I agree... and it is with a sorrowful heart that I observe what is occurring.
Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020
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I agree... and it is with a sorrowful heart that I observe what is occurring.
Taken
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Taken
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The Lie meter just dinged...
Gas lighters are Transparent.
Foreign Gas lighters are a Nuisance.
Go buzz around your own porch...and don't concern yourself how Americans Sweep their own porch.
There is no "we" and "our" between the US Republic and the UK Parliament and "Monarchy".
Taken
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John 13:34 A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
John 13:35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
Romans 12:10 Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.
Romans 12:16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
Romans 14:13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.
Romans 15:7 Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
Ephesians 4:2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.
Ephesians 4:32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ, God forgave you.
Ephesians 5:19 Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,
Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
1 Peter 3:8 Live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.
John 13:35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.
Romans 12:10 Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.
Romans 12:16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.
Romans 14:13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.
Romans 15:7 Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order to bring praise to God.
Ephesians 4:2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.
Ephesians 4:32 Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ, God forgave you.
Ephesians 5:19 Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,
Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
1 Peter 3:8 Live in harmony with one another; be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble.
Grailhunter
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This entire thread is TOXIC....This is shameful....negativity.
I imagine if you were in a boxing ring you would be wondering why your opponent was hitting you.
If you think it stinks don't put your nose in it...but at least do not complain when you choose to rub your nose in it.
Politics and religion, they say it is impolite to bring these topics up. We are a little past that. As it is I find it civil, considering all the differing opinions of religions and politics on an international forum....no surprises.
Is there such a thing as a praise and worship only Christian site. I would not mind that.
I guess what you are calling rubbing my nose in it... is actually a WONDERING of when it comes to an end... This thread has turned into
a run on BASHING of America versus United Kingdom... and people are talking AT each other... rather to TO each other...
I guess I am simply not used to how forum debates work... or maybe... I am expecting too much of Christians ability to communicate with respect... YES... this thread has become TOXIC.
*** I corrected my original comment to say... This thread has BECOME toxic.
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WaterSong
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WaterSong
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That's right! You tell 'em, guy with a picnic plate for a face profile picture. You tell 'em. ;)
WaterSong
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Looking forward to the answer to that myself.
Considering it is the Democrats on record who avow the positives of Communism and indeed have one long time serving Senator, Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who prefers that to our current model.
Notice how Democrats talking points in their speeches mimic those of Karl Marx? That's no coincidence.
What is often overlooked too is how Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi once claimed, she in her office has equal or greater power than our president. Never said that under Obama but feels free to make the claim now under Trump whom she despises.
Therefore, if this is a Communist country or that model is being ushered in, it is and can only be done under the Legislature. And that would mean starting with the House of Representatives, wherein the Democrats are in majority
From your words you seem to deny our common faith in the Kingdom and the bond of the fellowship of the Holy Spirit.
If you want to hold Trump up as your president and leader on all levels, that is your choice.
I object in the strongest terms to those who claim God is behind Trump and he is Gods choice or Gods call to justice and truth.
It is this language which causes division and hatred, which is dangerous and bodes badly for the future.
I am not surprised the prosperity gospel folk nailed their colours to this mast, as they sink into the swamp of greed and self interest.
This is the sunset of such frauds and liars, but then they recognise one of their own.
The problem with getting involved in politics which the christian right have done, is when they support lies, slander and sedition.
Part of the american way of life is separation between church and state. It is a betrayal of this heritage to now support through law the imposition of religious practice and will fail when those who have good legal grounds to oppose this. But then maybe in truth the right never wanted democracy, rather dictator Trump would suit them better from the beginning.
God bless you
I am sorry, I apologize that you have given the expected response.
Truth does not seek approval, it is the stone the builders rejected, a stumbling rock, the seat of judgement, the end of the road.
I looked at history expecting to see a different approach to power, idealism and politics. Unfortunately rebels and those wish to oppose the status quo power always go the same way. They get a following, stir up violence, break out in a movement and then get crushed.
One fellow believed he was a prophet. Stood against soldiers and thought he could not be harmed. His dead body soon proved how wrong he was.
And that my friends is the difference between delusion and truth. In a democracy argument is our means of power and persuasion, because in the end everyone has to get back to discussions after the violence. It is the lesson of history. It is so much better to skip the killing part, and go from the issues to resolution. And resolution comes from loving your enemies, and seeing the strength of both sides.
Until one can get there, the path to conflict is still playing strong. But in Jesus and the Lord of justice and peace, there is always hope.
God bless you
Bobby Jo
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Dear GH,
Ummmmmmm, if we weren't in a war there'd be no fighting. But we DO fight against darkness both for ourselves and others.
Perhaps when the war is ended and Jesus has won (at the end of the Millennial Kingdom) we can all rejoice in Heaven. But for now, I agree that we should IGNORE the trolls, inform the ignorant, rebuke the wayward, and exhort the saints. :)
With Very Best Regards,
Bobby Jo
Grailhunter
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No that is not what I mean.
You have to click the button to keep coming back to this thread. And then you complain when you do. There is no logic to that.
