The 10 Commandments are FOREVER

[BrotherDThomas]

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@GEN2REV,

YOUR BEREFT QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN RUNNING AWAY FROM MY BIBLICAL AXIOMS!!!!!!!!!!!: "Did you know you use spaces and a period ( . ) as your signature mistake under multiple of your screen names? You do it as Cooper, as BDT and others as well." Better clean it up. Gettin' sloppy.

ONCE AGAIN FOR THE FORTH TIME YOU HAVE RAN AWAY FROM JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS FROM ME, WHEN DOES IT EVER STOP?!
Do you have the sense to feel embarrassed over this ungodly act of yours? It's like you've never seen these biblical axioms before, whereas does the membership determine that your soul has been taken over by Satan and He is silencing you to not speak in the name of Jesus anymore?

This following passage is so apropos for your presence upon this esteemed Christian forum, to wit: "You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?" GET IT?!

It is obvious that you do not want me to bring forth the biblical axiom of there being three 10 Commandment options within the scriptures, and this is to save yourself from further embarrassment in the eyes of Jesus (Hebrews 4:13), as He watches you RUN AWAY from His inspired truthful words upon this topic. Shameful!

I will continue to pray for you in the advent upon you meeting Jesus upon Judgment Day, where He knows that you ran away from the truths that He proposed within His scriptures, where we just have to accept in Him in commanding murders, where we just have to move on the best way we can.

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[1stCenturyLady]

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@GEN2REV,

YOUR BEREFT QUOTE ONCE AGAIN IN RUNNING AWAY FROM MY BIBLICAL AXIOMS!!!!!!!!!!!: "Did you know you use spaces and a period ( . ) as your signature mistake under multiple of your screen names? You do it as Cooper, as BDT and others as well." Better clean it up. Gettin' sloppy.

ONCE AGAIN FOR THE FORTH TIME YOU HAVE RAN AWAY FROM JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS FROM ME, WHEN DOES IT EVER STOP?!
Do you have the sense to feel embarrassed over this ungodly act of yours? It's like you've never seen these biblical axioms before, whereas does the membership determine that your soul has been taken over by Satan and He is silencing you to not speak in the name of Jesus anymore?

This following passage is so apropos for your presence upon this esteemed Christian forum, to wit: "You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?" GET IT?!

It is obvious that you do not want me to bring forth the biblical axiom of there being three 10 Commandment options within the scriptures, and this is to save yourself from further embarrassment in the eyes of Jesus (Hebrews 4:13), as He watches you RUN AWAY from His inspired truthful words upon this topic. Shameful!

I will continue to pray for you in the advent upon you meeting Jesus upon Judgment Day, where He knows that you ran away from the truths that He proposed within His scriptures, where we just have to accept in Him in commanding murders, where we just have to move on the best way we can.

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I see you couldn't answer my post to you.

 

[quietthinker]

Please completely read and then comment on my short post #1294.

If you have the Spirit of the Law in your heart you will not have any issues with the letter. Issues with the letter of the Law surface when the Spirit of the Law in not in the heart.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

If you have the Spirit of the Law in your heart you will not have any issues with the letter. Issues with the letter of the Law surface when the Spirit of the Law in not in the heart.

You won't need to follow the letter once you have the Spirit of abiding in Jesus to rest in.

Besides we are in the New Covenant now, and don't need to follow the sign of the Old Covenant. We have our own sign of the covenant. The Cup of the New Covenant. 1 Cor. 11:25

If you want to add keeping Saturday too to go to church, that's fine. We are commanded only to not neglect assembling together. But make sure you are all filled with the Holy Spiri

 

[quietthinker]

@quietthinker,

YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR POST #1293: "The self righteousness oozing from your words is ugly BDT......you might consider it."

Are you calling Jesus' biblical axioms that I present to the lost Christians like GEN2REV is ugly and is self-righteousness? Surely you jest! Do the math. LOL!


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hear it with unblocked ears BDT!

 

[quietthinker]

You won't need to follow the letter once you have the Spirit of abiding in Jesus to rest in.

