This is a false argument being used by you to win your argument without presenting any substance to back up your opinion.You have shown your hand and your ability of being able to influence what others will believe, has been lost.
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This is a false argument being used by you to win your argument without presenting any substance to back up your opinion.You have shown your hand and your ability of being able to influence what others will believe, has been lost.
This is a false argument being used by you to win your argument without presenting any substance to back up your opinion.
Yes. Your correct on the deadly wound. And the election are few, your correct.I believe we now should be watching for the deadly wound. This is not happened yet to what most people think.
That is why the elect are so few
I believe that happens when Jerusalem is surrounded and forced to surrender
Then the antichrist will have to come and fix it the deadly wound. isn’t it? A wonder why everybody thinks Israel is the chosen people when in fact, they are the most heathen God hating people on the planet. Israel is the antichrist chosen people not Jesus
What is wrong with christians
Even Trump is not a Christian most are too stupid to notice. He’s a Jew.
Daniel 2:31-40 “Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
32 This image's head was of fine gold, (1st beast) his breast and his arms of silver,(2nd beast) his belly and his thighs of brass,(3rd beast) 33 His legs of iron,(4th beast) his "feet" part of iron and part of clay. (10 toes = 10 kings)
34 Thou sawest till that a stone(Lord our Rock) was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon "his feet" that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. (10 toes=10 kings)
35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold,(all 4 beasts) broken to pieces "together",
(global 4th beast contains parts of all previous 3 beasts) and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone(Lord our Rock) that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. (Babylonian Empire= 1ST BEAST=Lion)
39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, (Medes and Persian Empire 2nd Beast= Bear)
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.(Grecian Empire of Alexander the great 3rd beast=leopard)
40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. (Roman Empire start of 4th beast)………runs all the way to the end=….. 2 feet divided kingdom with 10 subdivided toes=10 kings=10 horns…….
.Daniel 2:41-44 “And whereas thou sawest "the feet" and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be “divided;”but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
42 And as “the toes”of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
44 And in the days of these kings (10 toes=10 horns) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume "all these kingdoms", and it shall stand for ever.”
Ok now, Look at the 4th beast leading up to the "feet" and 10 toes=10 horns=10 kings shown in ….
Daniel 7:7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a "fourth beast", dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with "the feet" of it: (bears feet Rev 13:2) and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. (10 toes=10 kings)
Now to the 10 kings in Revelation 17:12“And the ten horns which thou sawest are "ten kings", which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”
And I believe we are even given a foreshadowing of the 10 kings here in ….Psalm 83:1-8 “Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with "one consent": (one mind) they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom,(#1) and the Ishmaelites;(#2) of Moab, (#3)and the Hagarenes;(#4)
7 Gebal,(#5) and Ammon, (#6)and Amalek;(#7) the Philistines(#8) with the inhabitants of Tyre;(#9)
8 Assur (#10) also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.”
10 kings are given "one mind" (one consent) as shown above….
Revelation 17:13 “These have "one mind", and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.”
Ishmaelites=Islam Edom=Esau and contain all the children of the "flesh"
God warned the children of Israel, because they had forgotten Him, that He would be "like" these 4 beasts notice below....
Hosea 13:7 "Therefore I will be unto them as "a lion"(#1) as a "leopard"(#3) by the way will I observe them: I will meet them as "a bear"(#2) that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the "wild beast"(#4)shall tear them."
Now what is interesting is the last beast shown to Daniel in Daniel 7:7 is the "wild beast" mentioned above. It is called "dreadful and terrible" but notice in Daniel 7:7 we are told this 4th and final beast would "stamp the residue with “the feet”of it"
Daniel 7:7 "After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, "and stamped the residue with “the feet of it": and it was "diverse" from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns"
I believe the reason this 4th and final beast is different (diverse) is because it is a conglomeration of the first 3 previous beasts combined, and it is "global", being guided by "the spirit" of the Red Dragon.
But what I want you to notice is the "feet"that is said to stamp "the residue" of the people.
Keep in mind, God was talking about the flesh and blood Jews in the judgment above. The "remnant" of the Jews is the very last portion mentioned in scripture. As God often shows 3 main groups first, and the 4th and final being the "remnant".
The 4th and final beast is shown in Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a "leopard", and his feet as "the feet of a bear," and his mouth as the mouth of "a lion," and the Dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and his great authority."
So the 4th and final beast is made up of all the previous 3 beasts, but again notice the "feet".
