Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

[David in NJ]

Like that. I consider the best defense for the divinity of Christ is not because the church inserts Him into a trinity concept, but because He is His Father's Son. Like Father, who is God, like Son, who cannot help but be the same, having inherited all the attributes of deity from His Father.
When Jesus said in reference to His Father, "the only true God", He was speaking the truth. The Father, as the creeds state, was unbegotten. His eternal nature and deity want derived from any other.
Jesus was begotten. His nature He received of His Father, yet because it was the same nature as the Father, it also was in a sense underived. And eternal. Like the Rock cut out of the mountain without hands in Daniel 2. Same nature as the mountain. The Father brought forth His Son, sent His Son to this world as a human, being the express image of Himself. This Jesus and the Father are one, and both worthy of worship.

In addition to the beautiful truth you brought out, i would add "Where was the LORD before HE came to earth as the only Begotten Son of God?"
No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. - John 1:18

Not only was HE in the Bosom of the Father before HE came to earth but also while HE was on earth.
"I and My Father are One" - John 10:30

 

[Grailhunter]

You said: "Good job! There is no doubt that there were people in the New Testament that thought that the talking serpent was Satan. Apparently it was a secret that was kept from God too? LOL He never blamed Satan for the fall of Man in the Old Testament."

Well it is common knowledge that in the Old and New Testament people believed in monsters...dragons and sea monsters. It was just what they believed back then. As far as the connection to evil....that is not a far jump.

What men believe and what is true and what God knows is two different things. If Satan was in Eden....what? ....God did not know his name. Significant event....talking serpent.....fall of Man.....was it a secret from God the Father and God the Son?

And no I do not believe in monsters and dragons and talking serpents....the symbiology of it all, I am fine with.

 

[Wrangler]

More copy-pasted strawman.

He’s quite the expert in hate. Far from the Spirit of Christ, is he. We need to pray for him.

 

[Wrangler]

Mormonism and Lucifer – Jesus’ Brother?

The LDS Position

Read this in my devotional reading today. Thought of you.

Psalm 109:2-5
New Revised Standard Version

2 For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me,
speaking against me with lying tongues.
3 They beset me with words of hate,
and attack me without cause.
4 In return for my love they accuse me,
even while I make prayer for them.
5 So they reward me evil for good,
and hatred for my love.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Agreed. Rejecting this truth is part of what I see as the feminization of Christ.

Jesus is masculine and knows many will be thrown into the Lake of Fire, even those who followed him and part since they also followed, in part, either the Adversary or their own glory.

One really don't think about it much but spirit beings are sexless. They do not marry the Bible states, but you are absolutely correct they are referred to in the male gender, and obviously their internal makeup is male, as we saw many of them taking on human bodies and marrying daughters of men.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Thank you for sharing with me your view @Robert Gwin. As not knowing this prior this has helped me understand either way that you are a Christian.

It is true that Jesus had said strait is the way. Which is tough and narrow (Matthew 7:14), and to me when a person has come to terms with-in their soul that God sent Jesus Christ, and believe that Jesus died for their sins, and all other peoples sins. That we are to die with Christ, be buried with Christ, and be raised again spiritually in Christ. (Romans 6:5; Colossians 2:12; 1 Corinthians 15:1-6, 2 Corinthians 5:17)

That all comes by and in the spirit where God writes his laws on our hearts and minds, and all people have also the choice to renew their mind - their soul by looking and seeking with-in the scriptures and allowing God to work with them, and setting for themselves treasures in heaven, rather on earth where moth, and dust destroy, and thieves break in and steal. (Hebrews 10:16-20; Matthew 6:19-2) Also growing in abiding in Christ, becoming from a child of God unto a Daughter or Son of God is something that happens to us as we live, if we continue in abiding in faith and trusting God and the Lord Jesus Christ and reading the word of God.

We agree with all of this as well sir, with a few likely exceptions of understanding some of the words. But no doubt you are thinking this is about all Christians, whereas I think it is only about an extremely small percentage of us. Do you know who the other sheep mentioned at Jn 10:16 are; these ones whom Jesus said would inherit the earth Mat 5:5?

 

[Robert Gwin]

pick up your cross, and follow Me

Do you know what that means sir?

 

[Robert Gwin]

you should be able to dl from here? but…
https://ifunny.co/picture/XMZ2Wt6e8

Yes sir, thank you Byrd.

 

[Robert Gwin]

well, its what the Bible teaches that man needed anyway, yes.
Dont be too surprised when that changes on you though ok
Bc no son of man may die for another’s sins is in There too!

Context comes into play sir:
(Deuteronomy 24:16) . . .“Fathers should not be put to death for what their children do, and children should not be put to death for what their fathers do. A person should be put to death only for his own sin.

 

[Robert Gwin]

So you say. But that simply puts the control back with men...who have no control. Men did not confuse all language, God did...for a greater purpose than you are attributing to men. It's not their master plan, it's his. What men have meant for evil, God has meant for good.

Do you have a theory on why God did that Scott? I have an opinion on the reason I will share with you to see how we compare, when I hear your reply.