Besides we are in the New Covenant now, and don't need to follow the sign of the Old Covenant. We have our own sign of the covenant. The Cup of the New Covenant. 1 Cor. 11:25

If you want to add keeping Saturday too to go to church, that's fine. We are commanded only to not neglect assembling together. But make sure you are all filled with the Holy Spiri

you're not arguing with me 1CL, you're arguing with God's own words.

 

[quietthinker]

You won't need to follow the letter once you have the Spirit of abiding in Jesus to rest in.

Besides we are in the New Covenant now, and don't need to follow the sign of the Old Covenant. We have our own sign of the covenant. The Cup of the New Covenant. 1 Cor. 11:25

If you want to add keeping Saturday too to go to church, that's fine. We are commanded only to not neglect assembling together. But make sure you are all filled with the Holy Spiri

Is that like, you won't need to adhere to the speed sign if the speed restriction is in your heart?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Is that like, you won't need to adhere to the speed sign if the speed restriction is in your heart?

The letter of the law kills, but the Spirit of the law brings life. So how do you instinctively keep the Spirit of the Sabbath, without keeping it by the letter that kills? I'll tell you how. By being baptized in the Holy Spirit of God, that's how. Jesus, the Creator of everything, abides inside the born again, and we cannot sin because we have the seed of the Father inside of us. I'm only speaking of "Christians" that have been born again and keep the Spirit of the law, with the laws of God's love written on our hearts and in our minds. To love God with all our strength, mind and heart, and love our neighbor as ourselves. Abiding in Jesus and He in me is how to keep the Spirit of the Sabbath, by keeping the Creator, the substance of the Sabbath day, inside me. He is the Spirit of Christ. And the Spirit of the LAW. With the God of the universe in me, I can do anything through Christ who strengthens me. That includes being righteous and holy.

 

[theefaith]

The 10 commandments are part of the eternal moral law!
The law has three parts
Moral law
Judicial law
Ceremonial law
The moral law passed to the new covenant
The judicial law to peter and the apostles
The ceremonial law was fulfilled

 

[1stCenturyLady]

The 10 commandments are part of the eternal moral law!
The law has three parts
Moral law
Judicial law
Ceremonial law
The moral law passed to the new covenant
The judicial law to peter and the apostles
The ceremonial law was fulfilled

Actually a deeper moral law became part of the New Covenant. The Old Covenant law was too shallow, basically the bottom line. Now hate is equal to murder, where before you could hate, but murder was the letter of the law. Hate is inside our spirit and soul and has been replaced by love.

 

[theefaith]

Actually a deeper moral law became part of the New Covenant. The Old Covenant law was too shallow, basically the bottom line. Now hate is equal to murder, where before you could hate, but murder was the letter of the law. Hate is inside our spirit and soul and has been replaced by love.

proof that Jesus is God cos he changed the commandments

 

[BrotherDThomas]

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@1stCenturyLady,

SINCE WHEN DO YOU NEED AN ANSWER SO QUICKLY FROM YOUR POST #1300?: "I see you couldn't answer my post to you."

As I am finding out in the name of Jesus, there're many Christians upon this well established and reputable Christian forum, that don't know what they think they know, therefore I have only so much time to enlighten this faction upon biblical principles. Therefore I cannot get to everyones posts to me in a timely manner, BUT, I will now get to yours!

I am assuming in reading your post #1300 in question, that there is no need to actually visit a church on the Sabbath DAY, but to do it “spiritually” in your mind instead. If this is correct, then the following godly inspired “few examples” of many comes to mind:

First thing, where do you get the authority in a biblical axiomatic way to state that the Sabbath Day can be taken in a “spiritual form,” and by not attending a physical church of your division of the faith?!


JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS STATE THAT YOU ARE WRONG, AND THE REASONING IS HEREWITH TO ATTEND CHURCH ON THE SABBATH DAY INSTEAD OF DOING IT SPIRITUALLY:

“Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! …(Psalm 150:1-6)

You cannot follow the passage shown above in giving Jesus praise with music and instruments if you only praise Him in spirit! Therefore you go directly against this Biblical axiom! SHAME!


“If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:” (1 Timothy 3:15-16)

Here Paul says that an actual church is the foundation of Jesus and where godliness springs forth is GREAT, therefore a TRUE Christian attends church on the Sabbath to experience this truth!


