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Well I assume you believe doing the works of God is doing good. So you actually have a problem with Jesus Himself!

John 6:28-29
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28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

They asked what to DO- Jesus said believe on HIM! Everything else flows from that point on.

Just because you want to be like Cain and present to God some of your own good works so that you can have some credit in your salvation doesn't alter the truth of Scripture.

Ephesians 2:8-10
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8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Salvation is by trusting in grace (Gods unearned favor) without any works. Any good works we do that survive are works enabled by the Holy Spirit in us and then through us!

there your questions have3 been answered by Gods Word and not my opinion!

You have proven already you have no real defense when you twisted the scriptue as you continue to do.

It's what OSAS has to do in order to prove the lie.
 

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Actually yes it does

You keep throwing out works.

So show me one christian that does not have works?

The subject was do we need to do works in order to be saved, so, no, you are wrong, your change of the suject has nothing to do with the subject at hand. It is merly an attempt for you to be right about something to confuse people into thinking you are right about your general stance.

IOW, just another of many deceptions on this thread that are easy to see through.
 

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Well I assume you believe doing the works of God is doing good. So you actually have a problem with Jesus Himself!

John 6:28-29
King James Version

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

They asked what to DO- Jesus said believe on HIM! Everything else flows from that point on.

Just because you want to be like Cain and present to God some of your own good works so that you can have some credit in your salvation doesn't alter the truth of Scripture.

Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Salvation is by trusting in grace (Gods unearned favor) without any works. Any good works we do that survive are works enabled by the Holy Spirit in us and then through us!

there your questions have3 been answered by Gods Word and not my opinion!
Their having no respect for God's word may explain why you're unable to reach such people.

We're being Trolled. By more than one or by one with more than one name.
Their efforts show exactly what they worship. The adversary to our faith. And they feed on our attention.
 
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The subject was do we need to do works in order to be saved, so, no, you are wrong, your change of the suject has nothing to do with the subject at hand. It is merly an attempt for you to be right about something to confuse people into thinking you are right about your general stance.

IOW, just another of many deceptions on this thread that are easy to see through.
Dude your the one who asked me about works

but I see you continue to prove your just a troll

again, good day, when you actually want to sit and talk like grown people, come talk to me
 
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Dude your the one who asked me about works

but I see you continue to prove your just a troll

again, good day, when you actually want to sit and talk like grown people, come talk to me

Your only making yourself look worse (if that is even possible) at this point, so not sure why you persist with your nonsense.
 
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You have proven already you have no real defense when you twisted the scriptue as you continue to do.

It's what OSAS has to do in order to prove the lie.


Well that is your allegation, but all you do is throw out an allegation without providing the supposed evidence to prove your allegation.

I await for you to show where I have twisted Scriptures.

Please show me where I am twisting these SCriptures:

Hebrews 13:5
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Jesus said He would never leave us!

Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

How am I twisting this Scripture.

John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

How am I twisting this Scripture.

Ephesians 2:7-9
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7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast

And this one?

Romans 10:9
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9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.


where am I twisting here????
 
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Their having no respect for God's word may explain why you're unable to reach such people.

We're being Trolled. By more than one or by one with more than one name.
Their efforts show exactly what they worship. The adversary to our faith. And they feed on our attention.


What does this even mean?
 

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I await for you to show where I have twisted Scriptures.

Please show me where I am twisting these SCriptures:

I already did...I was very clear, and I will not keep repeating mysel. You may read back a few posts, and I assure you the explanations are there. You missed it because you didn't want to see what was right there all along.
 

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Also, consider now how many OSAS threads there are.
Should we not see this as a major Satanic campaign against Gospel truth and the eternal security of the believer? Satan hates the Savior and God's plan of salvation. So we have these time-wasting threads.
 
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I already did...I was very clear, and I will not keep repeating mysel. You may read back a few posts, and I assure you the explanations are there. You missed it because you didn't want to see what was right there all along.

Well I went back to the page before you and I started debating and you have yet to provide the tiniest bit of yor evidence that I have twisted any scripture. Just a load of allegations. So either you have me confused with someone else or you are lying. I will leave that to you to decide.
 

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Should we not see this as a major Satanic campaign against Gospel truth and the eternal security of the believer? Satan hates the Savior and God's plan of salvation. So we have these time-wasting threads.


Well Satan does want to get us to believe that it is the blood of Jesus and our good works that keep us saved. He wants us looking at what we do, instead of who HE is!
 

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Well Satan does want to get us to believe that it is the blood of Jesus and our good works that keep us saved. He wants us looking at what we do, instead of who HE is!
If you don't have Christian works you're not a Christian! OSAS and NO WORKS fit together well. According to OSAS I can deny Jesus and blaspheme the Holy Spirit and NEVER lose my salvation! How Satanic!

James 2:26 (NKJV)
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 

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Well I went back to the page before you and I started debating and you have yet to provide the tiniest bit of yor evidence that I have twisted any scripture. Just a load of allegations. So either you have me confused with someone else or you are lying. I will leave that to you to decide.

Denial, very common among OSASr's...its all right there in black and white.
 

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Should we not see this as a major Satanic campaign against Gospel truth and the eternal security of the believer? Satan hates the Savior and God's plan of salvation. So we have these time-wasting threads.
True.
If we could only consolidate them into one thread they'd at least not take up a lot of room that way.

I wanted to add this too for when the Troll agenda posts anti-eternal salvation (anti- OSAS) threads and posts.
It's a great reminder.
Matthew 7:6
Do not give that which is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before the pigs, lest they shall trample upon them with their feet, and having turned, tear you to pieces.
 
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If you don't have Christian works you're not a Christian! OSAS and NO WORKS fit together well. According to OSAS I can deny Jesus and blaspheme the Holy Spirit and NEVER lose my salvation! How Satanic!

James 2:26 (NKJV)
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.


I Agree that good works are a resault of our salvation but not a cause of salvation or anything to do with maintaining our salvation. Just like birds fly, a believer will produce godly works.

You cannot commit the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit as defined in the gospels. You can deny Jesus, but if you were born again, Jesus will never leave you nor forsake you! You will turn from that denial at some point if you are saved. Once again someone who is saved is a child of God! At times they may be a disobedien t child, even to the point they may deny their family (God) but they are still a child.
 

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Denial, very common among OSASr's...its all right there in black and white.

Not written to me sorry, I went back 10 whole pages. so once again you either are confusing me with someone else or intentionally lying. You decide.

YOu do appear to be like many others. Love to make allegations and statements and then do all they can from having to provide the proof to back up your mouth.