Q for JW- KIEW?

[Keiw]

Then he acts like a kid

Then he acts like a kid

How is it i have all this bible knowledge, and knowledge of history of God, religions, etc--no kid does.

 

[Keiw]

So when a Truth is due, it's Truth. Nothing should change that. So why, since your Lord supposedly returned in 1914, has the Truth changed over, and over and over again??? If it was Truth in 1914, or 1918, why isn't it Truth today?

When God wills=due season a truth gets known, not before. I see your answer to truths revealed in the last days= 0 in your religion.

 

[Berean]

How is it i have all this bible knowledge, and knowledge of history of God, religions, etc--no kid does.

Knowledge? History? Religions? As Vinnie Barbarino would say "what? Where?"

 

[PS95]

When God wills=due season a truth gets known, not before. I see your answer to truths revealed in the last days= 0 in your religion.

Did you ever use the name cort24?

 

[PS95]

Did you ever use the name cort24?

@Keiw you were cort24 huh? I remember you

 

[Keiw]

@Keiw you were cort24 huh? I remember you

No i was not ever.

 

[PS95]

No i was not ever.

didya read Romans 6 yet?

 

[Keiw]

didya read Romans 6 yet?

Many times.

 

[PS95]

Many times.

good. so do you still think that Romans 6:7 means that when you die your sins are forgiven?

 

[Keiw]

good. so do you still think that Romans 6:7 means that when you die your sins are forgiven?

All sin is acquitted at death.
Face the facts-God has already judged the wages of sin= death. He would never rejudge one on past sins once dead. The resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will, its why satan gets loosed again to test their faith. The righteous and those who did vile things get resurrected-- Dan 12: 2:3=( speaking of the resurrection) many will be brought to righteousness--its not the already righteous that get brought to righteousness, its the ones who learn and apply and pass the final test that weren't righteous in this lifetime. Most in the OT never heard the name Jesus, Many never knew the true God or his will.

 

[Wrangler]

good. so do you still think that Romans 6:7 means that when you die your sins are forgiven?

This is your question @ post #369? It seems you are not understanding what is written.

All sin is acquitted at death.

Compare to my first post in this thread.

I really don't know how you come to that based on the verse. A debt paid is not the same as a debt forgiven.

Seems like @PS95 is caught up in semantics. NOTE: Keiw has not answered your yes or no question in terms of yes or no? (This suggests semantics).

A woman convicted of murder sentenced to life is not "forgiven" upon death. Rather, she has paid the full price, as I wrote. Keiw uses the term "acquitted." Let's examine this word acquit.

acquit​

verb​

1: to discharge completely (as from an accusation or obligation)
The court acquittedthe prisoner.

2: to conduct (oneself) usually satisfactorily especially under stress
The recruits acquittedthemselves like veterans.

3 a archaic : to pay off (something, such as a claim or debt)
b obsolete : repay, requite

After 370 posts, I think you have to admit that @Keiw has answered your question many, MANY times. What is it about the word "aquit" @PS95 that you refuse to accept from Keiw as not being forgiven?

 

[PS95]

This is your question @ post #369? It seems you are not understanding what is written.

Compare to my first post in this thread.


Seems like @PS95 is caught up in semantics. NOTE: Keiw has not answered your yes or no question in terms of yes or no? (This suggests semantics).

A woman convicted of murder sentenced to life is not "forgiven" upon death. Rather, she has paid the full price, as I wrote. Keiw uses the term "acquitted." Let's examine this word acquit.

acquit​

verb​

1: to discharge completely (as from an accusation or obligation)
The court acquittedthe prisoner.

2: to conduct (oneself) usually satisfactorily especially under stress
The recruits acquittedthemselves like veterans.

3 a archaic : to pay off (something, such as a claim or debt)
b obsolete : repay, requite

After 370 posts, I think you have to admit that @Keiw has answered your question many, MANY times. What is it about the word "aquit" @PS95 that you refuse to accept from Keiw as not being forgiven?