“As they went on their way through the cities, they delivered to them for observance the decisions that had been reached by the apostles and elders who were in Jerusalem. So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and they increased in numbers daily.” (Acts 16:4-5)

Jesus’ churches are strengthened if they increase in numbers of the faithful, therefore church is to be attended upon the Sabbath Day, and not in a "spirit form" as you insidiously state!


“Now he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. And there was a woman who had had a disabling spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not fully straighten herself. When Jesus saw her, he called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your disability.” (Luke 13:10-13)

Jesus attended His church Jewish church upon the Sabbath, and set an example to do so for all of His Jewish Christian followers. Therefore if it is good enough for Jesus to warrant this act, then it is good enough for all Christians to follow suit! 2+2=4!


“Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.” (Acts 20:28)

If a pseudo-christian does not attend church, then they are slapping Jesus in the face to not being able to care for the church which was obtained by Jesus’ sacrifice!


Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,” (Ephesians 5:25)

This passage is self-explanatory, Jesus loved His church, and gave His life for it, therefore He expects His followers to attend His church upon the Sabbath Day, period! Remember, Jesus is watching you if you do not attend His church on the Lord's Day! (Hebrews 4:13)


As is explicitly shown, a TRUE Christian is to attend a physical actual church upon the Sabbath Day as Jesus has shown in scripture, and has set an example, in the aforementioned inspired by Jesus passages! There are NO excuses like you have proffered in “Spiritually” attending church on the Sabbath Day just because you want to possibly sleep in our Lord's Day! DESPICABLE!

Besides, you are to give your offerings in cash when the plate is passed around to the membership, and you cannot perform this godly act in the “spirit” form by ungodly staying home on the Sabbath Day! SHAMEFUL TO SAY THE LEAST!


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[Jim B]

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@1stCenturyLady,

SINCE WHEN DO YOU NEED AN ANSWER SO QUICKLY FROM YOUR POST #1300?: "I see you couldn't answer my post to you."

As I am finding out in the name of Jesus, there're many Christians upon this well established and reputable Christian forum, that don't know what they think they know, therefore I have only so much time to enlighten this faction upon biblical principles. Therefore I cannot get to everyones posts to me in a timely manner, BUT, I will now get to yours!

I am assuming in reading your post #1300 in question, that there is no need to actually visit a church on the Sabbath DAY, but to do it “spiritually” in your mind instead. If this is correct, then the following godly inspired “few examples” of many comes to mind:

First thing, where do you get the authority in a biblical axiomatic way to state that the Sabbath Day can be taken in a “spiritual form,” and by not attending a physical church of your division of the faith?!


JESUS' INSPIRED WORDS STATE THAT YOU ARE WRONG, AND THE REASONING IS HEREWITH TO ATTEND CHURCH ON THE SABBATH DAY INSTEAD OF DOING IT SPIRITUALLY:

“Praise the Lord! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty heavens! Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his excellent greatness! Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! Praise him with tambourine and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! …(Psalm 150:1-6)

You cannot follow the passage shown above in giving Jesus praise with music and instruments if you only praise Him in spirit! Therefore you go directly against this Biblical axiom! SHAME!


“If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:” (1 Timothy 3:15-16)

Here Paul says that an actual church is the foundation of Jesus and where godliness springs forth is GREAT, therefore a TRUE Christian attends church on the Sabbath to experience this truth!


“As they went on their way through the cities, they delivered to them for observance the decisions that had been reached by the apostles and elders who were in Jerusalem. So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and they increased in numbers daily.” (Acts 16:4-5)

Jesus’ churches are strengthened if they increase in numbers of the faithful, therefore church is to be attended upon the Sabbath Day, and not in a "spirit form" as you insidiously state!


“Now he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. And there was a woman who had had a disabling spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not fully straighten herself. When Jesus saw her, he called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your disability.” (Luke 13:10-13)

Jesus attended His church Jewish church upon the Sabbath, and set an example to do so for all of His Jewish Christian followers. Therefore if it is good enough for Jesus to warrant this act, then it is good enough for all Christians to follow suit! 2+2=4!


“Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.” (Acts 20:28)

If a pseudo-christian does not attend church, then they are slapping Jesus in the face to not being able to care for the church which was obtained by Jesus’ sacrifice!


Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,” (Ephesians 5:25)

This passage is self-explanatory, Jesus loved His church, and gave His life for it, therefore He expects His followers to attend His church upon the Sabbath Day, period! Remember, Jesus is watching you if you do not attend His church on the Lord's Day! (Hebrews 4:13)


As is explicitly shown, a TRUE Christian is to attend a physical actual church upon the Sabbath Day as Jesus has shown in scripture, and has set an example, in the aforementioned inspired by Jesus passages! There are NO excuses like you have proffered in “Spiritually” attending church on the Sabbath Day just because you want to possibly sleep in our Lord's Day! DESPICABLE!

Besides, you are to give your offerings in cash when the plate is passed around to the membership, and you cannot perform this godly act in the “spirit” form by ungodly staying home on the Sabbath Day! SHAMEFUL TO SAY THE LEAST!


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It's a good thing that you don't think in extremes -- not! There are many people who, for one reason or another, don't attend a physical church. They may be incapacitated, elderly, or have some other situation that affects their being unable to attend.

Where is your compassion??

 

[amadeus]

proof that Jesus is God cos he changed the commandments

He changed the commandments? I think not!

"The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever." Isaiah 40:8

"For I am the LORD, I change not;" Malachi 3:6

 

[1stCenturyLady]

proof that Jesus is God cos he changed the commandments

Yes, that is true theefaith. But in 1 John 3:23 the Father is also seen as changing them, further confirming that the three are one.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I am assuming in reading your post #1300 in question, that there is no need to actually visit a church on the Sabbath DAY, but to do it “spiritually” in your mind instead. If this is correct, then the following godly inspired “few examples” of many comes to mind:

First thing, where do you get the authority in a biblical axiomatic way to state that the Sabbath Day can be taken in a “spiritual form,” and by not attending a physical church of your division of the faith?!

Firstly, thank you for acknowledging me. I love Adventists and like to have a relationship with all of you, not just @BarnyFife and @quietthinker who I call QT, two lovely and fine Christian men.

I also want to get ahead of your thoughts that I may believe that Saturday was changed to Sunday. No, I don't. That became tradition, not law but they did meet on the first day of the week, and also on the Sabbath to preach to the Jews who were gathered in the synagogue. It really irks me when the Amish call Sunday, the Sabbath. noff said.


Galatians 3:
19 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made;

Colossians 2:
13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. (Romans 6:6-7 below) 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it.

16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ

Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.

Romans 8:1-9
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

2 Corinthians 3:6-11
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

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[Abigail]

Has anyone ever wondered if atheists scan discussion sites like this to see how Christians get on in community?

 

[1stCenturyLady]

“If I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:” (1 Timothy 3:15-16)

Here Paul says that an actual church is the foundation of Jesus and where godliness springs forth is GREAT, therefore a TRUE Christian attends church on the Sabbath to experience this truth!

The verse and your statement do not correlate. The "mystery" from which true godliness springs is God in us. It is also called abiding in Him, and He in us. This is the New Covenant of the Spirit. We are holy because God in us is holy. Certainly there are steps to take during our life, but at the end we should be at a place where we never stumble. 2 Peter 2-11. Study those verses.

“As they went on their way through the cities, they delivered to them for observance the decisions that had been reached by the apostles and elders who were in Jerusalem. So the churches were strengthened in the faith, and they increased in numbers daily.” (Acts 16:4-5)

Jesus’ churches are strengthened if they increase in numbers of the faithful, therefore church is to be attended upon the Sabbath Day, and not in a "spirit form" as you insidiously state!

"insidiously state?" I would never hear either @BarnyFife or "quietthinker" provoke with vile like that. They might even be embarassed that you, a Seventh-day Adventist should represent your denomination like that and even say something to you. Even if in private.

The "decisions that had been reaches by the apostles and elders" had nothing to do with the Sabbath, They said: Acts 15:19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.

