Spiritual Pride???

[Karl Peters]

The pastor at the church I was at this last weekend briefly brought up "spiritual pride", right before he gave a nice little but unspectacular testimony. I like the testimony but wondered why he even brought up spiritual pride. All he said was that he heard the Lord tell him to talk to someone, but nothing about anything amazing happening. Is even saying we heard from the Lord some type of spiritual pride?

I liked the pastor, but later I had to start up a conversation with the Lord. Maybe me telling you about it is "spiritual pride" but I will risk it, especially after what the Lord told me, and considering that He asked me to post about this on this Christian forum.

When I asked about this the Lord my God Jesus Christ quickly responded through His Holy Spirit to my spirit in words. He said to me, "Karl is pride telling other about Me and what I can do, or is pride thinking you can do God's work without Me and what I can do?"

Think about that for a minute - that is what He had me doing.

Now I will tell you that He then went on and cover this quite a bit more with me. He pointed out that a spirit of pride tells you that you don't need God, that you don't need to listen to Him. that you don't need the Kingdom of God that He makes available to believers, that you don't need the gifts that the Holy Spirit has available for you, and that you can do it all and figure it all out by yourself!

It was an interesting thing about that church. They tell you that we can hear from God, but the testimonies are short in coming. The gifts are not to be seen. The Lord was telling me that there were a lot of hurting people there, but nobody was getting prayer up front or really anywhere that I could see. They did flash a brief sign that the front was open, but it was in small print and you would miss it if you didn't read quickly.

Still, I drag (or so it seemed) someone to the front that the Lord spoke to me favorably about, and I did get some prayer and a little conversation. This was a Christian church, to be sure. They did have good messages there (I have been there serval times, per the instructions of my Lord). After 15 years at one Christian church the Lord has been telling me that He is going to move me, and has had be checking out other Christian churches in my area. This one is ok, but feels kind of dry to me (if you know what I mean). He tells me that He can use me there, but I am more a Charismatic Christain. and tend to feel more at home in a charismatic church. Still, even the church I spent my last 15 years in was a very conservative Charismatic Christian church. That is to say if you really want to find the Holy Spirit moving even in that church you would have to wind up in the back rooms and with a rather small group. That is where the miracles tended to take place. Yet even that conservative Charismatic church had a lot of prayer available and going on up front after service. Some five years before that church I was at a Charismatic church where if you went up for prayer you would probably wind up wiped out on the floor and would feel a strong presence of God for a couple of days later.

So, was the church where God did incredible things up front the "prideful church", or was the church where prayer was being done up front regularly though you couldn't tell if anything had happened the 'prideful church', or is the church where there is none or almost no prayer up front and who seem to think even telling others God told you something the 'prideful church'?

They were all Christian churches! I am sure about that! But which one has the most spiritual pride??

I have to go with what I was told by the Lord my God, whom I believe and have reason to believe is Jesus Christ!

If you are thinking that you can do the work of God best without God and His Kingdom and His gifts, then you are the one into spiritual pride!

 

[MA2444]

The pastor at the church I was at this last weekend briefly brought up "spiritual pride", right before he gave a nice little but unspectacular testimony. I like the testimony but wondered why he even brought up spiritual pride. All he said was that he heard the Lord tell him to talk to someone, but nothing about anything amazing happening. Is even saying we heard from the Lord some type of spiritual pride?

I liked the pastor, but later I had to start up a conversation with the Lord. Maybe me telling you about it is "spiritual pride" but I will risk it, especially after what the Lord told me, and considering that He asked me to post about this on this Christian forum.

When I asked about this the Lord my God Jesus Christ quickly responded through His Holy Spirit to my spirit in words. He said to me, "Karl is pride telling other about Me and what I can do, or is pride thinking you can do God's work without Me and what I can do?"

Think about that for a minute - that is what He had me doing.

Now I will tell you that He then went on and cover this quite a bit more with me. He pointed out that a spirit of pride tells you that you don't need God, that you don't need to listen to Him. that you don't need the Kingdom of God that He makes available to believers, that you don't need the gifts that the Holy Spirit has available for you, and that you can do it all and figure it all out by yourself!

