No Exceptions: Jesus Was Talking to You

[quietthinker]

No Exceptions: Jesus Was Talking to You​

or You!

 

[Behold]

….that is what Jesus accepted.…”obeisance”…not “worship”…..it’s the same word In Greek.

Actually Jesus did allow worship of Himself.

You can read the account of the Harlot who crawled across the Floor on her hands and knees, in public, .. to wash Jesus's feet with her tears, and dry them with her hair.
That's incredible worship.......in public.

You can read the account of Thomas who when he was kneeling before Jesus said : "My Lord and my God".

Another time Jesus equated Himself to God by saying...>"you believe in God....believe also in Me".

There are others, but those 3 are very clear.

 

[ShineTheLight]

I meant to say James 4:4. Not James 4:8. The verse that says friendship with the world makes you an enemy of God.

I also have this to add to what the OP said about hunger in the word, and those who just say profess the faith but are questionable.

1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Actually Jesus did allow worship of Himself.

Never would he allow such a thing because it would be blasphemy to worship a man in place of God. (Exodus 20:3) Jesus was a man. When honor or reverence is offered to a human it is obeisance, not worship…it’s the same word in Greek.
It is what the magi offered to the infant son of God….not worship.
It is obeisance offered by the angels who knew exactly who Jesus was…..the angels said to “worship God”, not Jesus.

You can read the account of the Harlot who crawled across the Floor on her hands and knees, in public, .. to wash Jesus's feet with her tears, and dry them with her hair.
That's incredible worship.......in public.

There are apparently two accounts of women approaching Jesus with a view to honoring him for the role he was to play as redeemer and the example that he left.

The woman who was at the house of Simon the Leper was anointing Jesus for his burial. She is not named but is simply said to be a sinner. (Luke 7:36-50) Matthew, Mark and Luke mention this woman, but Jesus says of her when the disciples complained about the cost of the oil she poured on him…..

”Why do you try to make trouble for her? She did a fine deed toward me. 7 For you always have the poor with you, and you can do them good whenever you want to, but you will not always have me.8 She did what she could; she poured perfumed oil on my body beforehand, in view of the burial. 9 Truly I say to you, wherever the good news is preached in all the world, what this woman did will also be told in memory of her.” (Mark 14:3-9)

The second woman was named as Mary, the sister of Lazarus….who was not a sinful woman.
And she had the same idea that this oil was an anointing for his burial. (John 12:1-8)

There is a difference difference between anointing the Christ for his death and burial…..and worship.
Neither of these women were worshipping Jesus.

You can read the account of Thomas who when he was kneeling before Jesus said : "My Lord and my God".

Thomas did not have a different belief to all the other apostles…..who all understood who their God was…..
1 Cor 8:5-6…..
”For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6  there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.”

Thomas’ surprised reply was not the basis for a doctrine that the other apostles did not uphold.

Another time Jesus equated Himself to God by saying...>"you believe in God....believe also in Me".

There are others, but those 3 are very clear.

Sorry…not “very clear” at all in context…..try again. That last one is just pathetic. Jesus did not equate himself with God at all….If one believes in God, then Jesus’ statement there is redundant….if you believe they are one and the same God, then why the need to also believe in Jesus? All that he taught was from his Father, who was also his God. (John 7:15-16; John 20:17; Rev 3:14)

If you are a teacher, then I feel for your students….you claim to know the Bible, but it is apparent that your knowledge is rather superficial and stunted.

 

[PS95]

Actually Jesus did allow worship of Himself.

You can read the account of the Harlot who crawled across the Floor on her hands and knees, in public, .. to wash Jesus's feet with her tears, and dry them with her hair.
That's incredible worship.......in public.

You can read the account of Thomas who when he was kneeling before Jesus said : "My Lord and my God".

Another time Jesus equated Himself to God by saying...>"you believe in God....believe also in Me".

There are others, but those 3 are very clear.

He certainly did. Yes, many others!
Luke 24: 52 and they after worshipping Him returned to Jerusalem with great joy and were continually in the Temple praising God.