“Now he was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath. And there was a woman who had had a disabling spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not fully straighten herself. When Jesus saw her, he called her over and said to her, “Woman, you are freed from your disability.” (Luke 13:10-13)

Jesus attended His church Jewish church upon the Sabbath, and set an example to do so for all of His Jewish Christian followers. Therefore if it is good enough for Jesus to warrant this act, then it is good enough for all Christians to follow suit! 2+2=4!

While alive on earth Jesus kept His Father's commandments, just like He wants us to obey His Own commandments, John 15:10, 1 John 3:23-24. (I added 24 because we must be born again and be filled with the Holy Spirit of Christ. In other words, we must abide in Him, and He in us.

“Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.” (Acts 20:28)

If a pseudo-christian does not attend church, then they are slapping Jesus in the face to not being able to care for the church which was obtained by Jesus’ sacrifice!

Yes, we are commanded for our own good, especially as we see the day of Christ's return draw nigh. Hebrews 10:25. Sorry, no letter of the law reminding them of some law from the Old Covenant.

11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before,

16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,” (Ephesians 5:25)

This passage is self-explanatory, Jesus loved His church, and gave His life for it, therefore He expects His followers to attend His church upon the Sabbath Day, period! Remember, Jesus is watching you if you do not attend His church on the Lord's Day! (Hebrews 4:13)

That "day" is TODAY. Entering into God's rest is a moment by moment abiding in Him and He in us. Get it through your head that the sign of the Old Covenant is NOT God's rest, nor the promised land. Our promised land is being in Jesus.

7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

"work is obeying laws that are contrary to our nature. It is also outward laws performed on the outside, like circumcision or keeping particular days. Those are the letter of the law.

As is explicitly shown, a TRUE Christian is to attend a physical actual church upon the Sabbath Day as Jesus has shown in scripture, and has set an example, in the aforementioned inspired by Jesus passages! There are NO excuses like you have proffered in “Spiritually” attending church on the Sabbath Day just because you want to possibly sleep in our Lord's Day! DESPICABLE!

Besides, you are to give your offerings in cash when the plate is passed around to the membership, and you cannot perform this godly act in the “spirit” form by ungodly staying home on the Sabbath Day! SHAMEFUL TO SAY THE LEAST!

Again, not like my @BarnyFife and QT pie (@quietthinker).

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Has anyone ever wondered if atheists scan discussion sites like this to see how Christians get on in community?

Those atheists are atheists because they are mad at God, and love our disharmony.

 

[BarneyFife]

The verse and your statement do not correlate. The "mystery" from which true godliness springs is God in us. It is also called abiding in Him, and He in us. This is the New Covenant of the Spirit. We are holy because God in us is holy. Certainly there are steps to take during our life, but at the end we should be at a place where we never stumble. 2 Peter 2-11. Study those verses.



"insidiously state?" I would never hear either @BarnyFife or "quietthinker" provoke with vile like that. They might even be embarassed that you, a Seventh-day Adventist should represent your denomination like that and even say something to you. Even if in private.

The "decisions that had been reaches by the apostles and elders" had nothing to do with the Sabbath, They said: Acts 15:19 Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, 20 but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.



While alive on earth Jesus kept His Father's commandments, just like He wants us to obey His Own commandments, John 15:10, 1 John 3:23-24. (I added 24 because we must be born again and be filled with the Holy Spirit of Christ. In other words, we must abide in Him, and He in us.



Yes, we are commanded for our own good, especially as we see the day of Christ's return draw nigh. Hebrews 10:25. Sorry, no letter of the law reminding them of some law from the Old Covenant.

11 And every priest stands ministering daily and offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

15 But the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before,

16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

19 Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, 21 and having a High Priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.



That "day" is TODAY. Entering into God's rest is a moment by moment abiding in Him and He in us. Get it through your head that the sign of the Old Covenant is NOT God's rest, nor the promised land. Our promised land is being in Jesus.

7 again He designates a certain day, saying in David, “Today,” after such a long time, as it has been said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. 10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

"work is obeying laws that are contrary to our nature. It is also outward laws performed on the outside, like circumcision or keeping particular days. Those are the letter of the law.




Again, not like my @BarnyFife and QT pie (@quietthinker).

Don't feed the trolls, Sis. ;)