The 10 Commandments are FOREVER

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GEN2REV said:
... (the Holy Spirit) lived a physical life of perfection, without a single sin from physical birth to physical death. When Jesus died upon the Cross, His Spirit of sinless perfection was sealed forevermore. "It is finished!!"

That is because Jesus was conceived with the seed of the Father, so He lived his whole life free from sinful desires.
This is an absolutely outrageous blasphemy against Christ and His accomplishments in the body. If it were true, He wouldn't have been qualified to be our High Priest. The ignorance of scripture among those on Christians Forums that rail against Truth is mind blowing.

"For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."
Hebrews 4:15

GEN2REV said:
Now, He could send His perfected Spirit into any and all believers for the purpose of enabling/empowering them to overcome sin. What is sin? It is the breaking of the Commandments, the Law. 1 John 3:4
Not to overcome sin, but to have no sin.
Wrong. Sin is still a factor today, as all Christians know that we can still sin. Therefore the Holy Spirit's purpose, among others, is to equip us with the power and wherewithal to put all sin away.
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We are to keep the commandments of JESUS, like Jesus kept perfectly the commandments of His own Father. We are to follow Jesus and His New Covenant, like Jesus kept the commandments of the Old Covenant that He lived His life under until "It is finished."
Wrong.

I've already proven Jesus Commandments are the Father's Commandments.
John 1:1 Jesus is God and was present at Creation as well as Mt. Sinai where the 10 Commandments were given. Jesus lived His life as a perfect example of how God expects man to live.
1 John 2:6 We are to live as Jesus lived.

And as for you, 1CL, and all the rest who are dashing God's Commandments, you do not know Jesus Christ. If you did, you would defend His righteous Commandments.

"... sin not. And if any man sin (because sin is obviously still possible), we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: ... And hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His Commandments. He/she that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His Commandments, is a liar, and the Truth (Jesus Christ) is not in them."
1 John 2:1
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@GEN2REV,

10 FACTS you need to know about the 10 Commandments
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GEN2REV,

In your post #1274, Dustin Pestlin is a bible fool! Where do you find these Satanic videos like you have shown to the membership? Does Satan email them to you, and then you have the audacity to post them within this prestigious forum where you blatantly become ungodly?

Like I have proffered to you before, there are THREE DIFFERENT 10 COMMANDMENTS within the scriptures, and this minion of Satan named Dustin Pestlin has the wrong set in Exodus 10:1-17 of the 10 commandments to begin with! BLASPHEME!

I will pray for you tonight in bringing this ungodly video to the forefront. WWJD? :(


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@GEN2REV,

YOUR QUOTE FROM POST #1254 THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTIONS IN MY POST #1250 TO YOU, BUT TO ONLY RUN AWAY FROM THEM: "Which do you think there will be more of in Heaven, those who made a sincere effort - from the heart - with prayer and the guidance of the Holy Spirit ...
...or those who ... didn't ... even ... try? Which of those involves enduring faith, ... and which casts it by the way side?

I'll respectfully ask you once again, in Numbers 15:32-36 relative to Exodus 35:2, our Jesus ordered Moses and the people present, to murder the man that defamed the Sabbath day by "picking up sticks," therefore are you willing to do the same in following this commandment by Jesus the Christ towards people today that does the same infraction? And if you don't, then you do not love Jesus. “If you love me, you will keep my commandments." (John 14:15)

Subjectively speaking, I as a True Christian, can't murder anyone that Jesus says to do, because of that person not respecting the Sabbath. This I will have to account for upon Judgment Day. How about you?
I'm not obligated to respond to ANYONE. I certainly have no need to RUN from anybody's post in an online Chat Forum.

You present yourself as some Master of the Bible, but you are clueless in regard to scripture.

Murder is a sin against God. Did it cross through your thick skull that if God Almighty tells His people to put someone to death, it cannot be called murder. Murder, genius, is a selfish, prideful act done only for self-gain, or preservation. God never commanded anyone to murder anybody.