Hello again Wrangler,
Of course you are correct that a debt paid is not the same as a debt forgiven. Have I argued that? No. Has Keiw? No. hmmm
Why not when I keep using "forgiven" on purpose AFTER 370 POSTS?! duh.

 

[Wrangler]

Have I argued that? No. Has Keiw? No. hmmm
Why not when I keep using "forgiven" on purpose AFTER 370 POSTS?! duh.

I don’t know what this axe to grind is that you seem to have.

I do believe Keith has argued that. Only he used the word acquitted where I used the word repaid.

Perhaps he has not answered yes or no. Are people’s sins forgiven upon death? To me, the answer is no; they are acquitted. What say you @Keiw?

 

[PS95]

All sin is acquitted at death.
Face the facts-God has already judged the wages of sin= death. He would never rejudge one on past sins once dead. The resurrected get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will, its why satan gets loosed again to test their faith. The righteous and those who did vile things get resurrected-- Dan 12: 2:3=( speaking of the resurrection) many will be brought to righteousness--its not the already righteous that get brought to righteousness, its the ones who learn and apply and pass the final test that weren't righteous in this lifetime. Most in the OT never heard the name Jesus, Many never knew the true God or his will.

Hi Keiw,
We are going in circles every time we talk on any thread. It's certainly not peculiar to this one is it? lol I will try to meet you where you are by addressing only one thing at a time.
You still ignoring the context surrounding Ro 6:7? You refuse to discuss the surrounding verses with me. WHY?
Let's look together in context-- Ro 6:3-8, 11-14--

Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin for he who has died is freed from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, ....... Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts, and do not go on presenting the members of your body to sin as instruments of unrighteousness; but present yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

Do these verses speak of physical death or as a new creature while alive?

 

[PS95]

I don’t know what this axe to grind is that you seem to have.

I do believe Keith has argued that. Only he used the word acquitted where I used the word repaid.

Perhaps he has not answered yes or no. Are people’s sins forgiven upon death? To me, the answer is no; they are acquitted. What say you @Keiw?

will you stop? axe? seems you have one with me? You are totally missing my point.

 

[PS95]

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Revelation 20:10
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Amen Jesus!

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH. Please stop misleading folks to think it does. ZERO ZILCH NADA.

 

[Wrangler]

You are totally missing my point.

Would it be correct to say that you believe that when you die, your sins will be forgiven automatically because you died?

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH. Please stop misleading folks to think it does. ZERO ZILCH NADA.

What a mess!

 

[PS95]

What a mess!

oh please put 2 +2 together. hellfire. it's not about after death= hellfire. ok? Isnt that what Jack always puts? all spelled out for you wrangler. knock it off. you are starting to be like a Zao. lol --be nice and go annoy someone else.

 

[Jack]

You're splitting hairs.

That is NOT TRUE. I was not baptized as JW. I am aware of much of what you teach and the organization's history. THAT MAKES YOU SHUN ME?!!!! How cowardly of you. Only the ignorant of your teachings allowed in your world?
When my father died, my Jw relative told me that our dad died for forgiveness of his own sins. I posted that conversation on here. Didnt you read my post? THAT, I had not been taught before! If it was, I sure didn't catch it.
You deny Christ by trying to substitute yourself as sacrifice for your own sins! You are not spotless and blameless and will be rejected as the atonement for your own sins ! That is INSANE! THIS IS THE WORST JW LIE. Read Romans in CONTEXT. I posted it all for you. You have ignored it! Why?
It is a simple choice- DEATH or CHRIST.
OR are you here just to bait and argue hellfire and the trinity with uninformed Christians who don't know any better. YES, that is what JWS do. Deceive.

Well said!

 

[Wrangler]

be nice and go annoy someone else.

I’m not nice but am good. Too bad you are annoyed. Perhaps you could try making a cogent point?

Seems to me you are striving toward a ‘gotcha’ angle. That’s not nice.