Scripture is not the last word.

[tzcho2]

I am blessed.

Mat 5:10, Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11, Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Mat 5:12, Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Luk 6:22, Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luk 6:23, Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

2Ti 3:10, But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
2Ti 3:11, Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
2Ti 3:12, Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2Ti 3:13, But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

Delusional.
You are not being persecuted.

 

[justbyfaith]

Delusional.
You are not being persecuted.

Your very statement that you think I am delusional is a statement of persecution.

per·se·cute
(pûr′sĭ-kyo͞ot′)
tr.v. per·se·cut·ed, per·se·cut·ing, per·se·cutes
1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, religion, gender, or beliefs.
2. To annoy persistently; bother: persecuted the babysitter with foolish questions.

 

[tzcho2]

Actual Christian persecution:
Christian persecution expected to increase in 2019; believers facing 'modern-day jihad'
The persecution of Christians around the world is expected to increase in 2019, with a watchdog group sharing particular concern for believers in Nigeria, China, and India.

Release International, which is celebrating its 50th anniversary, said in a press release that 215 million believers face violence and discrimination for their faith.

"In Nigeria, Fulani militants look set to continue devastating attacks against Christians in the north and central Nigeria. In the first six months of 2018 alone, they killed up to 6,000 and drove 50,000 from their homes," the group said of the situation in the African country.

A Release partner, who wasn't named, said that there is a "deliberate plan to destroy and take over the predominantly Christian communities in the region." The source added that Christians are facing a "strategic modern-day jihad."

 

[justbyfaith]

He, the Lord, never started pouring His Spirit on all flesh, so He never stopped that which He never started.

I will correct this statement of yours, however.

A clear look at the holy scriptures will tell you that Joel 2 was fulfilled in Acts 2. God began to pour out of His Spirit on all flesh when Peter said He did. "This is that which was spoken of by the prophet Joel."

 

[justbyfaith]

Christian persecution

Persecution is not limited to physical murder. How would the person who is persecuted be currently blessed if that is so? As in Jesus saying that to them through their reading of God's word, that they are blessed because they are being persecuted for righteousness' sake?

Sly. You went back and changed your post to add commentary to the picture.

I would say to this that there is an unspoken group of people who are ill-treated by certain institutions for their faith and that it does not amount to the extreme results that happen in other countries. Persecution in the United States happens to be a slander campaign against radical believers coupled with a forceful attempt to turn them into drug addicts. The believers themselves are told that they are mentally ill and then subjected to "mental health treatment" against their will.

But the scripture says,

2Ti 1:7, For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

and,

Hos 9:7, The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.

and,

2Co 5:13, For whether we be beside ourselves, it is to God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause.

and,

Psa 119:69, The proud have forged a lie against me: but I will keep thy precepts with my whole heart.

Not to mention, the definition of persecution has to do with attempting to diminish the power of a person's ministry in the Lord.

So, it is not limited to extreme circumstances that we see in other countries. It is just as extreme here, only it is shrouded in darkness so that the majority of people are not aware.

 

[justbyfaith]

Delusional.
You are not being persecuted.

And the persecutors always say that they are not really persecuting the people whom they are persecuting. I suppose that it helps their conscience for them to think so.

 

[tzcho2]

@tzcho2, @Preacher4Truth, @SovereignGrace,

I wipe off the dust of my feet concerning you.

If you continue to speak against me, you will show me to be telling the truth concerning whether you are my enemy or not.

The proof will be in the pudding.
Your very statement that you think I am delusional is a statement of persecution.

per·se·cute
(pûr′sĭ-kyo͞ot′)
tr.v. per·se·cut·ed, per·se·cut·ing, per·se·cutes
1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, religion, gender, or beliefs.
2. To annoy persistently; bother: persecuted the babysitter with foolish questions.