I have no need to murder anybody for not obeying the Commandments. God hasn't commanded me to and nothing in scripture even hints that He expects that today. And in case it wasn't obvious, it didn't get answered the first time because it is a stupid question.
 

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The OP says that the 10 commandments are forever. That is true, but only for those who are under the old Mosaic covenant. I and every other Christian are not under the OT law; we're under God's grace and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
You are only under Grace if you are saved, have the Holy Spirit and never break any of the 10 Commandments. If you still sin, break the Commandments, you are then under Law.
Do you really need a "rule book" to tell you not to steal, not to kill, not to commit adultery, etc?
Since the only book of Law is the Mosaic Law, no, you don't. God's Law was written in Stone. Most Christians break those laws daily so, ... they do need that Law.
1 John 2:3-4
 

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You are only under Grace if you are saved, have the Holy Spirit and never break any of the 10 Commandments. If you still sin, break the Commandments, you are then under Law.
Since the only book of Law is the Mosaic Law, no, you don't. God's Law was written in Stone. Most Christians break those laws daily so, ... they do need that Law.
1 John 2:3-4

If you break any of the 10 Commandments you are under the law? Where does it say that in the Bible? I am saved because of Christ's sacrifice, which paid the price for all sin for all time. I am under grace and am free from the law, otherwise Christ died for nothing.

1 John 1:9, " But if we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous, forgiving us our sins and cleansing us from all unrighteousness."
 

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@GEN2REV,

YOUR QUOTE IN POST #1283 WHERE YOU RUN AWAY FROM BIBLICAL AXIOMS AGAIN: I'm not obligated to respond to ANYONE. I certainly have no need to RUN from anybody's post in an online Chat Forum."

See, this is what gets me in trouble with any forum that I godly attend, and that is, the fact that I bring forth disturbing Biblical axioms that YOU, and many others, cannot address other than to RUN AWAY from them. :( Don't think that the membership within this thread of yours doesn't see this Satanic act of yours!


YOUR MISNOMER OF MY BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE: "You present yourself as some Master of the Bible, but you are clueless in regard to scripture."

GEN2RV, dear, I have forgotten more about the Judeo-Christian Bible than you will ever learn! This is easily shown by you in not responding in kind to my biblical axioms, other than for you to run away from them without even "trying" to refute them. Simple math, 2+2=4.


UNFORTUNATELY YOUR BIBLE IGNORANCE SHOWS ITS UGLY HEAD AGAIN: "God never commanded anyone to murder anybody."

OMG, what did you just say? In the verse in question, our Jesus commands Moses and the congregation, to MURDER the person that defiled the Sabbath Day: " ....... And the Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp...." (Numbers 15:35).

Dear, what part of this passage above don't you understand, where our Jesus said to murder this person that defiled the Sabbath, and to do it with stoning him to death? In the same context as you promoting the Exodus 20:1-17 commandments, which is the wrong set of commandments to begin with, we TRUE Christians have to accept that we have to promote that Jesus commands murders as shown in Numbers 15:35, and in other situations throughout the Bible! 2+2=4.


See, this is what gets me in trouble when visiting fine Christian Forums like this one represents, in that we all know about the niceties within the Bible, but when I find the ones that are disturbing since reading the Bible 5 times, I allegedly become stupid, or vile, or Satan incarnate by Christians that cannot accept these biblical axioms. But yet these Bible anomalies remain in existence where the GEN2RV's run away from them like they didn't exist and are guilty of this passage: EVERY word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.“ (Proverbs 30:5) Therefore, and unfortunately, Jesus showing Himself as commanding a murder, and how to do it by stoning this person to death, is flawless in Numbers 15:32-36. :(


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@GEN2REV,

YOUR QUOTE SHOWING THAT YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH OF JESUS' MO: "You're a clown. :) Your avatar doesn't help your situation in the least. 12 posts and only one like? Wonder why."

