Once Saved Always Saved

[Taken]

Well that's another lie.

That question was a lie? LOL
Grammar not your best subject eh?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

It's hard to believe you would say this of me, however, I've come to find people will say about anything of me when they don't like what I write.

It’s not personal. Don’t take it that way.

Do you encourage others of offer animal sacrifices at the temple

No. Why would I?

 

[justbyfaith]

How is someone spiritual alive and not already in the kingdom?

Colossians 1:12-13 KJV
12) Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


Much love!

Again, they are in the kingdom as a living plant if they are on shallow soil; but they will not continue to be a living plant for ever and thus will not be in the kingdom for ever.

 

[Taken]

Yeah, "whinning about ATTACKS" by you OSAS self appointed judges of NON OSASers being unsaved.

None of which proves OSAS.

What you really mean, if we don't swallow your OSAS doctrines we don't receive salvation.

Ok, tell me plain, how many times do you want me to profess that I'm a Christian? I'm not an OSAS judge, just a Bible believing Christian. How many more times do you want me to say it to make you happy?

I don't care if you are Christian.
Jesus never mentioned Christian.

Obviously you can not understand, the name Christian, is a mere implication....
Converted, is an EXPRESS assured ONCE and Forever Gift.

 

[Taken]

It's your word against God's Word.

Nope, making up false accusations, does not prove anything except you make up false accusations.

Written to Christians:

And where does it say, it say it was written to Christians?

LOL

Romans 11:22 (NKJV)

22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

 

[kcnalp]

So be in fear, every time you sin, (as you claim you do)...and should you die at that same moment.....oops, you can be cut off from Salvation...
Okie dokie..
no expectation to see you in the Lords Kingdom.

Don't you ask God to forgive your sins? Or are you a sinless OSASer?

Luke 11:2-4 (NKJV)
2 So He said to them, "When you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.3 Give us day by day our daily bread.4 And forgive us our sins, For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.

 

[kcnalp]

That question was a lie? LOL
Grammar not your best subject eh?

Questions can contain lies. OSASers practice this because they think they can never lose their salvation.

 

[amigo de christo]

Matthew 4:4
...Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture... is profitable for doctrine

You should really consider what spirit inspires men to believe that only portions of scripture are profitable for doctrine.

Since we are on the subject of sound doctrine . Lets go to and behold the answer to your question .
WHO would have us to omit something GOD has said .
its not hard to answer that one .
But first lets look at todays men . Many say , OH that dont no longer apply to us today
or they say oh that was for another time or another group .
Or some even say things like , OH come now that was old test , God is love , men can be with men NOW we are under grace
or women can be with women now we are under grace .
BUT WHO is the one behind this all .
WHO would say , OH has GOD really said , OH has the bible really said ye cant do this or that , NO , NO ye shall not surely die
GOD is love .
WELL for that answer let go and behold the TREE .
What DID the serpent say , HAS GOD REALLY said that ye may not eat of ALL the trees of the garden .
And the woman said , we may eat of all the trees but one , for in the day we eat thereof GOd has said we shall die .
NO NO , says the serpent , you can almost hear him say DADDY GOD IS LOVE , GOD just knows when ye eat thereof ye shall become as GODS
YE WONT DIE .
SO the answer to your question , IS THE SERPENT . HE IS THE ONE DECEIVING THESE PEOPLE
and saying things like YE ARE UNDER GRACE NOW , ITS OKAY , OR THAT Was back in their time , ITS OKAY GOD KNOWS the TIMES CHANGE .
ITS THE SERPENT LYING TO THEM . And many buy it cause they love the lusts of the flesh and of the eyes
and the cares and pleasures in this life . AND THAT IS HOW the serpent gets them . ALLURES through the flesh .

 

[kcnalp]

I don't care if you are Christian.
Jesus never mentioned Christian.

You're not a Christian???

 

[kcnalp]

Nope, making up false accusations, does not prove anything except you make up false accusations.



And where does it say, it say it was written to Christians?

LOL

You're not Christian??? This is a Christian Forum. It clearly says "Christians only".

 

[amigo de christo]

Key thing to remember . WHO WE OBEY is TRULY WHOSE WE ARE .

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@amigo de christo

AMEN!

I loved your post!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No I am not. I am judging the false doctrine of OSAS. Not the OSAS preachers.

Well once saved always saved (eternal security) is the only biblical doctrine concerning salvation.

I fear you just do not understand the enormity of Jesus work on the Cross, How helpless man is and how huge the change that takes place.

Sin does not cause one to lose salvation. If it did, then you are publicly declaring that Jesus did not die for all sins, just some or most!

 

[kcnalp]

Well once saved always saved (eternal security) is the only biblical doctrine concerning salvation.

What? Are you a Christian?