More self-delusional nonsense.
You are the one that called me your enemy.
Then you claim You are the victim. Gimme a break!
You're spiritual trip claims have been challenged by us as not being scriptural, you have been reproved with scripture and so now, since you couldn't convince us with scripture, or with threats, when your other tactics haven't worked you now claim that you are being persecuted for your righteousness? Don't you see the irony?

 

[justbyfaith]

That you say it unashamedly is no surprise being your teachings are heretical

He's on par with false apostles so he has it partly correct.

You may not have killed my body, and you certainly have not killed my soul; but you have sought to deter people from receiving the life-giving words that I bring to them; and in doing so you seek to limit the reward that I will receive when I get to heaven for the impact that I made on satan's kingdom with the teachings of God's word that I bring to the table.

re #541 (@tzcho2, Scripture is not the last word.)

 

[justbyfaith]

You are the one that called me your enemy.

You don't realize it but while you are my enemy, I am your friend.

 

[justbyfaith]

I changed my mind: I do not wipe off the dust of my feet against you. The love of Christ constrains me to continue to attempt to minister to you; bringing you out of the darkness that you find yourselves in.

 

[tzcho2]

And the persecutors always say that they are not really persecuting the people whom they are persecuting. I suppose that it helps their conscience for them to think so.

Dah.......disagreement is not Christian persecution , oh, but, I forgot, you guys are so used inventing your own melodramatic spiritual claims, self-justifications that have nothing to do with scripture or with reality. Like "triple anointing, double portions and fresh fire" , passing the mantels....etc...

 

[tzcho2]

You don't realize it but while you are my enemy, I am your friend.

No you don't declare me your enemy and then say you are my friend.
You are double-minded and selling snake-oil.

 

[justbyfaith]

edited #545 (Scripture is not the last word.)

 

[justbyfaith]

Dah.......disagreement is not Christian persecution , oh, but, I forgot, you guys are so used inventing your own melodramatic spiritual claims, self-justifications that have nothing to do with scripture or with reality. Like "triple anointing, double portions and fresh fire" , passing the mantels....etc...

No you don't declare me your enemy and then say you are my friend.
You are double-minded and selling snake-oil.

Hey, I love you, in spite of your treatment of me.

How can I not, after what Jesus did for me?

He loved me so much that He went to a Cross and died for me.

Anything you have to dish out is nothing compared to that.

I am happy to suffer shame for His name, if that is what it will come down to.

Act 5:41

 

[tzcho2]

Hey, I love you, in spite of your treatment of me.
How can I not, after what Jesus did for me?
He loved me so much that He went to a Cross and died for me.
Anything you have to dish out is nothing compared to that.
I am happy to suffer shame for His name, if that is what it will come down to.
Act 5:41

You're posts show a double-mindedness and haughty reactivity. You have completely spun yourself in 180 degrees. Proven your words cannot be trusted.

 

[justbyfaith]

You're posts show a double-mindedness and haughty reactivity. You have completely spun yourself in 180 degrees. Proven your words cannot be trusted.

Okay man. I will pray for you.

 

[tzcho2]

Okay man. I will pray for you.

Calling a person your enemy and then saying ,"I'll pray for you." No thanks. I don't care for any double-minded person's prayers. Pray for yourself. The arrogance is stunning. I never called you an enemy, but you did me and then you say you will pray for me? Using prayer in a condescending way, does not sit well with me.

 

[justbyfaith]

Calling a person your enemy and then saying ,"I'll pray for you." No thanks. I don't care for any double-minded person's prayers. Pray for yourself. The arrogance is stunning.

You don't even realize what you sound like here.

I'm going to pray for you (and have already done so) whether you like it or not...deal with it.

Because the fact that you are pointing the finger at me and crying "double-minded" and "arrogance" indicates to me that you have three fingers pointing back at you (Matthew 7:1-6) and therefore you need my prayers.

Gal 4:29, But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

 

[justbyfaith]

edited #542

@Preacher4Truth.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Delusional.
You are not being persecuted.

Agreed on both accounts.