AGAIN, you are looking for ungodly child like "excuses" to run away from my superior Bible knowledge, over your grade-school knowledge of same in your post #1284. My avatar image was taken by a Christian in finally receiving the truth within the Bible that I gave to them, and do not make fun of it because you cannot answer my biblical axioms! "Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving." (Ephesians 5:4)

I am not here to win awards in liking me, as Jesus also inferred herewith: "Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," (2 Timothy 3:12)

GEN2REV, therefore for your enlightenment in the future and not to be laughed at anymore, like you did with laughing at me in allegedly proposing this biblical axiom, do you want me to discuss the fact that you are using the WRONG 10 Commandments in Exodus 20:1-7, and the FACT that there're 3 DIFFERENT 10 COMMANDMENTS shown within the scriptures? Please, this time DO NOT runaway again with unsupportive propositions to the simple question at hand, but only answer in kind. Okay? We thank you. YES OR NO?


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@GEN2REV,

YOUR QUOTE FROM POST #1254 THAT HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY QUESTIONS IN MY POST #1250 TO YOU, BUT TO ONLY RUN AWAY FROM THEM: "Which do you think there will be more of in Heaven, those who made a sincere effort - from the heart - with prayer and the guidance of the Holy Spirit ...
...or those who ... didn't ... even ... try? Which of those involves enduring faith, ... and which casts it by the way side?

I'll respectfully ask you once again, in Numbers 15:32-36 relative to Exodus 35:2, our Jesus ordered Moses and the people present, to murder the man that defamed the Sabbath day by "picking up sticks," therefore, are you willing to do the same in following this commandment by Jesus the Christ towards people today that does the same infraction? And if you don't, then you do not love Jesus. “If you love me, you will keep my commandments." (John 14:15)

Subjectively speaking, I as a True Christian, can't murder anyone that Jesus says to do, because of that person not respecting the Sabbath. This I will have to account for upon Judgment Day. How about you?


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The letter of the law kills, but the Spirit of the law brings life. So how do you instinctively keep the Spirit of the Sabbath, without keeping it by the letter that kills? I'll tell you how. By being baptized in the Holy Spirit of God, that's how. Jesus, the Creator of everything, abides inside the born again, and we cannot sin because we have the seed of the Father inside of us. I'm only speaking of "Christians" that have been born again and keep the Spirit of the law, with the laws of God's love written on our hearts and in our minds. To love God with all our strength, mind and heart, and love our neighbor as ourselves. Abiding in Jesus and He in me is how to keep the Spirit of the Sabbath, by keeping the Creator, the substance of the Sabbath day, inside me. He is the Spirit of Christ. And the Spirit of the LAW. With the God of the universe in me, I can do anything through Christ who strengthens me. That includes being righteous and holy.
 
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Hello to you,

Reader of this thread 10 commandments are forever, yes they are there to remind you of imperfect you are.

Jesus Christ is my righteousness.

Grace is covering me by the blood of Jesus Christ, with faith in Him.

My works are like filthy rags if I try to make myself right with God without Jesus Christ I am a failure.

The Law given my Moses is the ministry of death.

Reject anything that causes you to start having hatred towards others or leads you to having a sense of pride in being above others or that you are better than others!

No one is good no not one.

If you believe that you need the Ten Commandments to get to heaven you are wrong… the Ten Commandments are there to remind you that you are not perfect and never will be in the flesh. (You can grow in the spirit by seeking out the things of God and having relationship with God in spirit and truth).

In the end it is about faith in the Lord Jesus, and having love for true and living God and love for others, no matter where they may be in life, and having love for yourself last.

In love,
Matthew Gallagher
 
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I agree that there are are doctrines of demons out there VERY prevalent in all the denominations. It has to do with the issue of sin. SDAs are not involved in these doctrines of demons that I have seen. Answer this question: What did Jesus accomplish on the cross regarding Christians who follow Him and the issue of sin?
Jesus reconciled all of humanity. It says, he is not angry with us and for those who hear this their hearts are turned to God; they have the desire to do his will even when they stumble.
 
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Jesus reconciled all of humanity. It says, he is not angry with us and for those who hear this their hearts are turned to God; they have the desire to do his will even when they stumble.