The "feet" are the feet of the bear kingdom, which as we saw above would stamp the "residue" or the "remnant" of Israel.
This bear Kingdom as we saw above is the old Persian Empire, which today is better known as Iran. And so has been, and still is the biggest threat to the nation of Israel at this present point in time, it is Iran and all it’s allies.
So keep your eyes open, and watch! Peace and God bless
Tut. Tut. Teapots and kettles arguing with one another.I was not presenting a false argument only stating an observation of your style of posting.
The significance of the dreams of Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel are the continuity of imperial power in the region containing Israel. I agree that they are Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome. Persia represents 2 arms, and Rome represents 2 legs. Babylon was the head, but the rest of the body was bilateral in appendages. In fact, there was Media/Persia, Macedon/Greek, and East/West Rome. The feet would obviously represent East/West Rome at the end of its history.
Rome produced European Civilization, along with its law and imperial tradition. So the 10 toes represent East/West Europe, in my view. The 2 feet are therefore 5 kingdoms from W. Europe, and 5 kingdoms from E. Europe.
The role Russia plays in this I don't know? It is part of E. Europe. Whether the Americas play a role in Western Civilization I also don't know. But they aren't in W. Europe.
All of the ancient characteristics are in the 4th Kingdom of Europe. They are the leopard, bear, and lion, which are not, I think, the ancient powers they represented in Daniel, but rather, characteristics associated with these animals, which are predatory and dangerous. They are fast, strong, and stealthy.
The Beast is an empire, represented by the Roman Tradition. But there is a 2nd Beast, which may indicate a latter-day emergence of this Roman Tradition, which I call European Civilization. It gives life to the image of the ancient Roman Beast, re-forming it into a modern-day counterpart.
This image and this modern-day Europe are led by 2 men, the Antichrist, and the False Prophet. The fact they bring back ancient Roman paganism is attractive to those turning away from the Christian tradition. It may appear as a form of miraculous resurrection, indicating God approves of this form of paganism, which, of course, is absurd.
This is all speculative on my part. I'm trying to work it out with the Lord's help. I'm open to any and all input that takes God's word seriously.
In the news….
US: Iranian Attack on Israel Could Be Worse Than April Assault
According to the sources, the Pentagon has consulted with U.S. Central Command on adjustments to American military deployments in the region, adding that no final decision was made as of Thursday afternoon.
Iran’s attack could be launched in the “coming days,” the officials said.
The Lebanese Al-Akhbar daily, which is close to Iran’s Hezbollah terrorist proxy, reported on Friday that the assault will involve Tehran’s entire “Axis of Resistance,” which includes Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Yemen’s Houthis, and other regional terrorist groups.
In a call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday, President Joe Biden “reaffirmed” Washington’s backing for Jerusalem’s security, vowing to support it against “all threats from Iran, including its proxy terrorist groups Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis.”(end quote)
Looks like all out war with Iran and it’s proxies is coming soon.
Tut. Tut. Teapots and kettles arguing with one another.
PS: Your vessel is far blacker than his when it comes to the things you accuse him of, IMHO.
I would remain quiet if I were you.
I also pulled him up about that in his other thread.You may be right, about the teapots and kettles arguing with one and other.
But my observation that His claiming that the HS showed him his understanding is a false argument often used to win an argument by many without any other substance to back it up.
The usual logic employed by your friend is that He is always right.
Well thank you. No my opinion but anyway ..Now in my opinion the nations with dominion over the Land of Babylon are:
1. Babylon/the Chaldeans.
2. The Medes and the Persians
3. The Grecian empire/empires
Now there is a period of around 2,000 years, somewhere between 100 BC to 1926 AD, where Babylon lay devasted and desolated at the hand of the Seleucid Greek Empire who disburse the people of Babylon throughout their empire.
4. In 1926 the nation of Iraq was formed to have dominion over the Land of Babylon by the British and the French Nations after WW1.
5. In 2003 the Coalition of the Willing lead by the USA invaded Iraq and established their dominion over the Land of Babylon
All of the above nations having dominion over the Land of Babylon can be discerned from the scriptures and history.
As for Daniel 7, the five beasts are wicked heavenly host who are able to influence different people groups, kingdoms, Nations and Empires to do their bidding to achieve the outcomes which shows the dominate characteristic of the respective five heavenly hosts.
But the above information may be difficult for many to comprehend.