It was an interesting thing about that church. They tell you that we can hear from God, but the testimonies are short in coming. The gifts are not to be seen. The Lord was telling me that there were a lot of hurting people there, but nobody was getting prayer up front or really anywhere that I could see. They did flash a brief sign that the front was open, but it was in small print and you would miss it if you didn't read quickly.

Still, I drag (or so it seemed) someone to the front that the Lord spoke to me favorably about, and I did get some prayer and a little conversation. This was a Christian church, to be sure. They did have good messages there (I have been there serval times, per the instructions of my Lord). After 15 years at one Christian church the Lord has been telling me that He is going to move me, and has had be checking out other Christian churches in my area. This one is ok, but feels kind of dry to me (if you know what I mean). He tells me that He can use me there, but I am more a Charismatic Christain. and tend to feel more at home in a charismatic church. Still, even the church I spent my last 15 years in was a very conservative Charismatic Christian church. That is to say if you really want to find the Holy Spirit moving even in that church you would have to wind up in the back rooms and with a rather small group. That is where the miracles tended to take place. Yet even that conservative Charismatic church had a lot of prayer available and going on up front after service. Some five years before that church I was at a Charismatic church where if you went up for prayer you would probably wind up wiped out on the floor and would feel a strong presence of God for a couple of days later.

So, was the church where God did incredible things up front the "prideful church", or was the church where prayer was being done up front regularly though you couldn't tell if anything had happened the 'prideful church', or is the church where there is none or almost no prayer up front and who seem to think even telling others God told you something the 'prideful church'?

They were all Christian churches! I am sure about that! But which one has the most spiritual pride??

I have to go with what I was told by the Lord my God, whom I believe and have reason to believe is Jesus Christ!

If you are thinking that you can do the work of God best without God and His Kingdom and His gifts, then you are the one into spiritual pride!

I hear you Brother. I got a very similar lesson about pride. Lots of that ring bells for me. A little while back I was sharing my different testimonies a lot and somehow I got the feeling that I was bragging and prolly shouldn't share so much. Then the Lord taught me those things He taught you! So I started sharing again and I dont care if everyone doesnt believe me. If my testimony touches one or two people who have ears to hear, then I did my job today! Praise the Lord!

 

[Karl Peters]

Often, maybe even normally, when the Lord gives me a teaching He expands on it. Today, during my time with the Lord in the morning, He did such a thing and asked me to expand on the post, also. He took me to Deuteronomy 8.

Deut 8:13,14 and when your herds and your flocks multiply, and your silver and gold multiply, and all that you have multiplies,
then your heart will become proud and you will forget the LORD your God who brought you out from the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

Now in the USA many if not most of us do pretty well relative to other countries of this world. In that case there is a tendency for Christians to become proud and forget the Lord our God and all the things He can do, just like the Israelites did, and was foretold that they would do. God can and does do miracles, signs, and wonders. So, if they have dried up in our Christian churches, was that not a clear indication that we have forgot about God because our hearts have become prideful?

So in that church I talked about in the OP, which was surely a Christian church, and the pastor clearly said to listen to the Lord and obey Him, from the podium, there was not much if any prayer going on up front after service. And one of the two people I meet that was involved in praying for people upfront, if any happen to go up there, told me that to hear from the Lord she asked and would feel she got the answer about three days later. That was not what there pastor had explained from the front. He explained that he heard from the Lord while randomly walking about and instantly did what he was told. That was his testimony on that day. Which brings me back to the Lord's teaching this morning, because also in Deut 8 it is written:

Deut 8:19,20 “It shall come about if you ever forget the LORD your God and go after other gods and serve them and worship them, I testify against you today that you will surely perish.
“Like the nations that the LORD makes to perish before you, so you shall perish; because you would not listen to the voice of the LORD your God.

And that finished off that chapter. That is a very scarry thing, is it not? That if we get into pride so we forget about the Lord our God and then go after other gods, we shall surely perish because we would not listen to His voice!!!

And note - as this was pointed out to me also - that Moses - their pastor or leader, so to speak, was hearing the Lord and telling them to listen and obey, and that was a huge flock, was it not. And while Moses listened and obeyed, like their pastor listened and obeyed, it did not mean the flock did the same. Indeed Moses told them what was going to happen to them and it did, except for a remnant.

