Should I be rebaptised?

[BreadOfLife]

Oh but guess what Bol comes back with? he asks where does it say that the bible is the only scripture?? so according to the rcc THEY can continue to write their own scripture. The rcc teaches such conceited , convoluted blatant a satan inspired lies, it floors me that anyone is caught in their pitiful obvious religious web of deceit.

Once again - WHY do you continue to LIE when you know I will expose you for it??

I NEVER made this claim. I said that Sola Scriptura is not Biblical. Do you even understand what that means in the depths of your ignorance? It means that the NOWHERE does the Bible claim that the BIBLE is our Sole Authority.

Come back when you can find some Biblical proof.
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

PS - while you're at it - show me where the Catholic Church teaches that it can write its "own Scripture", Einstein . . .

 

[tzcho2]

whatever theology allows that one might one day go up to heaven and become an immortal I guess huh you'd think these guys would all be hugging each other and slapping each other on the back, having agreed to that scenario, wouldn't you?
So what gives, one gotta wonder

What "guys" are you referring to?

 

[BreadOfLife]

James is speaking that good works is the result of salvation.
I think it's hopeless as you don't want to know the Truth you only want to parrot what the rcc preaches, it certainly is monotonous how you cherry-pick scriptures to try to justify your beliefs in the rc false doctrines , & you contradict yourself while misrepresenting scriptures. That is bad for your soul.

WRONG.
That's NOT what James is saying.

In fact, in verse 2:19, he even makes a comparison between the belief of Christians and that of demons.
He says that if all you do is believe - then you are no better off than the demons.

James 2:14-26 makes the rock-solid case that Faith=Belie+Works, and that you cannot have one without the other.

 

[bbyrd009]

What "guys" are you referring to?

well, whatever guys believe they might become immortal and go up to heaven after they have died I guess. Particularly when you hear that this might happen based upon your beliefs, the way I am currently getting it; "beliefs" are the real killer I guess

Obv if you believe one thing you cannot believe all things

 

[BreadOfLife]

Unfortunately BOL is preaching a false gospel.

HOW so??
I'm ALL ears . . .

 

[bbyrd009]

WRONG.
That's NOT what James is saying.

In fact, in verse 2:19, he even makes a comparison between the belief of Christians and that of demons.
He says that if all you do is believe - then you are no better off than the demons.

James 2:14-26 makes the rock-solid case that Faith=Belie+Works, and that you cannot have one without the other.

the term "believe" is not even used in that v bro, sorry

 

[BreadOfLife]

the term "believe" is not even used in that v bro, sorry

WRONG.
It's in there TWICE:

James 2:19
You BELIEVE that there is one God. Good! Even the demons BELIEVE that —and shudder.

 

[tzcho2]

Once again - WHY do you continue to LIE when you know I will expose you for it??

I NEVER made this claim. I said that Sola Scriptura is not Biblical. Do you even understand what that means in the depths of your ignorance? It means that the NOWHERE does the Bible claim that the BIBLE is our Sole Authority.

Come back when you can find some Biblical proof.
Chapter and Verse, please . . .

PS - while you're at it - show me where the Catholic Church teaches that it can write its "own Scripture", Einstein . . .

WRONG.
That's NOT what James is saying.

In fact, in verse 2:19, he even makes a comparison between the belief of Christians and that of demons.
He says that if all you do is believe - then you are no better off than the demons.

James 2:14-26 makes the rock-solid case that Faith=Belie+Works, and that you cannot have one without the other.

Wrong as always Bol. Of course the rcc doesn't correctly handle the scriptures so you repeat their mistakes. Do you realize how many just ignore your posts? They know you are wrong but knocked the dust off their sandals a long time ago.

 

[Pearl]

There have been a lot of replies to you quandary Acolyte, have they helped you make up your mind? @Acolyte

 

[Stranger]

No - you're a renegade from Christ's Church.
The Catholic Church is the Original Tree from which Protestantism splintered.

You'll never be a Catholic until you learn that you must submit to His Church because in doing so - you submit to HIM. CHRIST said that - not me (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23) . . .

As for the Pope kissing the feet of the African leaders - what a beautiful sign of peace and humility.
I'm not surprised at ALL that this gesture was wasted on YOU . . .

No, the Catholic Church is the universal Church of Christ. The Roman Church developed a system of priesthood and authority with the intent of ruling over the Catholic Church. But, many of the Catholic Church resisted. Thus you have your split between Eastern Orthodoxy and the Church of Rome. Then later you have the split between many Catholics in the Church against the Church of Rome...what we call the Reformation.

I will never be a Romanist. I do not submit to your foot kissing Roman Pontiff. And I suppose you kiss his ring. A lot of ...kissing going on there.

Like I said, makes me sick.

Stranger

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Oh but guess what Bol comes back with? he asks where does it say that the bible is the only scripture?? so according to the rcc THEY can continue to write their own scripture. The rcc teaches such conceited , convoluted blatant a satan inspired lies, it floors me that anyone is caught in their pitiful obvious religious web of deceit.

If he knew anything at all about the Bible, other than quoting his pet verses, he would never say that.

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

No, the Catholic Church is the universal Church of Christ. The Roman Church developed a system of priesthood and authority with the intent of ruling over the Catholic Church. But, many of the Catholic Church resisted. Thus you have your split between Eastern Orthodoxy and the Church of Rome. Then later you have the split between many Catholics in the Church against the Church of Rome...what we call the Reformation.

I will never be a Romanist. I do not submit to your foot kissing Roman Pontiff. And I suppose you kiss his ring. A lot of ...kissing going on there.

Like I said, makes me sick.

Stranger

A lot of lacy dresses too.

 

[Stranger]

Really??

Show me where the word "Trinity" is in the Bible. While you're at it - show me where "Incarnation" is found.
CHAPTER and VERSE, please . . .

Also - you failed to find a verse that even comes CLOSE to stating that we must "Accept Jesus as Personal Lord and Savior".

As for "Altar calls" not being required - WHY do Protestants constantly claim that they were "saved" during an Altar Call?? Do you even HAVE altars?? NO.

As for Sola Fide - the ONLY place in ALL of Scripture where "Faith alone" is found is in James 2:24 where it says explicitly:
You see that a person is justified by works and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.

This is why your Protestant Father Martin Luther hated the Epistle of James and called it, "The Epistle of Straw" because of its teachings on the necessity of works.

Fail after fail after fail . . .

I never said the word 'Trintiy' was in the Bible...Einstein.

I never said the word 'Incarnation' was in the Bible...Einstein.

I showed you the verse that says we must receive Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour.

Altar calls are not a requirement in the Protestant Churches. If they have them, fine. If not, fine. No big deal.

You are ignorant of what James is saying. See the examples given in (James 2:21, 25) Do I need to draw you a picture again.

Luther is not a 'Father' of mine. I know you like to use the word 'Father' since you Romanists put so much emphasis on the 'Fathers'. But, sorry, I don't see Luther as a 'Father'. As to his view of the book of 'James', he was mistaken. See. That shows you that his opinion of a book did not stop a book from becoming recognized as from God.

So go ahead and submit to your Roman Pontiff. Kiss his ring or his foot or whatever needs kissing. I will pass on that silliness.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

A lot of lacy dresses too.

Exactly right.

Stranger

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Oh but guess what Bol comes back with? he asks where does it say that the bible is the only scripture?? so according to the rcc THEY can continue to write their own scripture. The rcc teaches such conceited , convoluted blatant a satan inspired lies, it floors me that anyone is caught in their pitiful obvious religious web of deceit.

You should ask BOL if the RCC still has missing mass as a "mortal sin". For that matter, who told them they are allowed to grade sins?

 

[Lady Crosstalk]

Luther is not a 'Father' of mine. I know you like to use the word 'Father' since you Romanists put so much emphasis on the 'Fathers'. But, sorry, I don't see Luther as a 'Father'. As to his view of the book of 'James', he was mistaken. See. That shows you that his opinion of a book did not stop a book from becoming recognized as from God.

And, in fact Jesus, in scolding the Jewish religious authorities said, in Matthew 23:8-9: "Don't let anyone call you 'rabbi' [rabbi means "teacher"] for you have only one teacher and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters. And don't address anyone here as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father." So much for the RCC hierarchy.

 

[Stranger]

And, in fact Jesus, in scolding the Jewish religious authorities said, in Matthew 23:8-9: "Don't let anyone call you 'rabbi' [rabbi means "teacher"] for you have only one teacher and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters. And don't address anyone here as 'Father,' for only God in heaven is your spiritual Father." So much for the RCC hierarchy.

Yes. I am not against leadership in the Church. I am against the leadership being from Rome as it has made the distinct division between priest and laity. When the reality is, every believer is a priest of God.

The Roman Church has hijacked the term 'Catholic' to itself. It is Roman, but it is not the Catholic or entire Church. It does not represent or rule over the universal Church of Christ, though it wants to. Every believer is part of the Catholic Church, being the Universal Church of Jesus Christ. But we are not all part of the Roman Church.

As Hans Kung has said in his book (The Catholic Church, Modern Library, 2003, p. 84-85),"It had taken around six hundred years for the papacy, after countless setbacks and defeats, to shape a Roman Catholic Church, for which the foundations were laid by Augustine and the Roman bishops in the fifth century, and in so doing to realize the program developed by Leo I and Gelasius. The aim of this program was sole rule by the pope in the church and the world, allegedly established by the apostle Peter, indeed by Jesus Christ. The church was now Roman through and through."

This is why BreadOfLife fights against the term 'Roman'. He wants to be seen representing the entire or Catholic church. And he does not. He represents the Roman Church. Which is why they should be called Romanist's and not Catholic. The believers in the Church of Rome are part of the Catholic church. Just like the believers in Baptist churches are part of the Catholic church.

Stranger

 

[bbyrd009]

WRONG.
It's in there TWICE:

James 2:19
You BELIEVE that there is one God. Good! Even the demons BELIEVE that —and shudder.

If you read the original it does not say that BoL, which I'm pretty sure you are already aware of on some level tbh. I mean you can conflate your beliefs with faith if you like, if you need, but you are only going to end up fooling yourself I guess

James 2:19 Lexicon: You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.

Which the English there is scribed too, you have to click the link now to find Faith.
and if the two are synonymous to your mind then so be it
I wish you the best ok

 

[bbyrd009]

There have been a lot of replies to you quandary Acolyte, have they helped you make up your mind?

you can tag another member by putting @ in front of their username, dunno if you are aware or not
@Pearl

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wrong as always Bol. Of course the rcc doesn't correctly handle the scriptures so you repeat their mistakes. Do you realize how many just ignore your posts? They know you are wrong but knocked the dust off their sandals a long time ago.

In my 15 years of dealing with lying anti-Catholics online - I have found that when somebody puts me on "ignore" right after I issued a challenge to their false accusations - it's because they've backed themselves into a corner that they can't get out of.

If you DON'T have any answers - then simply admit it and move on . . .