Shalom
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The feet of the bear that belongs to the beast in Revelation 13 is a spiritual metaphor linked to the characteristic of the Persian Empire of Daniel's day. The beast of Revelation 13 is the antichrist of our day, sharing that same characteristic. That characteristic was seen expressed in Daniel 6:8,12,15. What spiritual entity today believes its laws/ statutes cannot be changed, or altered, once written and signed by its ruler, and yet having even the power and authority to change even divine law?Daniel 2:31-40 “Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
32 This image's head was of fine gold, (1st beast) his breast and his arms of silver,(2nd beast) his belly and his thighs of brass,(3rd beast) 33 His legs of iron,(4th beast) his "feet" part of iron and part of clay. (10 toes = 10 kings)
34 Thou sawest till that a stone(Lord our Rock) was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon "his feet" that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. (10 toes=10 kings)
35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold,(all 4 beasts) broken to pieces "together",
(global 4th beast contains parts of all previous 3 beasts) and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone(Lord our Rock) that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. (Babylonian Empire= 1ST BEAST=Lion)
39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, (Medes and Persian Empire 2nd Beast= Bear)
and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.(Grecian Empire of Alexander the great 3rd beast=leopard)
40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. (Roman Empire start of 4th beast)………runs all the way to the end=….. 2 feet divided kingdom with 10 subdivided toes=10 kings=10 horns…….
.Daniel 2:41-44 “And whereas thou sawest "the feet" and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be “divided;”but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
42 And as “the toes”of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
44 And in the days of these kings (10 toes=10 horns) shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume "all these kingdoms", and it shall stand for ever.”
Ok now, Look at the 4th beast leading up to the "feet" and 10 toes=10 horns=10 kings shown in ….
Daniel 7:7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a "fourth beast", dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with "the feet" of it: (bears feet Rev 13:2) and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. (10 toes=10 kings)
Now to the 10 kings in Revelation 17:12“And the ten horns which thou sawest are "ten kings", which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”
And I believe we are even given a foreshadowing of the 10 kings here in ….Psalm 83:1-8 “Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with "one consent": (one mind) they are confederate against thee:
6 The tabernacles of Edom,(#1) and the Ishmaelites;(#2) of Moab, (#3)and the Hagarenes;(#4)
7 Gebal,(#5) and Ammon, (#6)and Amalek;(#7) the Philistines(#8) with the inhabitants of Tyre;(#9)
8 Assur (#10) also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.”
10 kings are given "one mind" (one consent) as shown above….
Revelation 17:13 “These have "one mind", and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.”
Ishmaelites=Islam Edom=Esau and contain all the children of the "flesh"
God warned the children of Israel, because they had forgotten Him, that He would be "like" these 4 beasts notice below....
Hosea 13:7 "Therefore I will be unto them as "a lion"(#1) as a "leopard"(#3) by the way will I observe them: I will meet them as "a bear"(#2) that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the "wild beast"(#4)shall tear them."
Now what is interesting is the last beast shown to Daniel in Daniel 7:7 is the "wild beast" mentioned above. It is called "dreadful and terrible" but notice in Daniel 7:7 we are told this 4th and final beast would "stamp the residue with “the feet”of it"
Daniel 7:7 "After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, "and stamped the residue with “the feet of it": and it was "diverse" from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns"
I believe the reason this 4th and final beast is different (diverse) is because it is a conglomeration of the first 3 previous beasts combined, and it is "global", being guided by "the spirit" of the Red Dragon.
But what I want you to notice is the "feet"that is said to stamp "the residue" of the people.
Keep in mind, God was talking about the flesh and blood Jews in the judgment above. The "remnant" of the Jews is the very last portion mentioned in scripture. As God often shows 3 main groups first, and the 4th and final being the "remnant".
The 4th and final beast is shown in Revelation 13:2 "And the beast which I saw was like unto a "leopard", and his feet as "the feet of a bear," and his mouth as the mouth of "a lion," and the Dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and his great authority."
So the 4th and final beast is made up of all the previous 3 beasts, but again notice the "feet".
The "feet" are the feet of the bear kingdom, which as we saw above would stamp the "residue" or the "remnant" of Israel.
This bear Kingdom as we saw above is the old Persian Empire, which today is better known as Iran. And so has been, and still is the biggest threat to the nation of Israel at this present point in time, it is Iran and all it’s allies.
So keep your eyes open, and watch! Peace and God bless