Scripture Revelation That Many Throw Out About the Future 1,000 Years Reign by Christ

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In 1 Corinthians 15:44-45, Paul showed that Christ's raised body was "made a quickening spirit". Same idea appears in 1 Peter 3:18-19, because flesh could not go to the "spirits in prison", which points to the heavenly dimension.

So the word 'physical' can be misleading on this matter, because the "spiritual body" does have a physical appearance just like a flesh body, including feel and touch, but it isn't a flesh body, because like Paul also said in 1 Cor.15:50, flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, neither does corruption (flesh) inherit incorruption (spirit body).
In 1 Corinthians 15:44-47, Paul uses the Greek term psychikos, the adjectival form of the noun psyche, which is translated 'being' in verse 45 and can also be rendered 'life' or 'animated existence.' Paul's contrast between 'natural' and 'spiritual' is a contrast between that which is temporally alive and that which has an eternal existence with God (cf. 1 Corinthians 2:14-3:3). Starting from Genesis 2:7, Paul explains that God created Adam from the dust and animated him with breath. Christ, however, is the last Adam, and His resurrection gave Him a spiritual and therefore imperishable body (Phili8ppians 3:21). By 'spiritual body' Paul does not mean an immaterial body but a body ~ very material and very physical ~ animated and empowered by the Holy Spirit.

And in John 3, Jesus said that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit. Thus flesh and spirit are two separate operations and manifestations.
Jesus is quite obviously telling Nicodemus that even in this life, one can be born of the Spirit, and thus alive spiritually, which hearkens back to God's words through the prophet Ezekiel:
  • "I will give them one heart, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, that they may walk in my statutes and keep my rules and obey them. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God" (11:19-20).
  • "I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes and be careful to obey My rules. You shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers, and you shall be My people, and I will be your God" (36:26-28).
...and also echoed by what Paul says in Ephesians and Peter says in 1 Peter:
  • "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience ~ among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ ~ by grace you have been saved ~ and raised us up with Him and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages He might show the immeasurable riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them" (Ephesians 2:1-10).
  • "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to His great mercy, He has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time" (1 Peter1:3-5).
Our physical body and our spirit were never meant to be separate. Oh, we will die physically, but will be resurrected, and on that great day, for us believers, our physical body and our spirit will be reunited and made new ~ our faith will be sight, and we will be then without sin, the image of God will be perfectly restored in us, and we will be... just like Jesus... we will see Him as He is.

Grace and peace to all!
 

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The only Spiritual Being in the Millennium Kingdom, will be Jesus. As shown in Zechariah 14:16-21, and Isaiah 2;1-4
The human peoples will be mortal, albeit much healthier and living much longer. Isaiah 65:20

@Davy - You used 1 Corinthians 15 as your scripture in the OP. Why can you not see that 1 Cor 15:50-56 relates to the GWT Judgment AFTER the Millennium? There will still be Death then, only to be no more in Eternity. Revelation 21:4

However; all will be revealed in due time. What we should be concerned about right now, is how the Lord intends to destroy His enemies and clear the holy Land. This sudden and shocking worldwide disaster, is what we have been warned to be ready for. To stand firm in our faith, as we pass safely thru it all.
 

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The only Spiritual Being in the Millennium Kingdom, will be Jesus.
"...if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come" (Paul, 2 Corinthians 5:17).

Grace and peace to all.
 

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..if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come" (Paul, 2 Corinthians 5:17).
This is our Promise, as Jesus said: Whosoever believes in Me, shall have Eternal life.
But no one received immortality them and even have since then.

The true fact is: that we must prove our faith and trust in the Lord and by that - have our names Written into the Book of Life and when that Book is opened after the Millennium, then; immortality will be conferred for Eternity.
 

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This is our Promise, as Jesus said: Whosoever believes in Me, shall have Eternal life.
Right, but that whosoever is dependent on something. Read what Joel says in Joel 2:32 ~ which is one of the Scriptures He was directly referring to in John 3:16 ~ and, well, see what you see. If you really do see, then great; you certainly don't have to tell me about it... :)

But no one received immortality them and even have since then.
Right, not yet; I didn't say anything otherwise. But for those of us who have been born again of the Spirit and given eternal life in Christ, it is an absolute certainty.