I fear you just do not understand the enormity of Jesus work on the Cross, How helpless man is and how huge the change that takes place.

And OSASers understand it perfectly?

Sin does not cause one to lose salvation.

I never said it does.

If it did, then you are publicly declaring that Jesus did not die for all sins, just some or most!

Are you Baptist?

 

[amigo de christo]

Well once saved always saved (eternal security) is the only biblical doctrine concerning salvation.

I fear you just do not understand the enormity of Jesus work on the Cross, How helpless man is and how huge the change that takes place.

Sin does not cause one to lose salvation. If it did, then you are publicly declaring that Jesus did not die for all sins, just some or most!

So when paul said ye are made partakers of CHRIST IF ye hold your confidence firm to the END
he was not trusting in Christ . Or how about WHEN JESUS HIMSELF said if ye continue not in me , ye are cast out .
Or how about all those warnings to the seven churches . Was JESUS telling them NOT TO TRUST IN HIS FINISHED WORKS
when he made clear to say YE MUST ENDURE TO THE END . I have often told my testimony .
AND i do not trust one ounce in me , nor do i see any goodness in me , CEPT the SPIRIT .
No righteousness in me , CEPT THE LORD . YET i know a firm solid truth . IF we do not continue in HIM
we will be cast out . Let us learn The true JESUS and ALL that doctrine well .
And be looking diligently everyone , lest anyone FAILS of the grace of GOD .
All those warnings about how folks had to endure faithful to the end they did give . SO how come we dont DO the same today .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What? Are you a Christian?

Very much so, Yes!

And OSASers understand it perfectly?

No! Many are still learning, just like folks who believe you can lose the salvation God has kept reserved you in heaven, do not understand soteriology at all!

Are you Baptist?

Well I am Christian first. I was part of a non-denominational church for 21 years. The church fell by schism and dissension and I joined a local independent Baptist church. It followed Scripture more closely than any other church I investigated. the church I attend is not part of any Baptist denomination.

 

[kcnalp]

Very much so, Yes!



No! Many are still learning, just like folks who believe you can lose the salvation God has kept reserved you in heaven, do not understand soteriology at all!


Well I am Christian first. I was part of a non-denominational church for 21 years. The church fell by schism and dissension and I joined a local independent Baptist church. It followed Scripture more closely than any other church I investigated. the church I attend is not part of any Baptist denomination.

I asked if you are Baptist because I don't know of any other OSASers.


Written to Christians:
Romans 11:22 (NKJV)
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

So when paul said ye are made partakers of CHRIST IF ye hold your confidence firm to the END
he was not trusting in Christ . Or how about WHEN JESUS HIMSELF said if ye continue not in me , ye are cast out .
Or how about all those warnings to the seven churches . Was JESUS telling them NOT TO TRUST IN HIS FINISHED WORKS
when he made clear to say YE MUST ENDURE TO THE END . I have often told my testimony .
AND i do not trust one ounce in me , nor do i see any goodness in me , CEPT the SPIRIT .
No righteousness in me , CEPT THE LORD . YET i know a firm solid truth . IF we do not continue in HIM
we will be cast out . Let us learn The true JESUS and ALL that doctrine well .
And be looking diligently everyone , lest anyone FAILS of the grace of GOD .
All those warnings about how folks had to endure faithful to the end they did give . SO how come we dont DO the same today .

Well there is nothing good in the human nature that is worth saving! That is why God makes a new creation that is being conformed to the image of Christ. And faithful is He who has begun that good work to continue it to the day we are finally revealed.

Jesus never said continue in Him. Jesus said we abide in Him and we do! He said He would NEVER keave us or forsake us. NEVER means NEVER! So if we turn to forsake Him- He turns with us. We simply cannot shake off Jesus not matter how arrogant we may be or how hard we may try!

 

[marks]

It’s not personal. Don’t take it that way.



No. Why would I?

God said to.

The point is, be smart about this.

To just say, we have to do everything in the Bible falls short of really saying what God requires of you, and me.

I'm not Noah, and Noah wasn't me, and there are differences in what God told Noah, and what God tells me.

There are differences in what God told the ancient Israelites, and what He tells me.

We need to be clear on these differences, and what they mean to our lives.

Much love!

 

[Taken]

Don't you ask God to forgive your sins?

Luke 11:2-4 (NKJV)
2 So He said to them, "When you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.3 Give us day by day our daily bread.4 And forgive us our sins, For we also forgive everyone who is indebted to us.

Already prayed that prayer.
Already forgiven my sins.

This is suitable for a Converted man, born of God, who can not sin.

Matt 6:
[9] After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
[10] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
[11] Give us this day our daily bread.
[12] And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
[13] And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Or are you a sinless OSASer?

Already addressed that umpteen times.