And one last thing He pointed out to me, and that was that the next chapter started off with these three words:

Deut 9:1 Hear, O Israel!

I put it to you, based upon what I am hearing. That if your church is not see miracles, signs and wonders, you might be at a Christian church which is full of pride, who even if they are being taught to listen and obey, they might not actually be doing it? They might have gotten comfortable in their seats, unwilling to seek prayer, the Lord our God, His Kingdom of power, and the gifts the Holy Spirit has for them. And so even if they point the figure at others who do listen, seek the Lord, want prayer, the Kingdom of God which is a Kingdom of Power, and the gifts the Holy Spirit wants to give them, it might be a case of when you point one finger at others you point more at yourself.

We all have to watch out for pride. We all need to seek the Lord our God for wisdom, understanding and knowledge, instead of just leaning on our own understanding. But if you are the one not seeking the Lord our God Jesus Christ, not listening to Him, not even picking up His voice till three days later when it is written "Today, if you hear His voice", and so are not getting the gifts of His Spirt that He told us to desire, like the gifts of healing, faith, distinguishing of spirits, and even various kinds of tongue (which might be the least of the gifts even though we don't know how to pray like we should, except maybe by it), then is it the spiritually gifted person who did desire the gifts of the Spirit- then you might want to reconsider what 'spiritual pride' really looks like!

Yeah - It is not about the gifts of the Spirit, those will go away after the first death, will they not, but if we know Jesus Christ and listen to Him and He sends His Holy Spirit and His Kingdom for help us, is it not you, who tell yourself you don't need the Lord and what He has to help you, who is into pride?

 

[Heart2Soul]

I hear you Brother. I got a very similar lesson about pride. Lots of that ring bells for me. A little while back I was sharing my different testimonies a lot and somehow I got the feeling that I was bragging and prolly shouldn't share so much. Then the Lord taught me those things He taught you! So I started sharing again and I dont care if everyone doesnt believe me. If my testimony touches one or two people who have ears to hear, then I did my job today! Praise the Lord!

Same with me. God had to humble me about how I share my testimony. And reflecting back on it I did get too prideful of what God has done in my life.

 

[Karl Peters]

Same with me. God had to humble me about how I share my testimony. And reflecting back on it I did get too prideful of what God has done in my life.

I get the question posed above. When, How, and how much should I share with other people? Should I be honest with them? How much and how often should I present what the Lord has done and is doing around me?

One of the problems I see is how Christians hide the Lord from me, and from others:

My parents took me to church when I was a child, and nobody presented the Lord as really being around today. Oh, He might do something vague a little here or there, if you prayed, but don't expect it. And hearing from Him was a thing in the past for the prophets of old. That was what I picked up around the churches my parents took me to, and there were churches as in several.

So, when the Lord started doing things in my life it completely surprised me, and had me worried that it couldn't be the Lord. When I started talking and conversing back and forth with the Lord, I had to worry that this was not Him, but the devil. And it was not just a case of testing the spirits, but that anything I heard in the Spirit was from the devil.

What really amazed me, was when I prayed for the gift of tongues and got it. It is strange, but stranger still was that I found out that my own mom had gotten the gift of tongues years earlier, like maybe 10 to 20 years earlier and had never mention it or anything about it. I started talking to her about what was happening in my life with the Lord, and my own mom was coming back with, "Oh Yeah", like she knew about all of it but didn't tell anyone about it. And she also had hide it from other she knew at the churches also, but it was real, because the Lord is real.

I remember how the Lord started waking me up in the middle of the night to talk with me, and was thinking that God would not do that. Yet when I did get to talking with Christian who really knew the Lord, they knew about it, but those who didn't know the Lord didn't know about that little thing.

I spent 15 years at a church that considered themselves to be a charismatic church, but the stuff about and a lot more was only talked about with an select few in the back rooms of the church. The didn't share any of this with most of the church. It wound up producing an elitest group in the back rooms of the church, which was separate from the regular members.

Why was it the Jesus said things like to shout on the house tops what you hear whispered in your ear?

Is that what we are talking about here?

And what about that part about if we are embarrassed about Him He will be embarrassed about us before His Father?

I mean, who really would like us to be quiet about our Lord Jesus Christ? Is that not what the devils want?

So is not telling people about what God does around me "false pride"? I don't do what God does around me, He does!!!!

Maybe boasting in God doesn't accomplish anything, but perhaps it might be necessary?

I am not always sure what to do. So I try and ask Him, and do what He tells me, but things often happen quickly, so I am either going to speak up or not? I am not sure, but I kind of think that if I am going to error, I want to error about telling others about Him too much than too little.

He once gave me a parable, or perhaps it was indeed a true story because He told me it was. It was about a priest back in the time of the Christian knights, where a young priest came to actually know the Lord and wound up talking with Him. The priest was a priest to the Christian knights of the time and got to know them. Some, and especially one of the them, he became a close friend to. Yet the young priest was embarrassed about actually talking about our Lord Jesus Christ and how we can actually talk to Him. The knights went off to battle and lost. Most of them wound up dead, including his friend. And when the priest got to heaven, he did not find his friend there. And so he wept and wept, and the Lord had to spend a lot of time telling him that it was not actually his fault, and showed the priest how the Lord had others tell his friend about the Lord. Still, it was not easy for the priest to accept.

Nobody is going to blame you, and the Lord is going to make sure all know, but what about you, and me? Maybe I get to aggressive, telling other about my Lord Jesus Christ and what I have seen Him do around me. But I have zeal for Him, that people should come to know Him personally, and talk to Him personally, and have conversations with Him. He is worth knowing, and failure to know Him might mean a second death to others. So do you really want to hold back the information we have from knowing Him?

Maybe I get it wrong. Maybe I come across prideful to others. But it is not about me, it is about Him!! It is Him, my Lord Jesus Christ, whose name is called "The Word of God", because He speaks to those willing to listen to Him! And He said all those who seek find, so I am going to continue to tell others to seek Him, and listen to Him! And I am not so willing to be apologetic for that!! It means life to them!

 

[Angelina]

I think that we can all fall into that trap of being spiritaully prideful, especially when God has blessed us in our walk with him and given us many gifts. Sometimes we can think that we have the corner market on the Holy Sprit but we don't. God leads each person in their journey with him and our journey's are not the same, so we don't need to measure ourselves up against others who have similar gifts. The real outcome I believe, is in the fruit that bears from the gifts God gives us. Spiritual pride only reveals to us that we are still walking in our flesh (old man or old self).

Angelina

 

[MA2444]

I get the question posed above. When, How, and how much should I share with other people? Should I be honest with them? How much and how often should I present what the Lord has done and is doing around me?

One of the problems I see is how Christians hide the Lord from me, and from others:

My parents took me to church when I was a child, and nobody presented the Lord as really being around today. Oh, He might do something vague a little here or there, if you prayed, but don't expect it. And hearing from Him was a thing in the past for the prophets of old. That was what I picked up around the churches my parents took me to, and there were churches as in several.

So, when the Lord started doing things in my life it completely surprised me, and had me worried that it couldn't be the Lord. When I started talking and conversing back and forth with the Lord, I had to worry that this was not Him, but the devil. And it was not just a case of testing the spirits, but that anything I heard in the Spirit was from the devil.

What really amazed me, was when I prayed for the gift of tongues and got it. It is strange, but stranger still was that I found out that my own mom had gotten the gift of tongues years earlier, like maybe 10 to 20 years earlier and had never mention it or anything about it. I started talking to her about what was happening in my life with the Lord, and my own mom was coming back with, "Oh Yeah", like she knew about all of it but didn't tell anyone about it. And she also had hide it from other she knew at the churches also, but it was real, because the Lord is real.

I remember how the Lord started waking me up in the middle of the night to talk with me, and was thinking that God would not do that. Yet when I did get to talking with Christian who really knew the Lord, they knew about it, but those who didn't know the Lord didn't know about that little thing.

I spent 15 years at a church that considered themselves to be a charismatic church, but the stuff about and a lot more was only talked about with an select few in the back rooms of the church. The didn't share any of this with most of the church. It wound up producing an elitest group in the back rooms of the church, which was separate from the regular members.

Why was it the Jesus said things like to shout on the house tops what you hear whispered in your ear?

Is that what we are talking about here?

And what about that part about if we are embarrassed about Him He will be embarrassed about us before His Father?

