One thing I strongly oppose Trump on

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Triumph1300

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Doesn't matter how complex teh history is. Ukraine was declared (with Russian support) to be a sovereign nation with defined borders. Russia invaded that sovereign nation and stole land. History may be complex- but sin is not.
But of course, as mentioned before on this thread, the agreements made with Nato were thrown in the sewer by Nato.

It does not happen how many times Mark Rutten (secretary general) opens his mouth, he is a war monger.
I am not saying Putin is a nice guy, but let's look at the facts and be honest about it.

The whole issue is a mess, and Trump is not going to change a thing.
I heard secretary of state Marco Rubio say: "It does not matter what I think or want to do, I need to do what Trump says."..... there you have it.....following dictator Trump.
They are all followers, got the job, follow orders, collect fat salaries.

And they don't care about the people suffering through it all.

"Nice Christian Politicians....all of them!

That's why this mess is happening.
 

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But of course, as mentioned before on this thread, the agreements made with Nato were thrown in the sewer by Nato.
Agreed.
The whole issue is a mess, and Trump is not going to change a thing.
I heard secretary of state Marco Rubio say: "It does not matter what I think or want to do, I need to do what Trump says."..... there you have it.....following dictator Trump.
Disagree on both counts. Rubio is not following a dictator but the duly elected head of State.

Trump has already changed a lot. Peace will be achieved with a negotiated settlement with Russia against the Globalist agenda. The USA is the fulcrum upon which it depends. Zelensky is going to have to accept whatever Trump and Putin come up with because, as Trump said, Zelensky has no cards, no negotiating position.
 

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The People in the East of Ukraine were happy to become part of Russia in fact, like around 80% of them supported that union. and then the Puppet of Ukraine wanted only War ! because his very wealthy people and investers like G Sosos etc have played the Game !

So why back Ukraine up, because that has been the most corrupt Country in the world even before the War in fact and still is the most corrupt Country on earth by far !

Now where has all of the USA money gone, that Joe Biden squandered on this way out of control corrupt Country, that is lead by the most Evil dog cunning people ! who have only rapped the real people of Ukraine in fact ! and gladly sold the East Borders into a Hell in fact, with no regard the people who lived their in fact ! They knew that the Russian People would not fall over for their Games !

A lot of the USA Tax payers money went were ? Haha ! Stupid is as Stupid does ! No one could be so stupid not to know where such money went in fact !
Like it's only criminals who lay such foundations in fact, that the story goes, like we do not know where the money went ?
Their is no excuse for anything like that at all in fact !
Like what business could get away with saying we do not know were we spent the money, to the Tax Department ? Seriously you would be busted for fraud ! as a Monumental Idiot !

I believe that many such money and weapons went too help out Islamic forces, so as too attack the State of Israel !
The Socialist Marxist Democratric Party of the USA were in cahoots with the Socialist factions in Islamic Partys and it's also within the Socialist Partys within the State of Israel in fact !
It was this Mob who tryed to undermine Israel, so as to work together and Kick out the only non Socialist Marxist Party in Israel, That is the only real true worthy Democratic in the Area in fact !

This War was all about getting rid of any right wing Political Partys in Israel in fact ! That's the Key to it all in fact !
That's what Kamala was intent was all about going on with destroying in the USA as well in fact ! It was a cunning dog show warfair on Trump in fact ! The Bad man Trump ? and all of the simpletons swallowed it all ! because they are in love with The MSM Whore.

When any Socialist mentions the Right Wing ? they say claiming all such that is any such as the Far Right ! Haha such total morons ! but it works on fools who know no better.
It's just like a Communist would make such claims in fact ! Total Retards ! who only spin such idiot propaganda in fear mongering with such stealth that simple people swallow it all.
It's like Oh No ! they fear the building blocks of what created the USA to become the greatest Nation on earth in fact ! only So it will become the dregs of the earth, because all of the foundations of Socialism is a Cancer in fact ! The Whore of whores, it rots peoples brains, it's outright brainwashing tactic in fact ! The very same foundation used in Nazi Germany and every Communist Nations, Evil filth type of brainwashing in fact ! where people become so retarded that they swallow just anything ! and the rest live in fear, so as Not to say anything ! That's how they work in fact !

The People in Nazi Germany were played in fact as were all Communist by such totaly full on total ruthless Cunning ! but most people in this era do not have a clue in regards how such cunning took hold of the People in fact ! because they are total not educated on the sub ject at all in fact, but only indoctrinated dupes in fact ! that's why people fall for all such Evil !

Where does a Government promote people of Virtue !
Where does a Government expose Malice, as the most vile depraved thing ! that should be called out directly on the spot, for what it truly is, as totaly depraved Evil ! The Governments don't ! the school system don't ! why because they are controled by Morons ! that's why the generations are full of fools and stupid TV shows promote depravity as the Norm, or the new normal ? like it's, The new norman, how stupid and pathetic ! Retards ! filth mongers in fact !
I am sick of being Lorded over by nothing but filthy idiot Trash !
 

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How does anyone expect to negotiate with a liar like Trump.
The guy spits out bs continually.

Just today I watched him tell a crowd that 38.000 Americans died while building the Panama Canal.
His reward was the crowd loudly supporting this statement by clapping hands and yelling approval.
A fast search on the internet told me about 5800 Americans died building the canal.
I never saw a politician spitting so much garbage out of his mouth like Trump does.

It's sickening, specially this guy claims to be a Christian and is supported by so many preachers.
Well....you can read in your bibles that this kind of thing will happen. I am not surprised.

And another thing....38.000 died because it was such a difficult job building the canal, Trump said.
Reason? According to Trump because the level of the Pacific Ocean is way lower than the level of the Atlantic Ocean. It's laughable!
 
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How does anyone expect to negotiate with a liar like Trump.
The guy spits out bs continually.

Just today I watched him tell a crowd that 38.000 Americans died while building the Panama Canal.
His reward was the crowd loudly supporting this statement by clapping hands and yelling approval.
A fast search on the internet told me about 5800 Americans died building the canal.
I never saw a politician spitting so much garbage out of his mouth like Trump does.

It's sickening, specially this guy claims to be a Christian and is supported by so many preachers.
Well....you can read in your bibles that this kind of thing will happen. I am not surprised.

And another thing....38.000 died because it was such a difficult job building the canal, Trump said.
Reason? According to Trump because the level of the Pacific Ocean is way lower than the level of the Atlantic Ocean. It's laughable!
So he was off on numbers and your getting your panties in a bunch railing on him over such a small thing?
 

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A small thing 38.000 or 5800? Lol
Are you serious? This guy never tells the truth on a daily basis.

Well think about it, Kamala Harris stated that 220,000,000 people in the U.S died from Covid

Thats 220 MILLION

When the U.S population is 347,275,807.

So Kamala Harrise was saying that more than half of the U.S population is dead from Covid.

I see that as a much bigger blunder, wouldnt you?

I am far more gracious about it, and just consider it a blunder, I dont run around over a misquote of numbers (which happens very frequently) and tell how uttering sickening such a person is.

Even though I think she is a bit of a whack job

 

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Problem is there are way to many daily misquotes.
Harris was no hair better.
And a big blunder or a small one makes no difference.
A big lie is the same as a small one.

And a lot of these "misquotes", are not really misquotes.
And why not apologize after a "misquote".

Liars.....the promises in scripture don't give a good report on liars.
 

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Problem is there are way to many daily misquotes.
Who are you talking about here someone you quoted?
Harris was no hair better.
Thats an understatement
And a big blunder or a small one makes no difference.
You know you yourself have most likely made much larger blunders then getting a stat wrong and have likely never apologized for it either.

I did not hear Trump because I wasnt watching the video so I only your word for it. Not that it would matter too much if I did hear it, I'm not much of a nitpicker over that sort of thing. I certainly wouldnt start hyperventilating over and calling it "sickening" Oh so "sickening". I never heard of a man getting so riled up over something so small as that.
A big lie is the same as a small one

And a lot of these "misquotes", are not really misquotes.
And why not apologize after a "misquote".

Liars.....the promises in scripture don't give a good report on liars.

A liar can be something as simple as someone saying they love God but in reality they hate their brother (1 John 4:20) it does not necessarily mean mispeaking in terms of some stat.

There isnt any promises for railers/ revilers entering the Kingdom of God either (1 Cr 5:11, 1 Cr 6:10)
 

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A small thing 38.000 or 5800? Lol
Are you serious? This guy never tells the truth on a daily basis.

Also, coming back to this for a moment, the chart at the top right of the Britannica website states that there were 25,600 fatalities related to the Panama canal


There was another on the same website (if you search through) that just said over 20,000 so whether or not there is an exact quote they differed from either of these which could be found elsewhere (from which Trump got his stat). Which I am unwilling to search through the many links there digging through all of it for something that is not that important to me.

25,600 is a little closer to 38,000 but the estimates varry between them by quite alot.
 

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Records indicate that during the period of US construction, more than 55,000 people were employed and an estimated 5,600 died of injury and disease.

This is what showed up on my screen.
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Anyhow, time will tell how this Trump fellow will run the USA in the next 4 years.
(If he can make it 4 years).
 

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Records indicate that during the period of US construction, more than 55,000 people were employed and an estimated 5,600 died of injury and disease.

This is what showed up on my screen.
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Anyhow, time will tell how this Trump fellow will run the USA in the next 4 years.
(If he can make it 4 years).
I think the larger number for the timeline pertains to both the French who lost far more than us and through disease. Whereas the U.S lost much less through better sanitation when they took over the task from the French. So the numbers combined are over 25,000 people lost in the building of the Panama canal over an extended period of time. Which just seems to include the labor of France and the U.S together for that project.
 

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This showed up on a friend's Facebook:

An open letter written by a Florida judge about the CANADA/USA relationships & history.
By Robert Meadows (Circuit Court Judge, Florida).
Here is one American’s take on the growing trade war with the US and Canada.
"Have you ever stopped to consider how lucky we Americans are to have the neighbors we have? Look around the globe at who some folks have been stuck sharing a border with over the past half century:
North Korea / South Korea
Greece / Turkey
Iran / Iraq
Israel / Palestine
India / Pakistan
China / Russia
"We’ve got Canada! Canada. About as inoffensive a neighbor as you could ever hope for. In spite of all our boasts of “American exceptionalism” and chants of “America first,” they just smile, do their thing and go about their business. They are on average more educated, have a higher standard of living, free health care, and almost no gun problems. They treat immigrants respectfully and already took in over 35,000 Syrians in the last two years.
"They’re with us in NATO, they fought alongside us in World War I, World War II, Korea, the Gulf War, the Bosnian War, Afghanistan, the Kosovo War and came to our defense after 9/11. There was that one time when Canada took a pass on one of our wars: Vietnam. Turned out to be a good call.
"They’ve been steady consumers of American imports, reliable exporters of metals and petroleum products (they are the biggest importer of U.S. products from 37 states), and partnered with NASA in our space missions.
"During 9/11 many aircraft were diverted to Newfoundland, an island province off Canada's east coast where Americans were housed in people's homes for two weeks and treated like royalty. In return for their hospitality, this administration slapped a 20% tariff on the products of Newfoundland's only paper mill, thereby threatening it's survival.
"And what do Canadians expect of us in return? To be respected for who and what they are: Canadians. That’s what I call a good neighbor.

"But the King of Chaos couldn’t leave well enough alone. Based on his delusions of perpetual victimhood, out of the clear blue, he’s declared economic war on Canada.

On CANADA! And he did it based on Canada being a national security risk to the US! For no good reason, other than the voices in his head that told him it was a war he could win. So why not do it, then?
"Again, we’re talking about Canada. Our closest ally, friend and neighbor.

"On behalf of an embarrassed nation, people of Canada, I apologize for this idiotic and wholly unnecessary attack. Please leave the back channels open. We the People of progressive persuasion stand with you."
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This showed up on a friend's Facebook:

An open letter written by a Florida judge about the CANADA/USA relationships & history.
By Robert Meadows (Circuit Court Judge, Florida).
Here is one American’s take on the growing trade war with the US and Canada.
"Have you ever stopped to consider how lucky we Americans are to have the neighbors we have? Look around the globe at who some folks have been stuck sharing a border with over the past half century:
North Korea / South Korea
Greece / Turkey
Iran / Iraq
Israel / Palestine
India / Pakistan
China / Russia
"We’ve got Canada! Canada. About as inoffensive a neighbor as you could ever hope for. In spite of all our boasts of “American exceptionalism” and chants of “America first,” they just smile, do their thing and go about their business. They are on average more educated, have a higher standard of living, free health care, and almost no gun problems. They treat immigrants respectfully and already took in over 35,000 Syrians in the last two years.
"They’re with us in NATO, they fought alongside us in World War I, World War II, Korea, the Gulf War, the Bosnian War, Afghanistan, the Kosovo War and came to our defense after 9/11. There was that one time when Canada took a pass on one of our wars: Vietnam. Turned out to be a good call.
"They’ve been steady consumers of American imports, reliable exporters of metals and petroleum products (they are the biggest importer of U.S. products from 37 states), and partnered with NASA in our space missions.
"During 9/11 many aircraft were diverted to Newfoundland, an island province off Canada's east coast where Americans were housed in people's homes for two weeks and treated like royalty. In return for their hospitality, this administration slapped a 20% tariff on the products of Newfoundland's only paper mill, thereby threatening it's survival.
"And what do Canadians expect of us in return? To be respected for who and what they are: Canadians. That’s what I call a good neighbor.

"But the King of Chaos couldn’t leave well enough alone. Based on his delusions of perpetual victimhood, out of the clear blue, he’s declared economic war on Canada.

On CANADA! And he did it based on Canada being a national security risk to the US! For no good reason, other than the voices in his head that told him it was a war he could win. So why not do it, then?
"Again, we’re talking about Canada. Our closest ally, friend and neighbor.

"On behalf of an embarrassed nation, people of Canada, I apologize for this idiotic and wholly unnecessary attack. Please leave the back channels open. We the People of progressive persuasion stand with you."
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Is this the same one from 2018?

Open Letter to Robert Meadows​

An open letter attributed to Robert Meadows, a Florida judge, circulated on social media in 2018, praising Canada as a neighbor and criticizing the U.S. administration's approach to trade relations with Canada. However, the attribution to Robert Meadows is incorrect, as there is no Circuit Court judge by that name in Florida. The letter was actually written by a resident of Portland, Oregon, named Bruce Lindner, shortly after President Trump announced tariffs on Canadian imports.
 

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I have appreciated so much of what president Trump is doing. But one thing I most vehemently oppose is that Trump is negotiating an end to the war with Putin and not including Zelensky yet.

He is caving in to many of Putins demands as to be very sorrowful.

allowing Putin to keep many of the lands he stole in the 2 invasions of Ukraine.
Forcing Zelensky out of office saying he is a dictator( Pot meet kettle)
no taqlks of reparations to Ukraine for the massive damage done.
no war crime hearings for the intentional butchering of people by bombing civilian targets.
no talk of Russia paying anything for the crimes committed in their illegal invasion.
Talk of Trump demanding 50% of Ukraine's rare earth minerals to repay the AID we gave to help- them defeat the Russia Trump now seems to be sucking up to.
I have even been hearing on conservative TV and radio talk now of bad mouthing Zelensky and almost making him the villain of this war.

I voted for Trump and believe He can do good for America, but if he turns his back on Ukraine tro cow tow to russia, America has betrayed godly values in teh White House and we aree in serious trouble.
That is not what is actually going on.

It will seem far fetched and hard to believe until the real truth comes out (if it even does). But truth be known, Ukraine has been a stronghold for an ancient mafia-like, Satan-worshiping sect at the core of the new world order/one world government agenda. Ever wonder why pedifilia is more and more in the news lately? It's because it's one of their practices.

Russia fought against them a thousand years ago and ran them off , but some survived and went into hiding. Since then they have been operating covertly. It's a long story, but basically they have infiltrated governments, militaries, finantial institutions, medias, and other industries; and among others, engineered the first two world wars, with plans for a third to fully attain control of all the world.

Also in short, Putin, Trump, and the leaders of 209 nations have formed an alliance to fight and defeat their evil doings. The history of the resistance against them dates back to Lincoln, and more recently to JFK, who were both killed for their efforts. Ever wonder why all the secrecy regarding the JFK assassination...and why it's supposed to soon be released? Because, this is all a part of the same war being waged behind the scenes.

How do I know all this? As I have said before-- I know a guy.
 
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