Canada and England are good people, been there did that.
Debate is what it is. Some strong opinions out there.
Don't be so thin skinned.
Grailhunter
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There is no doubt that Christ could settle all of this. But until then and from the beginning, from Noah and Abraham on, God has assigned champions to do what needed to be done....
What I mean is I keep EXPECTING people to communicate with respect...
Yes... I have been following this thread because I once thought it would give me more accurate information on what is happening.
Complain?? Hmmm.... I guess I do complain about the lack of respect.... but I do glean from the information provided ( when it is provided ).
I have not made a secret out of the fact that I enjoy @FollowHim's contributions... because I have been able to understand him... He speaks concisely and in a manner I can understand.
I do not have a thin skin... I guess my problem is I have no tolerance for poor communication skills.
Topics of all kinds are interesting when they are discussed properly.
WaterSong
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I've not found one as yet. All forums I've seen have a political or news forum. Or, on the rare occasion in those I remember lurking in to see how things went, it was inevitable that politics and the news would be brought into a discussion. As I recall that was in the General Discussion forum.
Politics is a heated beast and because of its effect and direct impact on the lives of millions. The voter can be expected to take it seriously when the egregious theft of our individual vote is abridged by theft. And this, not only an offense and patently illegal, to fulfill the agenda of what is today the Dark Left, Democrats, and their sponsors both foreign and domestic.
Joe Biden forewarned Americans of his plans should he take office. Many perhaps did not cast their vote thinking there is no way a man so mentally fatigued and suffering dementia would win highest office. And yet, when Trump was winning on election eve those thoughts appeared to come true. Until the witching hour; midnight. When a landslide of votes flushed in for Biden.
The evidence, contrary to the collaborators in The Steal and their staunch supporters errant belief, is irrefutable. And if to be believed, the Dark Left know this too and are threatened by the facts to the point a terrorist was sent to destroy the location wherein the Dominion voting machines were to be investigated; the AT&T building in Tennessee.
One wonders how much that dead terrorist garnered for his surviving family in order to pull off this attack.
However, in fairness, passions stir also in BDF. Every forum I've reviewed or been a member of can attest to that. Two topics people are passionate about. Their faith, and the politics that govern their lives.
And lastly, just for the record, for those who think to enter in and judge the passions Christians share with regard to their national future, in this thread in particular and given the offense of The Steal, I don't think one can participate in the thread and then cast aspersions upon others for speaking their own mind.
Yes, there are trolls here. Yes, there are those who hate America here.
Those who know nothing of our history and yet bloviate in their ignorance, hoping to inspire responses in kind. We know them by their words. We know them by their hateful vitriol that closes out invoking a blessing from God upon that one they just attacked. However, those are ones that we can either choose to entertain further or ignore.
One's responsibility is to themselves here. If one does not appreciate hate filled rhetoric, ignore it, but don't mimic it. However, in my opinion, don't be surprised nor condemning when Americans grow upset at their nation being stolen from them through the inroad of polling. Nor be surprised when those who condemn our resolve to not stand for it since it is deeply personal to have ones personal future reworked by criminals following the agenda of Satan are rebuked.
War isn't fought with daisy's and heart balloons sent across the lines. And make no mistake this is already a war. The first "shot" was fired the moment The Steal was conceived in the minds of our enemies.
Some people are afraid of that word, war. Odd, being America was founded as a free nation through that very method. And God knows war is all through the Bible's Old Testament. God's army being the Hebrews. No heart balloons or daisy's there either.
Hate is ugly. So too is Treason.
WaterSong
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I guess it depends on what one defines as, poor communication skills.
Unfortunately, what you do not see or choose to ignore is that FH speaks falsely. That's a poor communication skill. Especially when it repeats itself with purpose despite repeated efforts by others to correct the ignorance that gives it voice.
As has been pointed out to him and those who read those posts attesting to that time and again. FH does not learn from what truths are shared to correct their misinformation. Therefore it is natural to arrive at the conclusion they are committed to disinformation.
Further, if you expect respect to be shared in these forums, you're backing the wrong horse in that one. They show nothing of the kind. They demonstrate they are boldly, unapologetically, anti-America and anti-Christian.
Therefore, you may want to reassess the bar by which you measure respect. Especially if you think to sponsor one such as that and ridicule those he targets for their not smiling and asking for one more slap in the face.
And too, remember, as ye judge so too are ye judged. How have you communicated in your time here?
You cannot control what people think or how they give voice to their opinions of this particular and deeply personal subject. If you imagine we should concern ourselves with what you think of our passion for our nation being the target of the agents of Satan, that would be a mistake. But it does appear you do believe we should meet your criteria when we speak to one another about a deeply personal issue.
You keep returning to this thread....but do not participate save to criticize.
WaterSong
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Ah, RINO's. Awesomely gorgeous and majestic on the plains of Africa. Not so much in the halls of Congress.
Taken
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It appears the Brit wants to be recognized as an American Democrat.
I am and American, Under a Republic Government and Stand for the Rule of VALID Law.
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