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I wrote that eons ago. It has no bearing on anything going on currently in my life.
I guess I have been through a lot since then.
The testimony that I bore in that post was true.
Hmmm No it's not true, Went from left field to eons ago to its true... I have been through a lot trying to reason with you....
Your testimony was not true it was crazy delusion...really
Your excuse was what I said was left field, then you said it was eons ago, then when i said 1 month you said it was true, to make it any clearer your all over the place
I have been through a lot trying to reason with you....= I think your too far gone
Taken
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Your words are attributed to you.
Thanks for making yourself clear by posting a Verse that Applies to you.
You should pay attention to the caveat
"IF" given in Scripture.
You should pay attention to the knowledge
"He IS FAITHFUL and JUST".
"FORGIVE cleanse from ALL unrightousness."
Don't be discouraged...
Maybe you can seek the help of a teacher that can teach you the meaning of "IF" and "ALL", and continue reading Scripture that teaches the "KNOWLEDGE"....
2 Tim 3:
[16] All scripture is given... for instruction in righteousness:
Keep trying...
I've already been told by the system that I'm mentally ill....I don't need you to repeat the whole shmeil.
If I'm crazy, I'm crazy...nothing I can do about it, nothing you can do about it. Why persecute me over some of my more far-fetched ideologies? They say that often, truth is stranger than fiction...
If I'm beside myself, it is to God; but when I am of sound mind, it is for you...2 Corinthians 5:13.
The spiritual man is mad because of thine iniquity and the great hatred (against Christians and Jews)...Hosea 9:7.
Because it doesn't have to be that way, It's not to persecute you its to show that you don't always see things properly, the thing is no one does... but when these things interfere with scriptural things that is important, But until you oppose yourself I don't think you can come repentance to the acknowledging of the truth, If you only knew who you really where you wouldn't worry about yourself, Hey one lepper was thankful
John 7:18
Taken
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One who "believes in Christ" is eternally secure?
Has Scripture become obsolete?
Just belief?
"Mans" Belief from the mind or the heart not relevant?
"Mans" Confession of ones belief, not relevant?
"Mans" Repentence for "NOT having HAD Belief," not relevant?
Acts 17:
[30] ...God ...now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Matt 4:
[17] From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent.
Luke 13:
[3] I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Rom 10:
[10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Have stressed before, to deaf ears...
ORDER and WAY of the Lord God IS Paramount.
1 Cor 14
[40] Let all things be done decently and in order.
Matt 22:
...Master, we know that thou art true, and teachest the way of God in truth ...
John 14:
[6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life...
Many men have "believed"...without repentence, without confession...and HAVE FALLEN AWAY...Because they LACKED having received the POWER of God to KEEP them...
"Which, RECEIVING Gods Internal POWER is exactly what a Converted man DOES ONCE and FOREVER"
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Taken
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A bit of advice.
Men OF this world, decide what Ideas "they want in your thoughts" and what Words "they want in your mouth"...
Which means...men OF this world "make up their own STANDARDS" and "DECIDE what IS ACCEPTABLE TO THEM".
Men OF this world have CONVINCED YOU...
To Accept "their standards".
To Accept "keeping YOUR THOUGHTS" what "they say".
To Accept "Speaking out of your mouth" what "they say".
Point is..."THEY HAVE DECIDED "your truth FOR YOU and YOU accepted it to BECOME "your truth".
Jesus taught a LESSON.
Consider it.
John 17:
[14] I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Understand it.
Jesus came "IN' the world, to teach men "His Word", and to PUT, "His Word IN your Heart, IN your thoughts, IN your mouth"...
* And to teach men TO:
NOT BE "OF" the world.
* Men "OF" the world will teach you "their word"... TO PUT 'their word", in your Minds thoughts, and IN your mouth.
The Lords WORD in your heart, your thoughts, your mouth....HEALS YOU.
WORDS of Men OF the WORLD in your thoughts your mouth...
DESTROYS YOU.
Jesus' Lesson IS:
To PUT HIS words in your heart, thoughts, mouth....and spit out what men OF the World are convincing you to think, believe and say.
Matt 15:
[11] Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
Trust the Lords blessing He has for you,
Taken
You're not crazy, you just talk to much!
All of us have crazy thoughts running around in our heads from time to time.
Just don't go telling it to folks you really don't know.
CadyandZoe
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I have a question for you. (unrelated to your advice to "justbyfaith") Will OSAS ever be true? Will there ever be a time in the future when people will be unable to loose their salvation?
Yes, when our redemption is completed at the resurrection.
Paul told us that we only have a down payment on our redemption which is the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14
Ferris Bueller
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I'm pretty sure we're on the same page here. The believing that we're talking about here is the believing that Jesus talked about that saves.
Ferris Bueller
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I don't recall saying John 6 was talking about just mere belief. I'm confident Jesus was talking about genuine saving faith and belief when he said this....
Truly, truly, I tell you, he who believes has eternal life. John 6:47
CadyandZoe
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originally, "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser and forfeited if the purchase was not completed, was probably a Phoenician word, introduced into Greece. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the Divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness, 2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; in Ephesians 1:14; 4:30 particularly of their eternal inheritance.
Earnest - Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words -
2 Corinthians 1:21 - Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
2 Corinthians 5:5 - Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Ephesians 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed unto/for the day of redemption.
Praise God! :)
originally, "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser and forfeited if the purchase was not completed, was probably a Phoenician word, introduced into Greece. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the Divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness, 2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; in Ephesians 1:14; 4:30 particularly of their eternal inheritance.
Earnest - Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words -
2 Corinthians 1:21 - Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22 set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
2 Corinthians 5:5 - Now it is God who has made us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Ephesians 4:30 - And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed unto/for the day of redemption.
Praise God! :)
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