ll remain a mermaid View attachment 26063

Watch out for the sharks..:)

 

[Prim]

Watch out for the sharks..:)

We not be on their food chain they prefer salty sailors. Best watch out for pretty mermaids who lure sailors from their ships into oceans deep ‍