The true fact is: that we must prove our faith and trust in the Lord and by that - have our names Written into the Book of Life and when that Book is opened after the Millennium, then; immortality will be conferred for Eternity.
The Book of Life was written long, long ago.

We are called to live out the faith we've been given, for sure, and we will, because we've been given it. But "prove it"...? God needs no proof of something He's given. Now, if you want to say "prove it to yourself and to others," then I'm quite fine with that.

Book of Life opened at the Judgment, after the present millennium, or "these last days" as the writer of Hebrews puts it in Hebrews 1:2.

Grace and peace to you, brother Keraz.
 

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In 1 Corinthians 15:44-47, Paul uses the Greek term psychikos, the adjectival form of the noun psyche, which is translated 'being' in verse 45 and can also be rendered 'life' or 'animated existence.' Paul's contrast between 'natural' and 'spiritual' is a contrast between that which is temporally alive and that which has an eternal existence with God (cf. 1 Corinthians 2:14-3:3). Starting from Genesis 2:7, Paul explains that God created Adam from the dust and animated him with breath. Christ, however, is the last Adam, and His resurrection gave Him a spiritual and therefore imperishable body (Phili8ppians 3:21). By 'spiritual body' Paul does not mean an immaterial body but a body ~ very material and very physical ~ animated and empowered by the Holy Spirit.

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What Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:50 bypasses all that play on Greek, simply because the following verses are direct... statements of fact:

1 Cor 15:49-50
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
KJV


Lord Jesus in John 3 also showed the same idea as above to Nicodemus, when Jesus said...

John 3:6
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
KJV


The above reveals that the realm of flesh (this earthy dimension) is one operation, and the realm of Spirit (heavenly dimension) is another operation, and are separate in function and type. The above is another one of those type direct statements of fact.

In 2 Corinthians 5 Apostle Paul also revealed that we have TWO types of bodies, one of the flesh while alive in this earthly dimension, and another body of spirit made from the heavenly dimension. So I really don't understand men's doctrines that keep denying those Bible Scriptures about our two separate type of bodies, one of flesh and one of spirit. Our flesh is the temporary one, but our spirit body is eternal, like Paul showed in 2 Cor.5 UNLESS... God destroys it in the future "lake of fire", called the "second death".

I tell you, if you put your trust in your flesh, you will be terribly deceived.
 

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One of the main stumbling blocks by many in trying to understand the events of Revelation 20 about Christ's future 1,000 years reign on earth with His elect, is OMITTING what Apostle Paul taught about the change to the "spiritual body" in 1 Corinthians 15 on the day of Christ's future coming.

Also along with that, they OMIT what Lord Jesus revealed on the day of His future coming, that ALL in the graves shall hear His voice AND COME FORTH...

John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
KJV



On that day of Christ's coming, Apostle Paul showed this will happen...

1 Cor 15:49-52
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery;
We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
KJV

The dead being raised on that day, that "last trump", the 7th one, when Jesus comes, includes those same ones Jesus said will go into the "resurrection of damnation" back in John 5:28-29.


OK, so now consider just who all will be in resurrection type bodies after the day of Christ's future coming.

1.
the saints that are 'asleep' which Jesus brings with Him when the dead are raised (1 Thess.4:13-16).

2. the saints still alive on earth on the day of Jesus' coming, and immediately 'changed' to the "image of the heavenly", the "spiritual body" Paul taught, which is the body type of the resurrection (1 Thess.4:17; 1 Cor.15:49-52.)

3. the wicked dead that are raised unto the "resurrection of damnation", which means they also will have a "spiritual body" because that is the body type of the resurrection per Paul, but these unsaved will still have souls that are liable to perish later (per Paul in the Greek of 1 Cor.15:54).

So since God's Word reveals that the unsaved raised dead will have the future resurrection body, although still in a damned state, then why wouldn't all the unsaved nations in that time also have the resurrection body, and be changed on that "last trump" too? Paul did say "all" shall be changed in that 1 Corinthians 15:51 verse.

Is this from Bible Scripture too hard to think about brethren? Do you not like to consider these Scripture points because it go against the 'fleshy' doctrines of men you have been taught about the events after Christ's future return? Do you hate to consider it because you have put your trust in a resurrection to a new flesh body, which is not... written? Like Paul said in 1 Cor.15:50, flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, neither does corruption inherit incorruption.

What does all these Scripture points reveal?

