Saying you are without sin verses in 1 John

[savedbygrace1]

Right, it’s called believing all of the Bible. If you did, you would explain the verses I put forth to you.

All you do is woodenly recite the letter you choose to recite, huge swathes of it. In my view, that is normally showing a lack of discernment.

 

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All you do is woodenly recite the letter you choose to recite, huge swathes of it. In my view, that is normally showing a lack of discernment.

I already shown you that the letter is the Torah and not the Laws of Christ. Stop it already. That’s not what that passage means. Paul is referring to how we are to follow the ways of the Spirit now and not the Torah. They did not have a complete New Testament in book form like we do when Paul was writing to the Corinthians. The letter was in reference to the Torah and not the letters he was writing to the churches.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I already shown you that the letter is the Torah and not the Laws of Christ. Stop it already. That’s not what that passage means. Paul is referring to how we are to follow the ways of the Spirit now and not the Torah. They did not have a complete New Testament in book form like we do when Paul was writing to the Corinthians.

If you understood the basics of Pauls message you would know the reason he kept insisting believers must die to righteousness of obeying the law was because of the ten commandments.

 

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If you understood the basics of Pauls message you would know the reason he kept insisting believers must die to righteousness of obeying the law was because of the ten commandments.

I shown you that this is baloney because Paul refers to circumcision in Galatians 5:2. Paul condemns the Galatians in being circumcised in Galatians 5:2. He said Christ will profit you nothing if they are circumcised. This obviously relates to the Jerusalem council event in Acts 15 when the council addressed the problem of certain Jews trying to deceive Gentile Christians into thinking they had to be circumcised in order to be saved.

 

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If you understood the basics of Pauls message you would know the reason he kept insisting believers must die to righteousness of obeying the law was because of the ten commandments.

Also, the 10 were written on tablets of stone and not exclusively in letter (manuscript) form.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I shown you that this is baloney .

So it is baloney, the reason Paul kept insisting you must die to rightoeueness of obeying the law was because of the moral law/ten commandments.
I am going to have to put you on ignore. It is sad when someone has read the bible as much as you obviously have yet you do not understand the fundamental basic message of Paul. Goodbye

 

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So it is baloney, the reason Paul kept insisting you must die to rightoeueness of obeying the law was because of the moral law/ten commandments.
I am going to have to put you on ignore. It is sad when someone has read the bible as much as you obviously have yet you do not understand the fundamental message of Paul. Goodbye

So you put people on ignore if they show you Scripture verses like Galatians 5:2, and Acts 15? Okay. Wow.

 

[ChristisGod]

So you put people on ignore if they show you Scripture verses like Galatians 5:2, and Acts 15? Okay. Wow.

Irony

 

[savedbygrace1]

Irony

Do you accept the reason Paul kept repeating you cannot be righteous by obeying the law was because of the moral law/ten commandments?

 

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Do you accept the reason Paul kept repeating you cannot be righteous by obeying the law was because of the moral law/ten commandments?

The Sabbath is not really exclusively a moral law alone. At the heart, it’s a ritual law or a ceremonial law. Nobody can instinctively obey the Sabbath without God telling them about it. Moral laws are doing good instinctively without a command telling you to do it.

“For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law,…” (Romans 2:14).

 

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There are more moral laws even in the Old Covenant Law. Laws on proper sexual conduct in Leviticus 18 are a few more moral laws.

 

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Colossians 2:16 makes it clear that we don’t have to keep the Saturday Sabbath command. Why? Because we are not under the Old Laws given to Israel by Moses. Christians are under the Laws that come from Jesus Christ and His followers. We follow Jesus, and not Moses.

 

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Bye

May God bless you.

 

[ScottA]

But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker. Gal2: 17&18
Who specifically is Paul speaking of in the above? Justification is instantaneous when we accept Christ. What justification is Paul speaking of in those verses, it is one that takes time to achieve, and whilst this justification is taking place it is evident the people are sinners

This is that cusp I spoke of. He speaks to those who have been called, but not necessarily chosen...meaning they were not as yet saved.

 

[Taken]

You would literally be surprised at the number of people who actually say they are without sin maam. Puzzles the heck out of me, I sin every single day. The world is designed to see to it that individuals do sin every day. You know though, one day in the near future that will not be the case.

I have never heard one person say they were without sin.
There is a difference between without sin and committing sin.
You say you sin everyday. <— That is committing sin.

All humans are naturally born in sin.
A person Converted IN Christ, is not without sin.
A person Converted IN Christ, has forgiven sin.
A person Converted IN Christ, has covered sin.
The Covering is the Light of the Spirit of God IN a Converted person. That Light makes the mans sin so God can not anymore see that mans sin, and no more remembers that mans sin.
A person Converted IN Christ, sins no more, they Can’t.
A person Converted IN Christ, occupies Jesus’ risen body.

How be it that you are Converted, Have Gods Spirit IN You, and Continue to Sin?
Do you speak against God? Deny God? Deny Christ the Lord Jesus? Encourage people to be against the Lord God?
What are the sins you commit every day AGAINST the Lord God?

Are you Jewish, under the Law?

Puzzled you sin everyday while the Lord Gods Spirit is IN you...and you are occupying Jesus’ sinless risen body.

Expound please.
Taken

 

[Jim B]

There is no person who does not sin (the obvious exception being Jesus Christ, who was entirely without sin). As we go through life there is a constant battle between "the flesh" and the Spirit (if you're a Christian. If you're not then you're ruled by "the flesh"). Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit to be our guide, but He didn't expect us to be entirely sinless as long as we are living in our mortal bodies.

It is a constant battle, but -- and this is important -- we have the power to overcome sin. We will never do it perfectly, but as long as we listen to that "inner voice" and differentiate between what is sinful and what is not and act accordingly, we are acceptable in God's sight.

Never forget, the penalty for everyone's sins have been paid for by Jesus' crucifixion. We are justified by faith!

 

[ChristisGod]

Do you accept the reason Paul kept repeating you cannot be righteous by obeying the law was because of the moral law/ten commandments?

Do you accept Paul said and commanded believers to live by the spirit snd bear the fruit of the spirit snd not the sinful desires of the flesh ?

 

[savedbygrace1]

This is that cusp I spoke of. He speaks to those we have been called, but not necessarily chosen...meaning they were not as yet saved.

They were seeking to be justified in(in) Christ. They had already come to Christ, and he had accepted them

 

[savedbygrace1]

Do you accept Paul said and commanded believers to live by the spirit snd bear the fruit of the spirit snd not the sinful desires of the flesh ?

Why can you not answer the question? I will assume you do not know the answer. At least that is better than responding it is baloney. It would do you good to learn of its validity, it is central to Paul's main message
Of course believers are to live by the Spirit/follow after him, bear fruit and not the desires of the flesh. But no one rigidly without deviation always adheres to that, as you really should know

 

[Taken]

None of us are perfect; even Jesus knew his human side made him less than perfect-
"A certain ruler asked him, “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered, “No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)

But as Christians we're a lot more perfect than those who aren't..:)

Jesus was not a human.
Humans come from dust of the Earth.
Jesus, the Word of God came forth out from Gods Mouth.
The Word of God Is the MAKER of all men, pretty sure He was quite
...familiar with everything He made.
Jesus was not “less” than perfect.
Jesus came from Heaven to Earth, Humbled, without Reputation, to Accomplish certain things in Service to God.

Glory to God,
Taken