I mean, who really would like us to be quiet about our Lord Jesus Christ? Is that not what the devils want?

So is not telling people about what God does around me "false pride"? I don't do what God does around me, He does!!!!

Maybe boasting in God doesn't accomplish anything, but perhaps it might be necessary?

I am not always sure what to do. So I try and ask Him, and do what He tells me, but things often happen quickly, so I am either going to speak up or not? I am not sure, but I kind of think that if I am going to error, I want to error about telling others about Him too much than too little.

He once gave me a parable, or perhaps it was indeed a true story because He told me it was. It was about a priest back in the time of the Christian knights, where a young priest came to actually know the Lord and wound up talking with Him. The priest was a priest to the Christian knights of the time and got to know them. Some, and especially one of the them, he became a close friend to. Yet the young priest was embarrassed about actually talking about our Lord Jesus Christ and how we can actually talk to Him. The knights went off to battle and lost. Most of them wound up dead, including his friend. And when the priest got to heaven, he did not find his friend there. And so he wept and wept, and the Lord had to spend a lot of time telling him that it was not actually his fault, and showed the priest how the Lord had others tell his friend about the Lord. Still, it was not easy for the priest to accept.

Nobody is going to blame you, and the Lord is going to make sure all know, but what about you, and me? Maybe I get to aggressive, telling other about my Lord Jesus Christ and what I have seen Him do around me. But I have zeal for Him, that people should come to know Him personally, and talk to Him personally, and have conversations with Him. He is worth knowing, and failure to know Him might mean a second death to others. So do you really want to hold back the information we have from knowing Him?

Maybe I get it wrong. Maybe I come across prideful to others. But it is not about me, it is about Him!! It is Him, my Lord Jesus Christ, whose name is called "The Word of God", because He speaks to those willing to listen to Him! And He said all those who seek find, so I am going to continue to tell others to seek Him, and listen to Him! And I am not so willing to be apologetic for that!! It means life to them!

I think timing and capacity matters too. If you start speaking tongues in front of unbelievers they will think you are drunk or nuts. Their spirit doesn't have the capacity to accept certain truths yet and too much too soon could actually turn people against Him. This is true to an extent but less so as time goes on. But it's a real biblical principle that some need fed with milk and others are ready for meat.

So you just sorta have to be led by the spirit on all occasions. There are Jesus freaks in the congregation! PTL! And you say there are Super Jesus Freaks in the back rooms? That's ok I think. God is no respecter of persons but there is still rank and file also and to more who has more will be given, and to more whom is given more is required so there are no elites back there in the back room. Just some who have a bigger responsibility than was given to others.


I tell you one thing, lol. Be very sure of what you pray for, that you really want it. Once upon a time, I asked. I received, and I didn't want it as bad as I thought I did! So I'm more careful what I ask for now, lol. Everything comes with a price. If I gave you a brand new car, you would have to buy gas oil and insurance for it! Some free car eh?! It is what it is. So I'm with you on this, so what f they think I'm a nutjob?! Who cares? I am the guy who hears voices in his head...I hear...GOD. A total nutcase according to worldly standards, fit for a straight jacket now lock him up. Execute him at dawn tomorrow. Sound extreme? It's coming. The thing is, you still get your head chopped off for only standing with Jesus a little bit, so the thing to do is to walk up into the enemies face very defiant and standing for the Lord, a lot. A Super Jesus freak! We already know the world will turn against is and is already! And time is short so the game is changing because of a short time factor.

 

[Heart2Soul]

I get the question posed above. When, How, and how much should I share with other people? Should I be honest with them? How much and how often should I present what the Lord has done and is doing around me?

One of the problems I see is how Christians hide the Lord from me, and from others:

My parents took me to church when I was a child, and nobody presented the Lord as really being around today. Oh, He might do something vague a little here or there, if you prayed, but don't expect it. And hearing from Him was a thing in the past for the prophets of old. That was what I picked up around the churches my parents took me to, and there were churches as in several.

So, when the Lord started doing things in my life it completely surprised me, and had me worried that it couldn't be the Lord. When I started talking and conversing back and forth with the Lord, I had to worry that this was not Him, but the devil. And it was not just a case of testing the spirits, but that anything I heard in the Spirit was from the devil.