They reveal that EVERYONE, all souls, will manifest in the resurrection type body after Christ's future coming. That includes the wicked and unsaved, not just those of us in Christ Jesus. The events that will occur on the future "day of the Lord", the last day of this present world when Jesus returns, will end... this present time in flesh bodies.

The "spiritual body" Paul taught is the type body of Christ's future 1,000 years reign with His elect.

So when reading and studying about that future 1,000 years Millennial reign by Lord Jesus and His elect, this revelation must be kept in mind about all peoples and nations manifesting in the body type of the resurrection. There won't be half n' half peoples walking around, some in spirit bodies and others still in their flesh body. ALL... will be in the spiritual body type. Forget men's doctrine that wrongly teaches that Paul meant only those in Christ Jesus will be changed to the spiritual body, which is the body type of the resurrection. The fact that the unsaved dead will ALSO be in resurrection bodies on the day of Christ's return, per John 5, is hard evidence of this.

Thus the "dead" of Rev.20:5 is actually about the unsaved dead raised of the "resurrection of damnation" along with the unsaved nations. And that means they are NOT raised after the 1,000 years, but on the day of Christ's coming like He said in John 5:28-29.
The only people reigning with Christ for the 1000 years were beheaded for their witness of Jesus and did not worship the beast,it's image nor receive it's mark.
They shall live and reign with Christ. The rest of the dead live not again till the 1000 years are finished.


One thing we must understand.This revelation was not given to Paul or any other apostle other than John.John is the only apostle Jesus shared this revelation with and the only apostle Jesus told to write about it.
 

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The Book of Life was written long, long ago.
Actually, what I believe, is that everybody's name is Written in the Book of Life at their birth.
It is getting our names erased, that we must be careful to avoid. Blotted out of it, as Moses said: Exodus32:37

The main way we can avoid that fate, is to stand firm in our faith and trust the Lord, when disaster strikes.
Book of Life opened at the Judgment, after the present millennium,
Ater the next Millennium, as Revelation 20:11-15 says.
 

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What Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:50 bypasses all that play on Greek...
"play on Greek..." <sigh> Goodness gracious. <smile>

In 2 Corinthians 5 Apostle Paul also revealed that we have TWO types of bodies..., one of the flesh while alive in this earthly dimension, and another body of spirit made from the heavenly dimension.
No, he "revealed" ~ said ~ that we have two natures, that our old sin nature is still present in our body (correlating with what he said of himself in Romans 7), but that sense we've been born again of the Spirit we now have a spiritual nature, one that accepts things of the Holy Spirit.

So I really don't understand...
Maybe you will someday. Even if you don't in this life, it will still be what it will be, and... we'll be eternally happy. <smile>

Our flesh is the temporary one, but our spirit body is eternal, like Paul showed in 2 Cor.5
Well, I agree. <smile> But he's not saying we'll be ghosts, or immaterial. When Jesus comes back, our physical bodies will also be redeemed ~ made new, as God says in Revelation 21:5 ~ and reunited with our spirit. Adam and Eve, before the events of Genesis 3, give us a glimpse of eternity. Body and spirit are not meant to be apart, and one great day will not be.

UNLESS... God destroys it in the future "lake of fire", called the "second death".
Ohhhhh, annihilation... No such thing... <smile>

I tell you, if you put your trust in your flesh, you will be terribly deceived.
Agreed.

Grace and peace to you, Davy.
 

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Actually, what I believe, is that everybody's name is Written in the Book of Life at their birth.
Okay. But I think that is in opposition to what Paul says in Ephesians 1:4-5 (not you being opposed to it, of course, but antithetical to what he writes there), and I believe the only names written in the Book of Life are God's elect. I would say Paul is very clear on that ~ what God created some for as opposed to others ~ in Romans 9:22-23, and David in Psalm 139:16 where he says all the days ordained for him were written in His book before one of them came to be. But it's not of terrible importance that we agree on this. <smile>

Grace and peace to you, Keraz.
 
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No, he "revealed" ~ said ~ that we have two natures, that our old sin nature is still present in our body (correlating with what he said of himself in Romans 7), but that sense we've been born again of the Spirit we now have a spiritual nature, one that accepts things of the Holy Spirit.

<sigh> Good Grief Charlie Brown. <smile>

That kind of "two natures" type thinking is from men's Humanist philosophy; it's not an idea in The Bible. It instead comes from men's psychology-philosophy. And trust me, men of this world have been delving into that kind of philosophy for centuries and not gotten very far in understanding themselves nor this world. Truth in God's written Word goes so far beyond them that it is insane to try and compare their philosophy with God's Word. Even Apostle Paul marveled at how superstitious the Greek philosophers were in his day. When I was young I studied man's philosophy, including ancient Greek philosophy, which did have some good ideas. I also minored at university in industrial psychology.

In Romans 7, Apostle Paul was defining operations between TWO BODY TYPES, flesh vs. spirit. Lord Jesus contrasted the same in John 3:6 when He said that which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of The Spirit is spirit. And God The Father has NO flesh body, for John 4:24 says "God is a Spirit". So if you don't believe a body of Spirit is real, then it shows your mind dwells on fleshy things instead of properly understanding the things of The Spirit per Bible Scripture.

1 Corinthians 15 by Apostle Paul is about the RESURRECTION TYPE BODY, not man's Humanist thoughts about "two natures".

Actor Clint Walker was not telling lies about his near death experience:

 
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<sigh> Good Grief Charlie Brown. <smile>
<smile>

That kind of "two natures" type thinking is from men's Humanist philosophy; it's not an idea in The Bible.
Okay, well, we very much disagree...

I say the same thing about your "two bodies"... well, I wouldn't call it a "philosophy," but certainly a misunderstanding. It is really a very wooden understanding of what Paul is saying there in 1 Corinthians 15 in particular. Actually, that understanding does arise from philosophy... it is what we call Platonic dualism ~ Plato was the first to enunciate it, and the Hellenists and stoics of Paul's day believed it, and so therefore a "humanist" philosophy in a very real sense ~ concerning the body. Now, that doesn't mean that I (or others who think along the same lines as I on this) think that Plato or you (or others who think along the same lines on this) are "dumb," or lack intelligence, or anything like that. But it is what it is.

...if you don't believe a body of Spirit is real...
Well, I do, Davy. And I would actually say that I believe it is "realer"... <smile> ... more real... than you, really. I say our resurrection will be just like Jesus's, which... well, that's what this same Paul we're speaking of says in Romans 6:5, that "if we have been united with Him in a death like His, we shall certainly be united with Him in a resurrection like His." Would you posit that we will get our physical bodies back at the resurrection, and then lose them again? Surely not, but if you do, well, okay.

...it shows your mind dwells on fleshy things instead of properly understanding the things of The Spirit per Bible Scripture.
Pish. God's Word is God's Word, and is certainly not fleshly, and we agree on that for sure. But regarding properly understanding what Paul is saying with regard to the issue we are speaking of, well, right back atcha... I believe you hold to an understanding on this that is not "of the Spirit per Bible Scripture." But again, whether you are or I am right about this particular thing is not of terrible importance; it is not something that warrants any kind of rebuke.

Now. Regarding Clint Walker and near-death experiences, they should not be doubted. But Davy... Listen. I know you don't believe this, at least right now, but what I'm saying is, yes, when we die, our redeemed spirit will leave our unredeemed physical body and will go home to be with the Lord. And when He returns, our spirit, which will then have been long-since redeemed (ever since we were born again of the Spirit) ~ we ~ will come with Him and be reunited with our resurrected and newly redeemed (made new, along with the rest of creation) physical body (which will no longer be a "body of sin," as Paul says of his own body in Romans 7). So Clint Walker's story, and any like near-death experience, fits with what I'm saying, too; don't think for a second that it doesn't.

So, yes, we disagree on this, which we knew was the case, and that's okay... it's not what we call an "essential" of the faith. Nobody is going to hell because they believe this or that regarding Paul's (really God's) words about ~ particularly ~ the physical and the spiritual body (or bodies). We can leave it at that I think.

Grace and peace to you, Davy.
 
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Okay, well, we very much disagree...

You're not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with God's Word as written. There's a difference. I don't care if you just disagree with me. Who am I; just a man. Listen to God.

I say the same thing about your "two bodies"... well, I wouldn't call it a "philosophy," but certainly a misunderstanding.

The two separate bodies is God's written Word. Deny it if you will, but don't call it mine, for that is to push a lie...

1 Cor 15:44
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.
There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
KJV

1 Cor 15:48-49
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
KJV


So to be actually truthful, you REJECT what Apostle Paul said in the above that there are two separate bodies. That means you REJECT... Paul, NOT me.


Therefore, I don't have time for those who REJECT DIRECTLY WRITTEN BIBLE SCRIPTURE, and try to 'project' their false notions against Bible Scripture onto me, or onto someone else.

WELCOME TO MY IGNORE LIST.
 

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You're not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with God's Word as written.
So you think, but no, just the former; not the latter. You may say I'm not understanding it correctly, but never would I disagree with God's Word... and I'm saying precisely the same of you.

I don't care if you just disagree with me. Who am I; just a man. Listen to God.
Right, well, then based on what I said directly above, we should be able to leave it on good terms at that, right?

The two separate bodies is God's written Word.
It can be understood in that sense, I agree. But that's the wrong sense in which to understand it; the correct is... what I said above (in post number 32). So, we disagree, and that's really okay, Davy. Regardless which of us is right or wrong, it doesn't make either one of us "better" or "worse" Christians than the other, or saved or not, or more or less intelligent.

...you REJECT what Apostle Paul said...
Ah, merely because I disagree with you. Wow. Well, absolutely not, of course, nor do I disagree with what he said. No, I disagree with what you think the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:49-50.

Regarding the vast difference between not understanding something correctly and actually rejecting something, do you really think this way, Davy? I mean, really? Surely not.

So yet again, no, I don't "reject" either what Paul is saying... or what you are saying. But I disagree with your understanding of what Paul said. Come on, man. Have some... well, understanding... and grace about you.

WELCOME TO MY IGNORE LIST.
I do not care. At all. LOL! You have no idea how much I literally do not care.

But hey, grace and peace to you. Especially grace, an attribute in which you at least seem to be terribly lacking. But yes, grace and peace to you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
 
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In 1 Corinthians 15, Apostle Paul gave a curious little section of Bible Scripture that many struggle with about the future body type of the world to come, and Christ's future "thousand years" reign that starts at His future return.

1 Cor 15:20-28
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.


The above idea is how Lord Jesus' body type, once it was "quickened by the Spirit", represents the future type body of the world to come. (see 1 Cor.15:44-45 and 1 Peter 3:18-19 about that idea of Christ's raised body having been 'quickened' to a Heavenly Spirit).

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.


Could Paul in the above with, "... even so in Christ shall all be made alive," be meant for ALL... peoples, including the wicked? Men's pop traditions instead like to apply that only to Christ's Church, but as one will discover later it applies to all peoples having a future resurrection type body.


23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at His coming.


Paul of course is speaking to Christ's Church here, not to the unsaved. Thus he speaks only of those in Christ at that verse.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.


That future time when Jesus "... shall have put down all rule and all authority and power" is a direct reference to His future "thousand years" reign with His elect of Revelation 20.

25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.


That also is a reference to His future "thousand years" reign over the nations per Revelation 20. Per Revelation 3:9, in His Message to the Church of Philadelphia, He told them He will make those of the "synagogue of Satan" to come and worship at their feet. That means they will bow to Christ Jesus at His future "thousand years" reign, because Jesus will be right next to His elect when they bow to Him. That has never... happened yet to this day, and is only for the time after Christ's future return.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


Per Revelation 20:10-15, after the "thousand years" period mentioned there, Satan, death, hell, and the wicked will all perish in the "lake of fire", which is called the "second death". Revelation 21:4 even reveals after that "thousand years" reign by Christ and the wicked are destroyed at the "second death", then there will exist no more death. The idea of all death will then no longer exist, forever.

I'm going to show which parts of The Godhead that Apostle Paul is speaking about in the below... to make it easier to understand:

27 For He
(The Father) hath put all things under His (Christ) feet. But when He (The Father) saith, all things are put under Him (Christ), it is manifest that He (The Father) is excepted, Which did put all things under Him (Christ).

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto Him
(Christ), then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him That put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
KJV


The above reveals that the future "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus and His elect written in Revelation 20 will be a LITERAL 1,000 year period. And that it is for Christ to put all all things under His feet. All knees shall bow to Jesus Christ, as written (Php 2:10; Rom.14:11). Thus the above 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 section of Bible Scripture is another proof that Christ's future "thousand years" reign WILL be a LITERAL period of time, without needing to mention an actual 1,000 number.
 

