Since more children and people have been killed by Israel than in the terrorist attack, should they stop?

[Jack]

Dad never read the book .......he doesn't know where Romans is .....

You may be right!

 

[Behold]

 

[dad]

So dad, tell us what Israel should have done when Hamas beheaded 40 Israeli babies. You're so full of anti Israel opinions, tell us.

Get saved! Other than that there is no way out. The future is already written, Israel will be attacked and surrounded by armies and lose over 2/3 of their population before the end. So, how else could that be avoided but to get saved early? I think the problem needs to be addressed, not play whack o mole with the symptoms. The problem over there seems to be that a large number of people were displaced and that the prison camps are cesspools of poverty and hopelessness surrounded by barbed wire and the sea, with a bombed out airport. Etc How about tear down those walls, offer half the lands of Israel and help building farms and houses and generous reparation monies and genuine apologies? I am not sure if that would fix things, but it might be a step in the right direction. But to do anything like that would require a new heart, or turning to God and accepting their Messiah. Even if they vacated the land entirely now I suspect that there could still be repercussions in far away lands they moved to from some of the folks with oodles of relatives killed by Israel etc. So as I said there is no answer other than repentance. The future we see told to us in the bible shows that there will not be any such turning to God until the very end. Most people in Israel according to the bible will therefore die before a fraction of them all get saved in the end. That is what is unfolding.

 

[dad]

Confirmed by 1st hand observations.

Here is a test of your claim of moral equivelance. Why don't world leaders fly to Gaza for photo ops with Hamas? Because they know they are barbarians and would not make it out alive!

Why do you seek to equate Hamas with the civilians? Why would people not travel to Gaza now? I would guess that it could have something to do with heavy bombardment day and night.

 

[dad]

Agh, appeal to that great moral leader and humanitarian, Putin.

More like looking at what someone said. I try to look at the words not the people so much

If you are so opposed to IDF bombing apartment buildings, where is the pressure to get Hamas out of apartment buildings, schools, hospitals and religious buildings?

Not the way to go. Leave them alone. Either find a way to get them out of there so you can kill them fair and square or forget about it.

Where are the Imams's demand that all Jihadi's leave such sanctuaries out of concern for Palestinian civilians? What a horrible propagandist, you are!

Good question. But I think religious fanatics generally may be part of the problem, not the solution

If only Hitler had hid in an apartment building, he would have been spared by the Red Army you think?

Was the apartment in Argentina?

 

[Wrangler]

Why do you seek to equate Hamas with the civilians? Why would people not travel to Gaza now? I would guess that it could have something to do with heavy bombardment day and night.

My question about visiting Hamas and their Iranian financiers was before the ground invasion began. Biden made a photo op stop in Israel but not Gaza. That's sounds like inequality to me.

Why do I seek to equate Hamas with the civilians? 1st, I am not equating them. 2nd, they are the political party in power over Gaza, having displaced the previous terrorist group, PLO. 3rd, in WWII, do you think only the Emperor of Japan and not the civilians suffered in the war? Do you think only Hitler and the Nazi's suffered and not the German population at large.

You seem so naive, that war is like a surgery that only the leadership can be taken out. Real war is messy and there is always collateral damage. The refrain of not going after civilians is a modern day fiction. I've stated several times that in history civilians were the primary targets AND Hamas showed that remains the case today.

It's pathetic that you give the terrorists a pass for killing civilians, cavaliarly brushing it off. Meh, their terrorists. As if the civilized world does not owe a response that ends the war they started.

 

[Wrangler]

More like looking at what someone said. I try to look at the words not the people so much

Of all the lies you've put forth in this thread, this is the biggest lie. All you do is look at the Israeli people as victimizers and not victims.

 

[Wrangler]

Not the way to go. Leave them alone. Either find a way to get them out of there so you can kill them fair and square or forget about it.

Who the blank are you to dictate to the sovereign people of Israel?

Your one-way morals show a complete ignorance of what war is.

That you are an Islamic apologist is seen in this post. "Not the way to go" in pressuring Hamas to vacate civilian population centers?! Your selective moral outrage cannot withstand scrutiny! Disgusting that you are OK with Palestinians casualties as long as a way can be find to blame anyone but Islamic Jihadi's!

 

[dad]

My question about visiting Hamas and their Iranian financiers was before the ground invasion began. Biden made a photo op stop in Israel but not Gaza. That's sounds like inequality to me.

If Putin visited the USA he might not visit alcatraz

Why do I seek to equate Hamas with the civilians? 1st, I am not equating them. 2nd, they are the political party in power over Gaza, having displaced the previous terrorist group, PLO. 3rd, in WWII, do you think only the Emperor of Japan and not the civilians suffered in the war? Do you think only Hitler and the Nazi's suffered and not the German population at large.