What really amazed me, was when I prayed for the gift of tongues and got it. It is strange, but stranger still was that I found out that my own mom had gotten the gift of tongues years earlier, like maybe 10 to 20 years earlier and had never mention it or anything about it. I started talking to her about what was happening in my life with the Lord, and my own mom was coming back with, "Oh Yeah", like she knew about all of it but didn't tell anyone about it. And she also had hide it from other she knew at the churches also, but it was real, because the Lord is real.

I remember how the Lord started waking me up in the middle of the night to talk with me, and was thinking that God would not do that. Yet when I did get to talking with Christian who really knew the Lord, they knew about it, but those who didn't know the Lord didn't know about that little thing.

I spent 15 years at a church that considered themselves to be a charismatic church, but the stuff about and a lot more was only talked about with an select few in the back rooms of the church. The didn't share any of this with most of the church. It wound up producing an elitest group in the back rooms of the church, which was separate from the regular members.

Why was it the Jesus said things like to shout on the house tops what you hear whispered in your ear?

Is that what we are talking about here?

And what about that part about if we are embarrassed about Him He will be embarrassed about us before His Father?

I mean, who really would like us to be quiet about our Lord Jesus Christ? Is that not what the devils want?

So is not telling people about what God does around me "false pride"? I don't do what God does around me, He does!!!!

Maybe boasting in God doesn't accomplish anything, but perhaps it might be necessary?

I am not always sure what to do. So I try and ask Him, and do what He tells me, but things often happen quickly, so I am either going to speak up or not? I am not sure, but I kind of think that if I am going to error, I want to error about telling others about Him too much than too little.

He once gave me a parable, or perhaps it was indeed a true story because He told me it was. It was about a priest back in the time of the Christian knights, where a young priest came to actually know the Lord and wound up talking with Him. The priest was a priest to the Christian knights of the time and got to know them. Some, and especially one of the them, he became a close friend to. Yet the young priest was embarrassed about actually talking about our Lord Jesus Christ and how we can actually talk to Him. The knights went off to battle and lost. Most of them wound up dead, including his friend. And when the priest got to heaven, he did not find his friend there. And so he wept and wept, and the Lord had to spend a lot of time telling him that it was not actually his fault, and showed the priest how the Lord had others tell his friend about the Lord. Still, it was not easy for the priest to accept.

Nobody is going to blame you, and the Lord is going to make sure all know, but what about you, and me? Maybe I get to aggressive, telling other about my Lord Jesus Christ and what I have seen Him do around me. But I have zeal for Him, that people should come to know Him personally, and talk to Him personally, and have conversations with Him. He is worth knowing, and failure to know Him might mean a second death to others. So do you really want to hold back the information we have from knowing Him?

Maybe I get it wrong. Maybe I come across prideful to others. But it is not about me, it is about Him!! It is Him, my Lord Jesus Christ, whose name is called "The Word of God", because He speaks to those willing to listen to Him! And He said all those who seek find, so I am going to continue to tell others to seek Him, and listen to Him! And I am not so willing to be apologetic for that!! It means life to them!

The main point of all of it is to listen to the Holy Spirit and be led of him to share your testimony and/or gifts with someone or just to listen and offer words of encouragement and prayer. Scripture says that some are not able to receive the things of the spirit because they are still on the milk of the Word. Those who are on the meat of the Word need to use wisdom with the ones on the mil
The main thing to know is to follow the lead of the Holy Spirit about sharing testimony or witnessing. Sometimes we just need to listen instead of talking. Remember what Paul said
1 Corinthians 3 (KJV)
¹ And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
² I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
Another scripture:
Hebrews 5 (KJV)
¹² For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
¹³ For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
¹⁴ But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Even Jesus told the disciples before He ascended that there were many more things He would like to tell them but they weren't able to bear it.
John 16 (KJV)
¹² I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
¹³ Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

 

[Karl Peters]

I think timing and capacity matters too. If you start speaking tongues in front of unbelievers they will think you are drunk or nuts. Their spirit doesn't have the capacity to accept certain truths yet and too much too soon could actually turn people against Him. This is true to an extent but less so as time goes on. But it's a real biblical principle that some need fed with milk and others are ready for meat.