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In 1 Corinthians 15, Apostle Paul gave a curious little section of Bible Scripture that many struggle with about the future body type of the world to come, and Christ's future "thousand years" reign that starts at His future return.

1 Cor 15:20-28
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.


The above idea is how Lord Jesus' body type, once it was "quickened by the Spirit", represents the future type body of the world to come. (see 1 Cor.15:44-45 and 1 Peter 3:18-19 about that idea of Christ's raised body having been 'quickened' to a Heavenly Spirit).

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.


Could Paul in the above with, "... even so in Christ shall all be made alive," be meant for ALL... peoples, including the wicked? Men's pop traditions instead like to apply that only to Christ's Church, but as one will discover later it applies to all peoples having a future resurrection type body.


23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at His coming.

Paul of course is speaking to Christ's Church here, not to the unsaved. Thus he speaks only of those in Christ at that verse.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

That future time when Jesus "... shall have put down all rule and all authority and power" is a direct reference to His future "thousand years" reign with His elect of Revelation 20.

25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.

That also is a reference to His future "thousand years" reign over the nations per Revelation 20. Per Revelation 3:9, in His Message to the Church of Philadelphia, He told them He will make those of the "synagogue of Satan" to come and worship at their feet. That means they will bow to Christ Jesus at His future "thousand years" reign, because Jesus will be right next to His elect when they bow to Him. That has never... happened yet to this day, and is only for the time after Christ's future return.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Per Revelation 20:10-15, after the "thousand years" period mentioned there, Satan, death, hell, and the wicked will all perish in the "lake of fire", which is called the "second death". Revelation 21:4 even reveals after that "thousand years" reign by Christ and the wicked are destroyed at the "second death", then there will exist no more death. The idea of all death will then no longer exist, forever.

I'm going to show which parts of The Godhead that Apostle Paul is speaking about in the below... to make it easier to understand:

27 For He (The Father) hath put all things under His (Christ) feet. But when He (The Father) saith, all things are put under Him (Christ), it is manifest that He (The Father) is excepted, Which did put all things under Him (Christ).

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto Him
(Christ), then shall the Son also Himself be subject unto Him That put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
KJV


The above reveals that the future "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus and His elect written in Revelation 20 will be a LITERAL 1,000 year period. And that it is for Christ to put all all things under His feet. All knees shall bow to Jesus Christ, as written (Php 2:10; Rom.14:11). Thus the above 1 Corinthians 15:23-28 section of Bible Scripture is another proof that Christ's future "thousand years" reign WILL be a LITERAL period of time, without needing to mention an actual 1,000 number.
1 Corinthians 15:22-24 says that the end comes when Jesus comes. You are completely ignoring that and trying to say that the end comes 1,000+ years after that.

When verse 25 says "He must reign till He hath put all enemies under His feet" that isn't saying He doesn't start to reign until He comes again. That is written in the present tense. It's saying that He reigns now and must continue to reign until He has put all of His enemies under His feet, including the last enemy, death.

How can you not know that He reigns now when scripture explicitly teaches that?

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Ephesians 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, 20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, 21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,


He has had all power in heaven and earth and was placed "far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named...in this world" and the Father "put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church" since His resurrection. So, He has been reigning since His resurrection and must continue to reign until the very last enemy, death, is under His feet when death is destroyed (1 Cor 15:26). When will death be destroyed? At the last trumpet which will sound at His second coming.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Clearly, when death is swallowed up in victory, death will have been destroyed. That will happen at Christ's second coming, not a thousand years (plus Satan's little season) later.
 

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Clearly, when death is swallowed up in victory, death will have been destroyed. That will happen at Christ's second coming, not a thousand years (plus Satan's little season) later.
Wrong.
What is clear, is Revelation 21:4 ....there shall be an end to Death....as the old order has passed away.
This happens AFTER the Millennium, After Satan's little season, and WHEN the New heavens and earth appear.
How can you not know that He reigns now when scripture explicitly teaches that?
Because we can discern reality. The world is obviously not yet under King Jesus, the Spiritual powers of evil are having a ball right now!
 
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Wrong.
What is clear, is Revelation 21:4 ....there shall be an end to Death....as the old order has passed away.
This happens AFTER the Millennium, After Satan's little season, and WHEN the New heavens and earth appear.
I agree. You once again have proven that you don't even know what Amils believe, yet you continue to waste your time arguing against something you don't even understand.

