Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

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BeyondET

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Yes, force, but how much, against whom, and what is the end goal? It's not a simple decision, but the goal has to be solutions, not mere revenge. We are blessed in Christ if we follow the Christ-like propensity toward reconciliation and restoration. That is the way of the kingdom of Christ, and it makes practical sense. The Hatfield and McCoy scenario is exactly what Jesus was saying when he condemned the "eye-for-eye" ethic: turn the other cheek. Seek peace. The use of force can never exceed that which is required for peace. And peace requires measurements of justice between both sides.
The goal is to end the hamas occupation.

Hamas will never come to the table.
 

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The goal is to end the hamas occupation.

Hamas will never come to the table.
That would be a myopic goal not worthy of heads of state. The long vision has to be a solution. It seems we've crossed the impasse between good and evil. Sorry, bud.
 

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Your labeling compassion for terror victims in Gaza 'hamas like' is a cheap deflection attempt
All Israel is not saved now, but the few who are left alive one day will be saved. God has not turned ungodliness away from them yet, of course
Yes I can see, you're pro Hamas/Satan that started all this and beheads babies for the fun of it.
 

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You sadly don't realize hamas doesn't want peace.
Did I say they did? Or that I care what they want?
If they have a command post in a apartment building blow it up.
One can say there was probably one there after they blew up the apartment. We are supposed to believe it? What floor was it on? Was it inhabited? Were there weapons there? Proof? If you could do all that, the question still remains why blow up an apartment full of kids if the only unit in suspicion was # 202? No. You can't blow up an apartment full of people because a terrorist fired a mobile missile off the roof 6 months ago. (or you claim he did)
Isreal didn't bomb a fully occupied building. They were warned it was coming. Civilians got out
Not 'a' building, but building after building after building after building! The so called warnings are about as good as a terrorist tossing a grenade in your hallway and saying you have 29 seconds to get out. 'See, that was fair, we gave warning'.
 

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Are you the tooth fairy?
No, I'm an Israel lover! I love Jesus, King of the Jews! Why do you attack Israel just like Hamas/Satan? Why do you want to curse yourself and your loved ones? That's what Satan would do!
 

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No, I'm an Israel lover! I love Jesus, King of the Jews! Why do you attack Israel just like Hamas/Satan? Why do you want to curse yourself and your loved ones? That's what Satan would do!
The barbarism that the unsaved nation of Israel is inflicting on a huge population of civilians is terrorism and mass murder of unarmed people. You trying to use Hamas as an excuse for the slaughter is evil. Jesus is not King in Israel, Don't lie
 

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The barbarism that the unsaved nation of Israel is inflicting on a huge population of civilians is terrorism and mass murder of unarmed people. You trying to use Hamas as an excuse for the slaughter is evil
You sound just like Hamas. Can you say 'God bless Israel'?

GOD BLESS ISRAEL!
 

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You sound just like Hamas. Can you say 'God bless Israel'?
I can pray God protects it's neighbors from their slaughter. As Christians should do. When it comes to one terrorist or the other, sorry, pray not for them, God won't hear it.
 

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I can pray God protects it's neighbors from their slaughter. As Christians should do. When it comes to one terrorist or the other, sorry, pray not for them, God won't hear it.
But you can't say 'GOD BLESS ISRAEL'!

Matthew 2
6 'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd My people Israel.' "

Spoken LONG after Israel forsook God!
 

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But you can't say 'GOD BLESS ISRAEL'!

Matthew 2
6 'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, Are not the least among the rulers of Judah; For out of you shall come a Ruler Who will shepherd My people Israel.' "

Spoken LONG after Israel forsook God!
God bless Jews who don't just say they are Jews but do lie. God will bless them when they get saved, obviously not now. On the contrary, He is on the side of the oppressed and the children. I would not more imagine that God would bless terrorism on the Israeli side than on the Hamas side.
Yes out of Bethlehem Jesus came. And Jesus will rule the earth one day. Not sure how you think that helps your attempted justification of mass murder of children?
 

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God bless Jews who don't just say they are Jews but do lie. God will bless them when they get saved, obviously not now. On the contrary, He is on the side of the oppressed and the children. I would not more imagine that God would bless terrorism on the Israeli side than on the Hamas side.
Yes out of Bethlehem Jesus came. And Jesus will rule the earth one day. Not sure how you think that helps your attempted justification of mass murder of children?
You can't say 'GOD BLESS ISRAEL"?
 

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You can't say 'GOD BLESS ISRAEL"?
No. How could He?? Pulverizing a highly populated area is not of God. Once they accept Jesus they are welcome into the family. Right now they are unbelievers trying to get some mileage out of the name and promises that they do not merit or live up to. He demands belief. To justify terrorism from them is a sin. To pray for them in their rebellion would be to sin. Yes, we pray for them to be saved so that there will be peace. That is praying for the peace of Jerusalem.
 

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No. How could He?? Pulverizing a highly populated area is not of God. Once they accept Jesus they are welcome into the family. Right now they are unbelievers trying to get some mileage out of the name and promises that they do not merit or live up to. He demands belief. To justify terrorism from them is a sin. To pray for them in their rebellion would be to sin. Yes, we pray for them to be saved so that there will be peace. That is praying for the peace of Jerusalem.
There you go folks! Dad can't say "God bless Israel"! You have cursed yourself.

Genesis 12
I will curse him who curses you;

GOD BLESS ISRAEL!
 

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That would be a myopic goal not worthy of heads of state. The long vision has to be a solution. It seems we've crossed the impasse between good and evil. Sorry, bud.
The Islamic Resistance Movement "hamas" wants an Iran type state. Its called that because they resist anything not Islamic.

Those folks are against anybody deemed an infidel, they are not for the Palestinians but another Islamic state. Where you can be killed for having a christian Bible.

Isnt so cut and dry anymore, good and evil.
 
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Did I say they did? Or that I care what they want?

One can say there was probably one there after they blew up the apartment. We are supposed to believe it? What floor was it on? Was it inhabited? Were there weapons there? Proof? If you could do all that, the question still remains why blow up an apartment full of kids if the only unit in suspicion was # 202? No. You can't blow up an apartment full of people because a terrorist fired a mobile missile off the roof 6 months ago. (or you claim he did)

Not 'a' building, but building after building after building after building! The so called warnings are about as good as a terrorist tossing a grenade in your hallway and saying you have 29 seconds to get out. 'See, that was fair, we gave warning'.

A building full of kids? So you resort to exaggeration while another country has been bombing people's homes for the last year and half.

Why all the attention on kids in one area of the world and not all of it.

Thousands of kids have been dying everyday for thousands of years. Yet what's happening in gaza is atrocious in your view, hmm
 

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Not 'a' building, but building after building after building after building! The so called warnings are about as good as a terrorist tossing a grenade in your hallway and saying you have 29 seconds to get out. 'See, that was fair, we gave warning'.
Same thing happened during WW2, lots of civilians died but it was necessary to stomp out extreme ideology. Democracy is hanging on by a thread. Communist and Islamic countries are hungry to rule the world. It's just a matter of time unfortunately. Won't be sites like this to say what's fair or not fair. China is already like that.
 
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Did they come from Turkey originally? Or were many of them from Israel and had their lands taken?

Turkey wont allow any of these Palestinians into their country.
That is Arabs, refusing to help Arabs.
Why?
For the same reason that Jordan and Syria and Sadia Arabia, wont have them.

You need to find out why .

No. Sorry. Only when God gives it to them and restores them to it.

He already gave it to Abram.

Maybe the parties should all be kinder to each other?

Tell that to the headless babies they are currently burying in Israel.=

No I mean the bombs that hit heavily populated areas including roads and apartments etc etc.

"collateral damage".. is a sad and heartbreaking situation.

But, Israel has no choice.... as Hamas hides their rocket launchers next to the heavily populated areas.

There is no peace through terrorism

You should tell that to Hamas.
You should send an email to "Allah".


Could we say the same for Israel in blowing up apartments with children in them?

Hamas puts rocket launchers in these apartments.
So, blame Hamas for the Dead Palestinians, as Israel has to stop the ROCKETS.
There is no other choice.


The issue is killing babies and children here, not some puffed up bravado about killing terrorists.

You dont understand the situation.
You are just repeating the "big lie".

So, Israel is going to Kill Hamas, and when Hamas uses their own people as a body shield, then both are going to die.
It is what it is.. as Hamas wont come out of their hiding places and fight like men.
Dont' blame Israel.