Real Christians

[Pet]

“Bless me O God. O may I be a real vital Christian.” - William Wilberforce

I like his attitude.

Perfect conclusion ☺ G bless

 

[Matthias]

No, Jesus was not agnostic

I didn’t say that Jesus was agnostic. I’ve always consistently said that Jesus is a Jewish monotheist.

The God of Jewish monotheists is the Father alone.

The God of Jesus is the Father alone.

You must have misunderstood what I said in post #38. I was referring in that post to @2bme, not to the Messiah.

The scriptures confirm that Jesus’ God is the Father alone.

@2bme’s membership registration confirms that he self-identifies as agnostic.

 

[Pet]

Jesus is God.
Jesus said God is Spirit

 

[2bme]

Jesus is God.
Jesus said God is Spirit

Which means?

 

[2bme]

I didn’t say that Jesus was agnostic. I’ve always consistently said that Jesus is a Jewish monotheist.

The God of Jewish monotheists is the Father alone.

The God of Jesus is the Father alone.

You must have misunderstood what I said in post #38. I was referring in that post to @2bme, not to the Messiah.

The scriptures confirm that Jesus’ God is the Father alone.

@2bme’s membership registration confirms that he self-identifies as agnostic.

I'm a Eggnostic. I'm never sure if I have enough eggs or not.

 

[Dash RipRock]

As I said, I appreciate your interest, but I still don’t know why you’re interested in my faith story.

I simply asked what did you do in order to get born again.

How much interest do you have in discussing Jewish monotheism?

Are you saying you reject Christ as your Lord and Savior like the Jews?

Well, I asked if you wanted to know how I became a Christian before or after my conversion from trinitarianism to Jewish monotheism.

Sounds like you did what the Galatians did - fell from grace.

The restrictions came from my request to change my registration from “Christian” to “Other Faith”.

1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Alright, who told you to say that?

It wasn't the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.

He's one of those followers of the fake "reformed" so called gospel

Next he'll be telling us God only assigned salvation to a few and He created all others to burn in hell

“Bless me O God. O may I be a real vital Christian.” - William Wilberforce

I like his attitude.

That's the attitude of someone who does not know God's Word.

Apparently 'ol Wilbur either couldn't read or did not have a Bible.

The scriptures confirm that Jesus’ God is the Father alone.

So you claim to believe in the Father but reject Jesus as being God then right?
And you also reject the Holy Spirit as being God?

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Concerning the trinity... the Father, the Son, and the Spirit... are One and at the same time They are Three

You should read the first chapter of the Book of John, unless of course your handlers have forbidden you to read the New Testament.

 

[Matthias]

I simply asked what did you do in order to get born again.




Are you saying you reject Christ as your Lord and Savior like the Jews?




Sounds like you did what the Galatians did - fell from grace.




1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;




It wasn't the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.

He's one of those followers of the fake "reformed" so called gospel

Next he'll be telling us God only assigned salvation to a few and He created all others to burn in hell




That's the attitude of someone who does not know God's Word.

Apparently 'ol Wilbur either couldn't read or did not have a Bible.




So you claim to believe in the Father but reject Jesus as being God then right?
And you also reject the Holy Spirit as being God?

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Concerning the trinity... the Father, the Son, and the Spirit... are One and at the same time They are Three

You should read the first chapter of the Book of John, unless of course your handlers have forbidden you to read the New Testament.

Your feedback tells me two important things: you don’t know / understand what I believe and your motive isn’t to learn.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Your feedback tells me two important things: you don’t know / understand what I believe and your motive isn’t to learn.

Learn what?

How to not follow what God's Word teaches so I'd have to quit calling myself a Christian?

Being a Christian means being a follower (imitator) of God as one of His Dear Children found in Ephesians 5:1

Because He has predestined us to be conformed to the Image of Jesus Christ found in Romans 8:29,30

Meaning those who who have found the narrow path leading to Life Jesus spoke of in Matthew 7:13-14 don't forsake their calling

 

[Behold]

Being a Christian means being a follower (imitator) of God as one of His Dear Children found in Ephesians 5:1

You are describing a disciple, and you can be one of those and not be a real Christian.

Let me show you who is most surprised, who died today, and went directly to Hell.

A.) A Water Baptized Religious Church Member, who went to Church for 40 yrs, on time.

See, being water baptized and going to Church most of your life while trying to be an imitation copy of some idea you have of Jesus's behavior, is not the same as being an actual CHRISTian.