Because we can discern reality. The world is obviously not yet under King Jesus, the Spiritual powers of evil are having a ball right now!
So, is it your belief that God has not reigned over the world since Adam and Eve sinned? In order to be reigning, everyone in the world has to obey Him?
 

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The thing is that the believer will have less flesh, than the unbeliever (per OP).

The corollary being the believer will have "more spirit".
 

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It doesn't make any sense to say that the saved and lost will be resurrected on the same day while also trying to claim that the thousand years will occur in the future.

Why, doesn't make sense because you refuse to listen to what Jesus said in John 5:28-29? Why are you wasting your time by not believing what He said there that ALL... in the graves will hear His voice and come forth??

Who are the ones who are destroyed by fire in Revelation 20:9 in that case? People who had been resurrected? That's nonsense.

So then, you've never read Zechariah 14:16-19 for after... Christ's future return, when even leftovers of the armies that will come upon against Jerusalem on the last day, will be made to come and worship Christ from year to year, and keep the feast of tabernacles? Notice it speaks of the existence of 'nations' there doing that also. Do you reject that Zechariah 14 Scripture too like you do John 5:28-29?


BRETHREN IN CHRIST JESUS:
The UNSAVED that go through Christ's future "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect are represented by the "nations" it mentions...

Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
KJV


Don't folks read their Bible anymore?!? This is an EASY to understand matter once God's Word is heeded about it!

Rev 19:14-16
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed Him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15
And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations: and He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and He treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
KJV


The above is about the future day of Christ's coming on the last day of this present world, and the start of His future reign with that "rod of iron" over the UNSAVED NATIONS. Surely Christ's elect that reign also using that "rod of iron" with Him can figure out that 'rod' is not for the SAVED?!?


Again, notice Jesus is to rule over WHOM... with that "rod of iron"??

The NATIONS. That must mean nations of the UNSAVED will still exist DURING Christ's future "thousand years" reign??

Yes, of course! again simply because that "rod of iron" is NOT for His elect who ALSO will use that "rod of iron" to rule over those nation during His future "thousand years" reign. Jesus promised to give His elect that "rod of iron" to reign in that future time with Him...

Rev 2:26-27
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And he that overcometh, and keepeth My works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of My Father.
KJV


OK, the above is Biblical PROOF that Christ's elect will also reign over the UNSAVED NATIONS with that same "rod of iron" which The Father gave Jesus Christ to reign with.

But did you not know brethren where this prophecy was first given?
Turn with me to Psalms 2...

Ps 2
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against His anointed, saying,

3 "Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us."


The unsaved of the nations are still saying the above quote against The LORD and His Christ. God has an answer to that though...

4 He That sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5 Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure.


When is that above to happen, when GOD will have those haughty in derision? On the day of Christ Jesus' future coming. That is when this will start, and is what His "wrath" and "sore displeasure" will be about on that future day. So YEAH... this part is still future prophecy that has yet to happen today!

6 Yet have I set My king upon My holy hill of Zion.

When will God set His King upon His holy hill of Zion? That is about the day of Christ's future coming, and the start of His future "thousand years" reign with His elect upon this earth. That also is still yet to happen, and "Zion" is put for Jerusalem where Jesus returns per Zechariah 14.

7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, "Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."

Jesus of Nazareth, The Christ, is the Only Begotten Son of God. Per Matthew 1:23 Jesus' name is also "Emmanuel" which interpreted there means, "God with us". So Jesus is GOD The Son, part of The Eternal Godhead. Thus the idea of Jesus being 'begotten' is about Jesus' place as the 'express image' of The Father, and having existed with The Father eternally (see Hebrews 1).

8 Ask of Me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

When... does the above actually happen? It ain't happened yet today, that should be obvious, as there are still many nations and peoples today who are against Christ. This will only happen on the day of Jesus' future coming, as KING of kings, and LORD of lords. Jesus will reign over ALL nations and peoples then. These "heathen" are put for the NATIONS per a Hebrew word that refers to Gentiles.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

There it is, the first reference to Christ reigning in the future over the UNSAVED NATIONS with that "rod of iron".

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
KJV


The above then is about Christ's future "thousand years" reign, with those kings and judges being made to bow to Him while He and His elect reign over them with that "rod of iron" of the future.