Many suffered but I don't agree with targeting civilians

You seem so naive, that war is like a surgery that only the leadership can be taken out. Real war is messy and there is always collateral damage. The refrain of not going after civilians is a modern day fiction. I've stated several times that in history civilians were the primary targets AND Hamas showed that remains the case today.

Still, targeting highly populated areas is bad

It's pathetic that you give the terrorists a pass for killing civilians, cavaliarly brushing it off. Meh, their terrorists. As if the civilized world does not owe a response that ends the war they started.

No they get no pass. But in looking at the attack on Gaza in this thread, that is not the topic

 

[Triumph1300]

You can believe terrorism and mass killing of civilians if honky dory all you like

Well, I never said such a thing.
You are to dumb to understand what people are saying.
But you have a good day and enjoy the thread.

 

[dad]

Well, I never said such a thing.
You are to dumb to understand what people are saying.
But you have a good day and enjoy the thread.

You either are for or against the mass killings in Gaza. Nothing to do with smart or dumb

 

[Wrangler]

Still, targeting highly populated areas is bad

Such is war.

 

[Wrangler]

But in looking at the attack on Gaza in this thread, that is not the topic

The attack on Gaza is a reaction. You just want to give the initiator a pass. There would be no war if Hamas did not do what they did on Oct 7.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Whats unreal is you totally misrepresented what he said, then said unreal

Who started this conflict?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Who started this conflict?

HAMAS

 

[Jack]

Get saved! Other than that there is no way out. The future is already written, Israel will be attacked and surrounded by armies and lose over 2/3 of their population before the end. So, how else could that be avoided but to get saved early? I think the problem needs to be addressed, not play whack o mole with the symptoms. The problem over there seems to be that a large number of people were displaced and that the prison camps are cesspools of poverty and hopelessness surrounded by barbed wire and the sea, with a bombed out airport. Etc How about tear down those walls, offer half the lands of Israel and help building farms and houses and generous reparation monies and genuine apologies? I am not sure if that would fix things, but it might be a step in the right direction. But to do anything like that would require a new heart, or turning to God and accepting their Messiah. Even if they vacated the land entirely now I suspect that there could still be repercussions in far away lands they moved to from some of the folks with oodles of relatives killed by Israel etc. So as I said there is no answer other than repentance. The future we see told to us in the bible shows that there will not be any such turning to God until the very end. Most people in Israel according to the bible will therefore die before a fraction of them all get saved in the end. That is what is unfolding.

So you're saying Israel should have repented when Hamas beheaded Israeli babies. lol

You still didn't answer my question. What should have Israel done when Hamas beheaded Israeli babies?

 

[Wrangler]

Still, targeting highly populated areas is bad

Cowardice Islamic Jihadi’s using human shields is bad, EVIL, in fact.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Cowardice Islamic Jihadi’s using human shields is bad, EVIL, in fact.

Israel can’t cease fire. if they did Hamas would win, they would remain in power. They would just re-arm, Israel could not move back into those neighborhoods where they were slaughtered so those neighborhoods would just die. And they could not trust her government anymore. Because their government not only allowed them to be slaughtered, rape and beheaded.. They did nto do enough to stop it

 

[Truthnightmare]

HAMAS

HAMAS formed in late 1987 at the beginning of the first Palestinian intifada (uprising). Its roots are in the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and it is supported by a robust sociopolitical structure inside the Palestinian Territories

The 1948 Arab–Israeli War, also known as the First Arab–Israeli War, followed the civil war in Mandatory Palestine as the second and final stage of the 1948 Palestine war.

So Hamas started the conflict, even before Hamas was formed.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

HAMAS formed in late 1987 at the beginning of the first Palestinian intifada (uprising). Its roots are in the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, and it is supported by a robust sociopolitical structure inside the Palestinian Territories

The 1948 Arab–Israeli War, also known as the First Arab–Israeli War, followed the civil war in Mandatory Palestine as the second and final stage of the 1948 Palestine war.

So Hamas started the conflict, even before Hamas was formed.

Sorry Bro

Hamas started it 3 weeks ago when they entered Israel, raped women, Burned babies. Shot parents in front of their kids. Put babies in micro waves and turned them on (we do not know if they were alive then) Shot innocent kids as they were trying to leave a concert. Threw hand grenades into shelters when people tried to hide. Started houses on fire so their owners would leave to get away from the flames, only to shoot the as they left. And so much more

if you think Hamas was justified in doing that. You are , well lets just say not right.