So what does the divinity of Jesus really mean, anyway?

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brightfame52

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After what I wrote, explaining it all to you this is what you come back with? Wrong. Totally wrong. Jn 1:1,14 does not say this one little bit.

It's telling that you subordinate Jesus words to your eisegesis; the Father is the only true God. What does this say about the trinitarian god?
Poster, you cant explain away truth Jn 1:1,14 you just showing your unbelief
 

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Poster, you cant explain away truth Jn 1:1,14 you just showing your unbelief
I already did in Post #127. How about you explain away truth in Jesus saying the Father is the only true God. And answering the question of what does this say about the trinitarian god?
 

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I believe what the scripture says and means with much examination and unbiased. You however, believe what you have consciously or not inserted into it, that form a new exotic meaning for your model of belief.

Moving on...
Yeah move on because you sure dont believe scripture that Jesus the word is God Jn 1:1,14
 

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I already did in Post #127. How about you explain away truth in Jesus saying the Father is the only true God. And answering the question of what does this say about the trinitarian god?
You showed your unbelief of Jn 1:1,14
 

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Correct. I do not believe what Scripture does not teach. The Father is the only true God. What does this say about the Trinitarian god? Why don't you believe Jesus?
Yeah move on because you sure dont believe scripture that Jesus the word is God Jn 1:1,14
 

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Correct. I do not believe what Scripture does not teach. The Father is the only true God. What does this say about the Trinitarian god? Why don't you believe Jesus?
If Jesus was fully God, then why is he sat at his Father’s right hand, as scripture says.i wish a trinitarian would answer that question.

As Hebrews 10:12-13 notes, “But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.” Because Jesus reigns along with God the Father Almighty who created and rules over the world, the ..

Mark 16:19
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After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God.

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When the Lord Jesus had finished talking with them, he was taken up into heaven and sat down in the place of honor at God’s right hand.

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So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

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After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

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Therefore indeed the Lord Jesus, after speaking to them, was taken up into the heaven and sat at the right hand of God.

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So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

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So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.

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So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

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So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

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So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.

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So then, the Lord Jesus, after He had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

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So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.

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So the Lord Jesus, after speaking to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God
 

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@Wrangler

No verse says Jesus is the word.

Yet scripture testifies He is. So who is this ? Jn 1:14

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Is Jesus the only begotten of the Father according to scripture
 

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Jesus I believe is the only begotten Son Of God...because of Jesus death and resurrection, we are Gods adopted children, when our spirit becomes Born Again/ regenerated...Jesus is the first fruit, of many...he is my Brother and God is my Spirit Father...that’s my belief anyway...just my thoughts..I’m not arguing over it....I’ve been warned by God about arguing...so,I am staying quiet.

Can someone please help me to understand, that if Jesus was fully God, why is he sitting at his Father’s right hand?
 

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Yet scripture testifies He is.
To finish the thought scripture testifies Jesus is the king awaited anointed by God expected man among the people of Israel, who is the prophet Moses told us about Deut 15:15-18, John 1:1,14,21, 45. There is only one God, the Father. I wonder why Scripture would testify to this and what does it say about the Trinity God?
 

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To finish the thought scripture testifies Jesus is the king awaited anointed by God expected man among the people of Israel, who is the prophet Moses told us about Deut 15:15-18, John 1:1,14,21, 45. There is only one God, the Father. I wonder why Scripture would testify to this and what does it say about the Trinity God?
Jn 1:1,14 You dont believe scripture
 

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Well what does the divinity of God really mean, anyway, to one who is not a Unitarian, who is
a 'xxxxxx-arian' of some other sort!


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Let me finally set the record straight and answer the OP as no one has, thus far
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Most if not all clergy, noted scholars and learned folks, not Unitarians, believe Jesus is divine, deity and God based on these thoroughly researched facts.

Please research them if you believe I have erred.

1. That there is no explicit verse or verses of scripture that say Jesus is divine, deity or God
2. That there is only implied evidence of his full-up divinity, deity or being God.
3. These implications are mostly based on his actions, teachings and reactions around him that include:

The top 5 implications:
a. Jesus was resurrected to immortality
b. Jesus forgave sins.
c. Jesus accepted true worship
d. He was sinless
e. If the word/logos was with God and the word became, a human being and person's (voice), with a sinless internal human nature as Adam, then he was God

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Now ALL these implications can be explained away quite easily if we read in scripture and truly believe that HIS FATHER caused all of them, as the word and spirit of the Father resided within the 2nd Adam!

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So, I would seriously consider again why one would think and then believe, Jesus, the mortal man was divine, deity and God.
 
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