 

[MatthewG]

I believe the beatitudes is a stepping stone of spiritual growth, leading from being poor in spirit, mourning, to gentleness, and so forth, @Robert Gwin I believe it’s a never ending cycle in a Christians life. Some times people can go from being poor in spirit and then become higher in their spiritual walk but that though even so we can always fall back down into being poor in spirit.

That is how I see those scriptures. You’ll becoming more meeker while walking on the earth by and through the kingdom of God - Holy Spirit within you. (Luke 17:21)

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I believe the beatitudes is a stepping stone of spiritual growth, leading from being poor in spirit, mourning, to gentleness, and so forth, @Robert Gwin I believe it’s a never ending cycle in a Christians life. Some times people can go from being poor in spirit and then become higher in their spiritual walk but that though even so we can always fall back down into being poor in spirit.

That is how I see those scriptures. You’ll becoming more meeker while walking on the earth by and through the kingdom of God - Holy Spirit within you. (Luke 17:21)

I haven't been following the conversation here lately, but will 100% say amen to this for every person. We all go through these cycles. The Refiner's fire is not a one-time thing, but a lifelong+ journey.

 

[David in NJ]

Do you have a theory on why God did that Scott? I have an opinion on the reason I will share with you to see how we compare, when I hear your reply.

Please share your thoughts on why God confused man's language.....TY

 

[David in NJ]

Well it is common knowledge that in the Old and New Testament people believed in monsters...dragons and sea monsters. It was just what they believed back then. As far as the connection to evil....that is not a far jump.

What men believe and what is true and what God knows is two different things. If Satan was in Eden....what? ....God did not know his name. Significant event....talking serpent.....fall of Man.....was it a secret from God the Father and God the Son?

And no I do not believe in monsters and dragons and talking serpents....the symbiology of it all, I am fine with.

What God knows is what HE wants us to know - His Word and His Holy Spirit.

Unbelief and mockery of His words will never free anyone from sin. It will only seal their eternal fate = separation from God.

“Behold, I am coming soon, and My reward is with Me, to give to each one according to what he has done.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.”
Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.

But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Revelation 22

 

[Truth7t7]

Read this in my devotional reading today. Thought of you.

Psalm 109:2-5
New Revised Standard Version

2 For wicked and deceitful mouths are opened against me,
speaking against me with lying tongues.
3 They beset me with words of hate,
and attack me without cause.
4 In return for my love they accuse me,
even while I make prayer for them.
5 So they reward me evil for good,
and hatred for my love.

No lying tongue, Mormons dont believe in God the father or Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible

Mormonism believes in a god named Elohim on the planet Kolob, and Jesus was the first born to this god Elohim and his wives, of the many Spirit children Lucifer included, and those that would be Mormons on this earth

Mormonism is a cult, and Joseph Smith was the cult leader, of the "Many" false teachings that are man's fabricated deception found in Mormonism

 

[David in NJ]

No lying tongue, Mormons dont believe in God the father or Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible

Mormonism believes in a god named Elohim on the planet Kolob, and Jesus was the first born to this god Elohim and his wives, of the many Spirit children Lucifer included, and those that would be Mormons on this earth

Mormonism is a cult, and Joseph Smith was the cult leader, of the "Many" false teachings that are man's fabricated deception found in Mormonism

Thank you for this info as i never delved into Mormonism. Now i see why people get upset over Truth.

 

[bbyrd009]

Context comes into play sir:
(Deuteronomy 24:16) . . .“Fathers should not be put to death for what their children do, and children should not be put to death for what their fathers do. A person should be put to death only for his own sin.

strikes me that Jesus would easily enough fit the concept of “father” there

 

[Truth7t7]

I haven't been following the conversation here lately, but will 100% say amen to this for every person. We all go through these cycles. The Refiner's fire is not a one-time thing, but a lifelong+ journey.

Jesus Christ himself will be the "Literal" refiners fire, and will return in "Literal" fire and final judgement

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

[ScottA]

Do you have a theory on why God did that Scott? I have an opinion on the reason I will share with you to see how we compare, when I hear your reply.

Yes, history (his story, this revelation of Jesus Christ) is the manifestation of good and evil, the evidence brought to light in the judgement. Just as God "is" ("I am"), so too are we. This is the revelation of us, the good and the evil, one day (and night) at a time. Then comes the end.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Like that. I consider the best defense for the divinity of Christ is not because the church inserts Him into a trinity concept, but because He is His Father's Son. Like Father, who is God, like Son, who cannot help but be the same, having inherited all the attributes of deity from His Father.
When Jesus said in reference to His Father, "the only true God", He was speaking the truth. The Father, as the creeds state, was unbegotten. His eternal nature and deity want derived from any other.
Jesus was begotten. His nature He received of His Father, yet because it was the same nature as the Father, it also was in a sense underived. And eternal. Like the Rock cut out of the mountain without hands in Daniel 2. Same nature as the mountain. The Father brought forth His Son, sent His Son to this world as a human, being the express image of Himself. This Jesus and the Father are one, and both worthy of worship.

People forget He had an existence before He became man! Cults and false believers say he was created and an angel and then twist verses to justify that.

Jesus was already God when conceived and all that happened is that He took His identity and became a person and suffered all things we go through from conceptiont o death to be the faithful high priest that He is!