I would like to discuss why OSASers judge NON OSASers as unsaved.
Once Saved Always Saved
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I don't know. How many times do you need to get saved? OSASers are dedicated to judging others. Maybe they need to get "saved" MANY times?
This passage, make your calling and election sure, it doesn't mean make them certain, to become positive that you are called and elected, it means to make your calling and election immovable, stable. Nailed down so it doesn't move.
James speaks in terms of a double minded man, unstable. Paul writes of being blown about by every wind of doctrine.
Much love!
James speaks in terms of a double minded man, unstable. Paul writes of being blown about by every wind of doctrine.
Much love!
Can you admit that Jesus believing NON OSASers are saved without believing OSAS? I doubt that you can.
Wrangler
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Eternally Grateful
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Me cry? I am not complaining about you judging me, why are you being dishonest?
i I can’t stop judging NOSAS, it’s unbiblical and denies the power of God to not only change people. But to keep them in his hands, and worse of all. Makes God a liar,
Quote where I judged you. I judge OSAS! Quote where I'm being dishonest. Do you repent for lying?
Eternally Grateful
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Yep. Workout YOUR,
you already possess the salvation your working out
what do we fear? Losing salvation? Is this what the text says?
for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.
14 Do all things without complaining and disputing, 15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world
Ahh,so we can be lights in the world, drawing people to Christ, and blameless so our reputation is not stained and we are seen as hypocrites, whch sadly far to many Christians are
nothing here about losing salvation. Nice try though
"All who call upon the Name of the Lord shall be saved". I don't see much a doctrinal requirement there. I don't see very much there at all!
You have to believe in the One upon Whom you call. I imagine your call must be authentic.
If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved. So here in the NT we've given a bit more meat, Jesus is Lord, and God raised him from the dead.
If you really are prepared to serve Jesus as your Master, and you really believe He is the risen Lord, God says you are His.
Nothing in either of those passages about OSAS, tongues, Trinity, any of those things. I think that having correct understandings on these other doctrines will advance us in our faith. Incorrect understandings about God may take away our peace, may affect our fruitfulness, but at the end of the day, what I think is this.
That God intends for us to be His, and He makes it . . . well, in His words,
Romans 10:5-9 KJV
5) For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
6) But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
7) Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
8) But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Don't ask, who will go fetch Christ from heaven, Don't ask, who will go bring Christ back from the dead ones, no, the word of faith is right next to you, you don't have to go anywhere, it's right there in your very mouth, ready to be spoken, if you confess with your mouth, believe in your heart.
Much love!
that is not what i asked is it? answer this are we kept by the power of God. what did peter say about our inheritance. read 1 peter chapter 1 start at verse 3 .osasaers is that anything like free willers
Eternally Grateful
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If you think I am lying report me,
When you judge osas you judge me
I know yu do not repent for lying yu do not even admit your lying
like I said,
I can’t stop going against NOSAS, it’s unbiblical and denies the power of God to not only change people. But to keep them in his hands, and worse of all. Makes God a liar,
So what if you don't "work it out"?
YAY!!! I can't lose. What if YOU don't work it out?
Taken
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Scripture funny? Not particularly.
Things YOU say funny/odd. Yes, Regularly.
Precisely OSAS, is an acronym.
OSAS stand for; Once Saved Always Saved.
Yes, a man coined the Phrase.
The Teaching that Once a man has Received Salvation, the man can Never become unSaved IS Scriptural.
Correct, whether or not you know if OSAS is true...If you are Converted, "your salvation is Secure."
However, you are unsure IF OSAS its true, and Yet, you Speak Against OSAS, which makes your speech MAKE Gods Word seem worthless....as if His power IN a man, is NOT CAPABLE to KEEP the mans SALVATION For Ever.
Instead of reading all the Warnings About Losing Salvation...try reading all the things the Lord DECLARES IS TRUE regarding a CONVERTED MAN...
It is what I talk about....Applying Scripture to you ...that actually Applies to you.
Katergadzomai your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who energeo within you.
Are you familiar with the difference between those words?
Much love!
Waiting on him
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You non OSAS guys seem to serve a God that is powerless and very fickle.
Ferris Bueller
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This is exactly what Paul was talking about in Romans 11:20-22. He's talking to those who 'stand by faith', which you say you are, so it's directed to you. I don't see the humility and fear that Paul says you who stand by faith are to have. I see in you the very thing he says not to be—arrogant. You're talking down to those you consider lost. You reek with arrogance and pride over those you consider lost. The very thing Paul said not to be in regard to the lost Israelites. Where's your humility? Where's your fear? Where's your diligence? Where's your vigilance? The description of your life doesn't match at all with what the Bible says we are to be.
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