2 Peter 1:10-11
10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Read 2 Peter 1:5-7 to find out what "these things" are.
 

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@GEN2REV,

YOUR QUOTE SHOWING THAT YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH OF JESUS' MO: "You're a clown. :) Your avatar doesn't help your situation in the least. 12 posts and only one like? Wonder why."

AGAIN, you are looking for ungodly child like "excuses" to run away from my superior Bible knowledge, over your grade-school knowledge of same. My avatar image was taken by a Christian in finally receiving the truth within the Bible that I gave to them, and do not make fun of it because you cannot answer my biblical axioms! "Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving." (Ephesians 5:4)

I am not here to win awards in liking me, as Jesus also inferred herewith: "Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," (2 Timothy 3:12)

GEN2REV, Therefore, for your enlightenment in the future and not to be laughed at anymore, do you want me to discuss the fact that you are using the WRONG 10 Commandments in Exodus 20:1-7, and the FACT that there're 3 DIFFERENT 10 COMMANDMENTS shown within the scriptures? Please, this time DO NOT runaway again with unsupportive propositions again to the simple question at hand, but only answer in kind. Okay? We thank you. YES OR NO?
The self righteousness oozing from your words is ugly BDT......you might consider it.
 
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The letter of the law kills, but the Spirit of the law brings life. So how do you instinctively keep the Spirit of the Sabbath, without keeping it by the letter that kills? I'll tell you how. But being baptized in the Holy Spirit of God, that's how. Jesus, the Creator of everything, abides inside the born again, and we cannot sin because we have the seed of the Father inside of us. I'm only speaking of "Christians" that have been born again and keep the Spirit of the law, with the laws of God's love written on our hearts and in our minds. To love God with all our strength, mind and heart, and love our neighbor as ourselves. Abiding in Jesus and He in me is how to keep the Spirit of the Sabbath, by keeping the Creator, the substance of the Sabbath day, inside me. He is the Spirit of Christ. And the Spirit of the LAW. With the God of the universe in me, I can do anything through Christ who strengthens me. That includes being righteous and holy.

Great post!! This should be read and understood by everyone.
 
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@GEN2REV,

YOUR QUOTE SHOWING THAT YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE TRUTH OF JESUS' MO: "You're a clown. :) Your avatar doesn't help your situation in the least. 12 posts and only one like? Wonder why."

AGAIN, you are looking for ungodly child like "excuses" to run away from my superior Bible knowledge, over your grade-school knowledge of same in your post #1284. My avatar image was taken by a Christian in finally receiving the truth within the Bible that I gave to them, and do not make fun of it because you cannot answer my biblical axioms! "Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving." (Ephesians 5:4)

I am not here to win awards in liking me, as Jesus also inferred herewith: "Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," (2 Timothy 3:12)

GEN2REV, therefore for your enlightenment in the future and not to be laughed at anymore, do you want me to discuss the fact that you are using the WRONG 10 Commandments in Exodus 20:1-7, and the FACT that there're 3 DIFFERENT 10 COMMANDMENTS shown within the scriptures? Please, this time DO NOT runaway again with unsupportive propositions to the simple question at hand, but only answer in kind. Okay? We thank you. YES OR NO?


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Did you know you use spaces and a period ( . ) as your signature mistake under multiple of your screen names? You do it as Cooper, as BDT and others as well.

Better clean it up.

Gettin' sloppy.
 

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@quietthinker,

YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR POST #1293: "The self righteousness oozing from your words is ugly BDT......you might consider it."

Are you calling Jesus' biblical axioms that I present to the lost Christians like GEN2REV is ugly and is self-righteousness? Surely you jest! Do the math. LOL!


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@quietthinker,

YOUR QUOTE IN YOUR POST #1293: "The self righteousness oozing from your words is ugly BDT......you might consider it."

Are you calling Jesus' biblical axioms that I present to the lost Christians like GEN2REV is ugly and is self-righteousness? Surely you jest! Do the math. LOL!


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Please completely read and then comment on my short post #1294.
 
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