So you just sorta have to be led by the spirit on all occasions. There are Jesus freaks in the congregation! PTL! And you say there are Super Jesus Freaks in the back rooms? That's ok I think. God is no respecter of persons but there is still rank and file also and to more who has more will be given, and to more whom is given more is required so there are no elites back there in the back room. Just some who have a bigger responsibility than was given to others.


I tell you one thing, lol. Be very sure of what you pray for, that you really want it. Once upon a time, I asked. I received, and I didn't want it as bad as I thought I did! So I'm more careful what I ask for now, lol. Everything comes with a price. If I gave you a brand new car, you would have to buy gas oil and insurance for it! Some free car eh?! It is what it is. So I'm with you on this, so what f they think I'm a nutjob?! Who cares? I am the guy who hears voices in his head...I hear...GOD. A total nutcase according to worldly standards, fit for a straight jacket now lock him up. Execute him at dawn tomorrow. Sound extreme? It's coming. The thing is, you still get your head chopped off for only standing with Jesus a little bit, so the thing to do is to walk up into the enemies face very defiant and standing for the Lord, a lot. A Super Jesus freak! We already know the world will turn against is and is already! And time is short so the game is changing because of a short time factor.

I really like the above post:

Many things matter on how we approach things, but the only One who can fully understand this is the Lord Himself. Of course He knows how we are, how are heart is, and He knows how to use us, and develop us. So what are we to do, but to listen to Him, go we what He tells us to the best we can, and believe that He has the understanding to make it work out for the best, because He knows what is going to happen before it happens.

Yeah - if you listen to Him and do what He ask you are going to be the peculiar person that He likes. And His enemies are not going to like you. The world is not going to understand you, but we have the best advice that can be given, which is to listen to Him.

And we learn from it all also. I mean - I don't have to speak in tongue out-loud, even when the Spirit hits me with that fire in my chest that brings on tongues. And better yet, I can always ask the Lord what the interpretation is, and I am supposed to, right?

1 Cor 14:13 Therefore let one who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret.

And if I abide in Him, does He not answer my request?

Jn 15:7 “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.

So it is easy to get an interpretation, but the interpretation is not always what you expect. Still, the interpretation comes from that still small voice of His, unless He decides to instantly change tongues into our language, which I have seen Him do.

So what do we say, except as in the post above "I am the guy who hears voices in his head...I hear...GOD".

And it right to say, "God is no respecter of persons", because it is not about me but about seeking Him and His words, right? And so "ANYONE" can talk to Him, right?

Rev 3:20 ‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

So if "ANYONE HEARS HIS VOICE" He will come into them, what pride is there is doing what anyone can do?

I don't think I am great because I can hear what is being said with my physical ears, so what pride should I have if I hear with my spiritual ears. Everyone reading this can choose to open up to Jesus Christ and start getting to know Him, but who will?

Therefore, the person with pride is the person who thinks they don't need to listen to the Lord our God, because that person thinks they are smarter that God, and that is pride indeed!!

Is it not written:

Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart
And do not lean on your own understanding.

That is what a prideful person does, they lean on their own understanding as opposed to seeking the LORD, and trusting in Him and His words, instructions, teachings, and counsel. And yeah, they might then want to accuse me of being "prideful", especially in spiritual matters, but that is not me, it is them. They honestly think their understanding of God is better than His understanding of Himself, otherwise they would open up to Him and listen to Him! Is it not written:

Mat 7:2 “For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

And so I too don't listen to the Lord as much as I should. So I judge that I, even I who tell others to listen to Him, need to listen to Him more! Which is all the more reason to encourage others to listen to Him Today, because by doing so I also encourage me to listen to Him more Today, right? Is that not why it is written:

Heb 3:13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.

If you encourage each other to listen to Him Today, do you not also encourage yourself to do likewise?

So yeah, like written in the above post "I'm with you on this, so what f they think I'm a nutjob?! Who cares? I am the guy who hears voices in his head...I hear...GOD."

And that continues because I have figured out that by encouraging others to hear from Him, I also encourage myself to hear from Him. And since everyone can hear from Him there is no pride in it, but perhaps there is wisdom in it, right?

Prov 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

And I can use whatever wisdom I can come up with, right?