And it is the same word used for worship of the Father. JWs however, while they claim to translate words the same- do not tell the truth. It states this as a fact in their own interlinear . BUT in every single instance where this same word is used, they translate it as obeisance when it pertains to the Son -and worship if it pertains to the Father.

proskuneó: To worship, to bow down, to prostrate oneself
Original Word: προσκυνέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: proskuneó
Pronunciation: pros-koo-NEH-oh
Phonetic Spelling: (pros-koo-neh'-o)
Definition: To worship, to bow down, to prostrate oneself
Meaning: I go down on my knees to, do obeisance to, worship.

Word Origin: From πρός (pros, meaning "towards") and κυνέω (kuneó, meaning "to kiss")

Corresponding Greek / Hebrew Entries: - H7812 - שָׁחָה (shachah): To bow down, to prostrate oneself, often used in the context of worship.

Usage: The Greek verb "proskuneó" primarily means to worship or to show reverence, often through physical gestures such as bowing down or prostrating oneself. In the New Testament, it is used to describe acts of worship directed towards God, Jesus Christ, or, in some contexts, false gods or idols. The term conveys a deep sense of reverence, adoration, and submission to a higher authority.

Cultural and Historical Background: In ancient Greek culture, "proskuneó" was a common practice of showing respect and homage, especially towards deities and rulers. This act often involved bowing or prostrating oneself as a sign of submission and reverence. In the Jewish context, worship was directed exclusively towards Yahweh, and the physical act of bowing was a significant expression of devotion and humility. The early Christians adopted this term to express their worship of Jesus Christ, emphasizing His divine nature and authority.

 

[PS95]

Actually Jesus did allow worship of Himself.

You can read the account of the Harlot who crawled across the Floor on her hands and knees, in public, .. to wash Jesus's feet with her tears, and dry them with her hair.
That's incredible worship.......in public.

You can read the account of Thomas who when he was kneeling before Jesus said : "My Lord and my God".

Another time Jesus equated Himself to God by saying...>"you believe in God....believe also in Me".

There are others, but those 3 are very clear.

Here is a link to the full list of this word, proskuneo in the NT.
Jane put me on her shun list because I was raised as a Jw. So this is a gift from me to you for Jane who will fight it til she dies, unfortunately, she can never ever be wrong. JWs are very self-righteous people. We can always hold out hope..
She will likely twist the rest of the scriptures to try to make her claim. And utterly ignore that JWs lie in their own interlinear where they state the claim to always translate words the same.

προσκυνέω

to do reverence, or homage by kissing the hand; in NT to do reverence or homage by prostration, Mt. 2:2, 8, 11; 20:20; Lk. 4:7; 24:52; to pay divine homage, worship, adore, Mt. 4:10; Jn. 4:20, 21; Heb. 1:6; to bow one's self in adoration, Heb. 11:21

www.billmounce.com

 

[Behold]

Never would he allow such a thing because it would be blasphemy to worship a man in place of God.

Yet it happened.

You can read the account of the Harlot who crawled across the Floor on her hands and knees, in public, .. to wash Jesus's feet with her tears, and dry them with her hair.
That's incredible worship.......in public.

You can read the account of Thomas who when he was kneeling before Jesus said : "My Lord and my God".

Another time Jesus equated Himself to God by saying...>"you believe in God....believe also in Me"..

And i'll show you another one.. and notice Who is calling Himself : LORD

Jesus, is referring to Himself as ........"LORD"... and that is God's Title also, in the Old Testament.

So, do you worship "Jesus THE Lord"?.......... Does your Cult @Aunty Jane ?

The Apostles did, because JESUS is THE Lord., and notice in the verse, He was not crucified yet and risen yet.

New International Version
“You call me ‘Teacher’ and LORD‘’ and rightly so, for that is what I am.

New Living Translation
You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and you are right, because that’s what I am.

English Standard Version
You call me Teacher and LORD and you are right, for so I am.

Berean Standard Bible
You call Me Teacher and Lord, and rightly so, because I am.

Berean Literal Bible
You call Me Teacher and LORD, and you say rightly, for so I am.

King James Bible
Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.

New King James Version
You call Me Teacher and LORD, and you say well, for so I am.

 

[Behold]

Jane put me on her shun list because I was raised as a Jw. So this is a gift from me to you for Jane who will fight it til she dies, unfortunately, she can never ever be wrong. JWs are very self-righteous people.

Yes, ive noted this.

This one in particular, likes to write a lot of nothing.......Long posts, filled from top to bottom with nothing in them but JW's mind closed nonsense.