So, who then is an actual CHRISTian?

Jesus answered this question like this.........

AA.) "YOU.. .must be Born.....again".

= There is where a "Christian" is found.

 

[Dash RipRock]

You are describing a disciple, and you can be one of those and not be a real Christian.

No, only Judas who chose to turn away from the Lord forsaking his salvation quit being a follower (imitator) of God as one of His Dear Children found in Ephesians 5:1

Instead Judas became a follower of the devil which makes him one of the devil's children

trying to be an imitation copy of some idea you have of Jesus's behavior

So real Christians disregard Ephesians 5:1 as being untrue then?

AA.) "YOU.. .must be Born.....again".

= There is where a "Christian" is found.

Yes and those following the Lord would obey His instructions to become born again among other instructions found in the New Covenant

 

[Behold]

No, only Judas who chose to turn away from the Lord forsaking his salvation

Actually many Disciples turned away from Jesus, and then Jesus said to the Apostles......"will you leave also".

Later, when Paul was in the Ministry...one of his converts....(Demas) turned away from Jesus.....and left the ministry.

 

[Dash RipRock]

Actually many Disciples turned away from Jesus, and then Jesus said to the Apostles......"will you leave also".

But only one who was hand picked by Jesus decided to turn away and serve satan.

Being a Christian means being a follower (imitator) of God as one of His Dear Children found in Ephesians 5:1

Following the Lord means doing what Jesus did which is NOT turning away when presented with opportunity to do so.

 

[Gottservant]

I had a premonition about this thread - what do you make of that?

I was asking myself "I have faith, but how do I know?"

"You are my disciples, if you do what I say" that was Jesus' take.

 

[Matthias]

Did Jesus follow Jesus?

No, but he did follow someone.

 

[Pet]

Which means?

Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
1722 [e]Ἐν
En
In [the]Prep746 [e]ἀρχῇ
archēbeginningN-DFS1510 [e]ἦν
ēnwasV-IIA-3S3588 [e]ὁ
hotheArt-NMS3056 [e]Λόγος,
LogosWord,N-NMS2532 [e]καὶ
kaiandConj3588 [e]ὁ
hotheArt-NMS3056 [e]Λόγος
LogosWordN-NMS1510 [e]ἦν
ēnwasV-IIA-3S4314 [e]πρὸς
proswithPrep3588 [e]τὸν
ton-Art-AMS2316 [e]Θεόν,
TheonGod,N-AMS2532 [e]καὶ
kaiandConj2316 [e]Θεὸς
TheosGodN-NMS1510 [e]ἦν
ēnwasV-IIA-3S3588 [e]ὁ
hotheArt-NMS3056 [e]Λόγος.
LogosWord.N-NMS

 

[Ritajanice]

As a Born Again...I worship the Living Spirit Of God.....and talk about him, most of the day on this very forum.LOL.

I yearn to know His Living Heart more and more....Praise God.

 

[Pet]

John 14: 7-11 Wesley's commentary.

John 14:7
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Wesley-14:7 Ye have known - Ye have begun to know him.

John 14:8
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 14:10
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

wesley-14:10 I am in the Father - The words that I speak, and c. - That is, I am one with the Father, in essence, in speaking, and in acting.

John 14:11
Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

wesley-14:11 Believe me - On my own word, because I am God. The works - This respects not merely the miracles themselves, but his sovereign, Godlike way of performing them.

 

[2bme]

Strong'sGreekEnglishMorphology
1722 [e]Ἐν
En
In [the]Prep746 [e]ἀρχῇ
archēbeginningN-DFS1510 [e]ἦν
ēnwasV-IIA-3S3588 [e]ὁ
hotheArt-NMS3056 [e]Λόγος,
LogosWord,N-NMS2532 [e]καὶ
kaiandConj3588 [e]ὁ
hotheArt-NMS3056 [e]Λόγος
LogosWordN-NMS1510 [e]ἦν
ēnwasV-IIA-3S4314 [e]πρὸς
proswithPrep3588 [e]τὸν
ton-Art-AMS2316 [e]Θεόν,
TheonGod,N-AMS2532 [e]καὶ
kaiandConj2316 [e]Θεὸς
TheosGodN-NMS1510 [e]ἦν
ēnwasV-IIA-3S3588 [e]ὁ
hotheArt-NMS3056 [e]Λόγος.
LogosWord.N-NMS

That not what I was asking. What does your posts comment meen to you personally.

 

[2bme]

There's something fishy going on here: