One baptism. Not two.

[2 Peter 1:10-11]

There is one baptism in the churches of God.

"...One Lord, one faith, one baptism..."
— (Ephesians 4:5).

It is a baptism of water and of the Spirit. As it is written:

"...Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, AND renewing of the Holy Ghost..."
— (Titus 3:5).

It is by the washing of regeneration (baptism in the name of the Lord) that we were buried with Christ in baptism. And it is by the renewing of the Holy Ghost (receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost) that we were risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. As it is written:

"...In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses..."
— (Colossians 2:11-13).

This is how men and women become christians. They repent and are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; because the blood of Jesus Christ:

"...Is shed for many for the remission of sins."
— (Matthew 26:28).

And they receive the Holy Ghost which will cause them to speak with tongues, and prophesy. As it is written:

"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
— (Mark 16:17-18).

 

[mailmandan]

There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37 for the word drink(s).

 

[GRACE ambassador]

And they receive the Holy Ghost which will cause them to speak with tongues, and prophesy.

Correct, in connection with water, but only in the previous dispensation, and part of
God's Transition Period from law Over To Today's Grace:

Summary - Three Bible Baptisms:​

In God's Previous Context Of Prophecy/Covenants/Law for ISRAEL, Yesterday!:

►►► The Twelve Were Sent to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄

The TWO Main (of 12 ) baptismS =

A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!":
(Matthew_3:5-6; Mark_1:4; Luke_3:3; John_1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts_10:37)
(Matthew_28:19; Mark_16:16; Acts_2:38, 22:16; Ezekiel_36:25; Isaiah 52:15)
+
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah_44:3; Matthew_3:11; Mark_1:8, 16:17-18;
Luke_24:49; Acts_2:17-18, 38, 8:15-17, 11:16)

Prophecy/Covenants/Law for ISRAEL!

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

In God's Other Distinctive Context Of Mystery/GRACE! (Romans - Philemon) =

our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST, Today!:

►►► Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄

Today:

Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians_2:12; Galatians_3:27;
Romans_6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB)

Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE - Agrees with the OP, Correct?

Or, Equals two? = water problem with God's Math!
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Solving The Massive Confusion/Division of multiplied 'traditional' water practices,
This have also been Very Helpful:

Water That Divides!!
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My own personal study:

ONE Baptism

 

[DJT_47]

There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37 for the word drink(s).

Per the original Greek in the interlinear it's "in one Spirit" not "by one Spirit". The kjv and some other translations have it wrong.

 

[face2face]

There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37 for the word drink(s).

So you are saying water baptism is not done through believing in the one Spirit.

 

[Raccoon1010]

There is one baptism in the churches of God.

"...One Lord, one faith, one baptism..."
— (Ephesians 4:5).

It is a baptism of water and of the Spirit. As it is written:

"...Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, AND renewing of the Holy Ghost..."
— (Titus 3:5).

It is by the washing of regeneration (baptism in the name of the Lord) that we were buried with Christ in baptism. And it is by the renewing of the Holy Ghost (receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost) that we were risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. As it is written:

"...In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses..."
— (Colossians 2:11-13).

This is how men and women become christians. They repent and are baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; because the blood of Jesus Christ:

"...Is shed for many for the remission of sins."
— (Matthew 26:28).

And they receive the Holy Ghost which will cause them to speak with tongues, and prophesy. As it is written:

"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
— (Mark 16:17-18).

There have been two baptisms in the bible, one for John the Baptist, and the latter for Christ Jesus. The latter baptizes in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

But yes you are right, we are baptized in water when we join the church of God. And later we are confirmed and receive the Holy Ghost. Which then Jesus might baptize us with the Holy Ghost which is a heavenly measure of the spirit of Love and Peace and sometimes Joy which for me lasted for hours. It was wonderful.

 

[mailmandan]

Per the original Greek in the interlinear it's "in one Spirit" not "by one Spirit". The kjv and some other translations have it wrong.

What I shared in post #2 still stands.

 

[Taken]

Per the original Greek in the interlinear it's "in one Spirit" not "by one Spirit". The kjv and some other translations have it wrong.

I would disagree KJV has it “wrong”.

Gods “offering” to mankind has an “Order and Way”.
The “Order” reveals Who (of mankind, is given Gods Word, Hears, Considers, Agrees, Accepts, etc. First and Last).
The “Way” reveals How (of mankind, First and Last, can Receive, Keep, Reject Gods Word).

Gods “Offering” reveals By, Through, Of WHOM and WHAT, Gods “Offering” IS Accomplished.

Gods initial “Offering” unto ALL men;
IS By, Through, Of…Gods Grace

Gods “Offering WAY” unto ALL men;
IS; By Gods Grace
IS; Through Gods Messiah Son Christ Lord Jesus
IS; Of Gods Power

Any man WHO (via Gods WAY) heartfully, believes, accepts, agrees…RECEIVES…(via Gods ORDER) Gods Power “IN” them, “TO KEEP”, that mans Belief, Acceptance, Agreement intact Forever; By, Through, Of;
A whole list of Gods Works in Applicaation specific to that individual man.
For example;
Gods acceptance of that mans BODY given unto death by that man unto God FOR that mans Belief.
* God forgiving that body for having NOT believed.
* God washing that body ie. cleansing it from sin of Disbelief.
* God covering that body ie. Shining His Light upon and in that man, that that mans Forgiven Sin is covered and can not be seen or remembered.
* God sanctifying that body, ie setting it Apart from all unbelievers, ie anti-Gods, anti-Christs
* God justifying that body, ie that that body is worthy, accomplished according to God for God to Claim that body as a member of His People.
* God sealing that body, ie that that body is Redeemable Only by the Lord God Almighty Himself.

By, Through, Of; Gods Grace, Gods Offering, Gods Word, Gods Promise, Gods Faithfulness, Gods Work, Gods Power, IS Gods Pleasure and WILL fulfilled, accomplished, satisfactory, Done.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[mailmandan]

So you are saying water baptism is not done through believing in the one Spirit.

I'm saying that water baptism does not place us into the body of Christ or cause us to drink into one Spirit. Water baptism is the picture and Spirit baptism is the reality.

 

[Raccoon1010]

There have been two baptisms in the bible, one for John the Baptist, and the latter for Christ Jesus. The latter baptizes in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

But yes you are right, we are baptized in water when we join the church of God. And later we are confirmed and receive the Holy Ghost. Which then Jesus might baptize us with the Holy Ghost which is a heavenly measure of the spirit of Love and Peace and sometimes Joy which for me lasted for hours. It was wonderful.

Did I get that right, or was John's baptism good enough? I highly doubt people were re-baptized that John Baptized. There is one instance in the bible that people were re-baptized. But maybe the bible leaves out important information regarding this.

 

[David in NJ]

There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37 for the word drink(s).

Beat me to it......

 

[David in NJ]

So you are saying water baptism is not done through believing in the one Spirit.

Water baptism is outward and cannot SAVE.

Water baptism is the same principle as the OT law = it is outward and cannot SAVE the person on the 'Inward Man'.

Anyone can join a church and be water baptized. This in and of itself is just outward ritual.

When a person is SAVED, it is thru 'faith' in hearing the words of God which are Spirit and they are Life.

Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

 

[DJT_47]

What I shared in post #2 still stands.

Hoop t doo

 

[DJT_47]

I would disagree KJV has it “wrong”.

Gods “offering” to mankind has an “Order and Way”.
The “Order” reveals Who (of mankind, is given Gods Word, Hears, Considers, Agrees, Accepts, etc. First and Last).
The “Way” reveals How (of mankind, First and Last, can Receive, Keep, Reject Gods Word).

Gods “Offering” reveals By, Through, Of WHOM and WHAT, Gods “Offering” IS Accomplished.

Gods initial “Offering” unto ALL men;
IS By, Through, Of…Gods Grace

Gods “Offering WAY” unto ALL men;
IS; By Gods Grace
IS; Through Gods Messiah Son Christ Lord Jesus
IS; Of Gods Power

Any man WHO (via Gods WAY) heartfully, believes, accepts, agrees…RECEIVES…(via Gods ORDER) Gods Power “IN” them, “TO KEEP”, that mans Belief, Acceptance, Agreement intact Forever; By, Through, Of;
A whole list of Gods Works in Applicaation specific to that individual man.
For example;
Gods acceptance of that mans BODY given unto death by that man unto God FOR that mans Belief.
* God forgiving that body for having NOT believed.
* God washing that body ie. cleansing it from sin of Disbelief.
* God covering that body ie. Shining His Light upon and in that man, that that mans Forgiven Sin is covered and can not be seen or remembered.
* God sanctifying that body, ie setting it Apart from all unbelievers, ie anti-Gods, anti-Christs
* God justifying that body, ie that that body is worthy, accomplished according to God for God to Claim that body as a member of His People.
* God sealing that body, ie that that body is Redeemable Only by the Lord God Almighty Himself.

By, Through, Of; Gods Grace, Gods Offering, Gods Word, Gods Promise, Gods Faithfulness, Gods Work, Gods Power, IS Gods Pleasure and WILL fulfilled, accomplished, satisfactory, Done.

Glory to God,
Taken

All you have to do is read the original Greek. The word is in not by. It ain't that complicated.

 

[gpresdo]

There is only one baptism that places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37 for the word drink(s).

God's word is the same......even on a different forum.........you are wrong...again;

Water Baptism is Required

Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins......
Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 10;47-48...
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.

Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”

John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).

 

[face2face]

Water baptism is outward and cannot SAVE.

Quote please

Water baptism is the same principle as the OT law = it is outward and cannot SAVE the person on the 'Inward Man'.

Quote please

Anyone can join a church and be water baptized. This in and of itself is just outward ritual.

Evidence please

When a person is SAVED, it is thru 'faith' in hearing the words of God which are Spirit and they are Life.

"Being saved" = big difference

and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.1 Cor 15:2

Hold fast relates to being saved!

Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

True - The Spirit Word saves...that's a no brainier, Christ has the Words of Eternal Life!
F2F

 

[face2face]

I'm saying that water baptism does not place us into the body of Christ or cause us to drink into one Spirit. Water baptism is the picture and Spirit baptism is the reality.

Your fascination with the Spirit is not what the Word of God makes of it.

If you understood what this means, you would promote the one true Baptism.

“You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink, or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”

it is not our baptism that saves; it is Christ's!

Our salvation comes from being identified "in" Christ's sacrificial baptism (Mk 10:38), and a life in conformity with that action. Our body of sin motivated flesh must be entombed ("sealed") with Christ's, so that our life is "hidden with him" there (Col 3:3). By this ritual we are buried together with him.

The Spirit Word is the saving activity in the life of a believer and if the above is not "fully understood" in truth, then your Baptism is not his baptism and his Words are not your Words.

The Apostle Paul knew the significance when he said “. . . one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all” (Eph 4:5-6)

F2F

 

[David in NJ]

Your fascination with the Spirit is not what the Word of God makes of it.

If you understood what this means, you would promote the one true Baptism.

“You don’t know what you are asking,” Jesus said. “Can you drink the cup I drink, or be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with?”

it is not our baptism that saves; it is Christ's!

Our salvation comes from being identified "in" Christ's sacrificial baptism (Mk 10:38), and a life in conformity with that action. Our body of sin motivated flesh must be entombed ("sealed") with Christ's, so that our life is "hidden with him" there (Col 3:3). By this ritual we are buried together with him.

The Spirit Word is the saving activity in the life of a believer and if the above is not "fully understood" in truth, then your Baptism is not his baptism and his Words are not your Words.

The Apostle Paul knew the significance when he said “. . . one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all” (Eph 4:5-6)

F2F

Apostle Paul was Baptized in the Holy Spirit, to which he refers as "one baptism" = the One that Counts

 

[amigo de christo]

Apostle Paul was Baptized in the Holy Spirit, to which he refers as "one baptism" = the One that Counts

March onwards in the GLORIOUS LORD my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

Apostle Paul was Baptized in the Holy Spirit, to which he refers as "one baptism" = the One that Counts

Many come to another jesus , and though they be water baptized they were baptized into MENS DOCTRINES
and mens version of jesus .
As for me , The early church did perform the water baptism so i say we ought too as well .
BUT ITS FAITH IN JESUS that SAVED US . FAITH IN HE .
I seen folks teaching some odd things .
Wanna hear something .
There was a young man who once said
many who get baptized in the water go down a dry sinner and come up a wet sinner .
The man knew more than most pastors . And that simple man had DOWNS SYNDROME .
OH YEAH GOD can reveal truth to anyone .
Even that young man knew many folks were not LIVING FOR CHRIST
they were just going through a ritual , but their heart , their heart was not changed by GOD .
Even that young man knew that . And he had downs syndrom.
GOD can and does speak truth to all who are HIS . no matter what.