The Unpardonable sin, is only one sin.
Its the sin of dying, never having trusted in Christ.
3rd time ive told you.
Try to pay attention, Adam.
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The Unpardonable sin, is only one sin.
Its the sin of dying, never having trusted in Christ.
3rd time ive told you.
Try to pay attention, Adam.
Guess again, as your theology is nothing but a wild guess, because you are the product of a cult that caused this to happen to you.
Notice this verse.
Paul wrote it.
Paul is the Apostle who gave the "church" the "Gospel of the Grace of God".. who wrote : the "Preaching of the Cross to them that perish is foolishness, but to us who are SAVED = IT is the God.
NOTICE that Paul told you that if you do not believe you are PERISHING.
= Going to HELL.
= John 3:36.
Here is the verse on Abraham...
"Abraham, our father of faith, believed God, and his FAITH released God’s righteousness to him"" "His Faith was counted as Righteousness"...
See, to believe in God in the OT, to have this FAITH, is what we do now, when we BELIEVE in Jesus.
This is why Jesus told YOU.....>"you believe in God, believe ALSO in ME"..
And if you dont, you die a Christ Rejector, having committed the "unpardonable SIN" of CHRIST REJECTION< and "there remainth NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR YOUR SIN"....
Why?
Because you rejected it, and died without forgiveness of your sin. = CHRIST REJECTOR.= DAMNED.
THAT is the one sin that is "unpardonable".
Do you understand yet, Adam?
What is being said in this verse does not confirm what you are claiming.
John 3
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
To believe in someone is to believe their teachings. So do you believe in what the Son is saying or not? I will post quotes from His own mouth.
Or in other words, as long as one has faith in God, that is considered righteous.
Matthew 12:32
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Do you believe in the Son of Man who said this?
Yes, I have understood what you were saying from the start, it is a very common idea in Christian circles and it is also misinformed.
Also from Jesus' own mouth:
Luke 18
18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.
20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.
Jesus did not tell the man to worship Him. He gave a different doctrine from what you are preaching. Do you believe in the Son of Man who said this?
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Luke 6
37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; 38 give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”
Jesus says right here - do not condemn and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven.
What Jesus doesn't say: "act however you want but call me Lord and that is enough"
Here is what Jesus says about that:
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
The one who does the will of the Father, is the one who will enter the kingdom of heaven. Jesus makes it clear multiple times, people who don't believe in the Son of Man (perhaps because of some misunderstanding or cultural barrier), but still believe in God, will be treated fairly at their judgement.
37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; 38 give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”
Jesus says right here - do not condemn and you will not be condemned. Forgive and you will be forgiven.
What Jesus doesn't say: "act however you want but call me Lord and that is enough"
Here is what Jesus says about that:
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
The one who does the will of the Father, is the one who will enter the kingdom of heaven. Jesus makes it clear multiple times, people who don't believe in the Son of Man (perhaps because of some misunderstanding or cultural barrier), but still believe in God, will be treated fairly at their judgement.
Robert Gwin
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Heck I don't know either Byrd, but we all have the same hope for sure. Like most people I think I will be saved, but only time will give the answer to that.
Webers_Home
Well-Known Member
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Pushing God too far can result in irreversible consequences; for example:
• 2Thess 2:10-12 . . They received not the love of the truth, that they might
be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they
should believe a lie: that they all might be condemned who believed not the
truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Pushing God too far can result in irreversible consequences; for example:
• 2Thess 2:10-12 . . They received not the love of the truth, that they might
be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they
should believe a lie: that they all might be condemned who believed not the
truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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FactsPlease
Member
Jesus died on earth and was raised from the dead on Earth.
He came To EARTH to accomplish your Salvation, on the Earth.
There is no Cross waiting for you in Eternity, and there is no Cross found in Hell.
Jesus said, : "you must be born again" and that has to happen on earth before you die, as there is no 2nd chance to be born again in Hell.
Redemption is found on earth for you, based on the Cross that was raised on Earth as your Blood Atonement.
He came To EARTH to accomplish your Salvation, on the Earth.
There is no Cross waiting for you in Eternity, and there is no Cross found in Hell.
Jesus said, : "you must be born again" and that has to happen on earth before you die, as there is no 2nd chance to be born again in Hell.
Redemption is found on earth for you, based on the Cross that was raised on Earth as your Blood Atonement.
amigo de christo
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Are you saying that if muslims , buddists , atheists and whaterverist heard the gospel and yet rejected JESUS as the CHRIST
will be damned .
IF SO , YOU ARE SPOT ON RIGHT . Our works , our so called love cannot save us . AND any love
that a man preaches that tells us that if one believes not on Christ yet did good is saved , IT AINT LOVE and IT AINT COMING FROM GOD
and it aint coming from THE SPIRIT . cause the SPIRIT testifies not of man and his ability to save himself .
THE SPIRIT WOULD HAVE TESTIFIED OF JESUS CHRIST . Many folks aint gonna make it on this false love broad road path .
The lambs who know GOD , WELL JESUS LEADS THOSE and they POINT TO HE ALONE and love all things HE did teach .
All else is winds of vainity . The apostels knew that too . We would be wise to learn THEM WORDS .
FOR what the SPIRIT INSPIRES IS GOOD FOR THE SOULS of the lambs .
Luke chapter 16, analogy by Jesus of the Richman and Lazarus.
Theirs Gulf that separates paradise and sheol. The saint's are in paradise.
The wicked and spirtualty dead are in sheol, called hell.
Theirs two different groups here.
First group. These are spirtualty dead who did love God, but didn't repent in the flesh body and listening to traditions of men, false doctrine. This group has chance at eternal life. They love God, but they were conditioned to accept traditions of men while in the flesh.
The second group. These are the wicked and heathen. They meet the 3 qualifiers for lake of fire.
1, they hate God.
2, they hate Christians.
3, they despise Gods laws.
Second esdras chapter 7 will further document this.
Theirs Gulf that separates paradise and sheol. The saint's are in paradise.
The wicked and spirtualty dead are in sheol, called hell.
Theirs two different groups here.
First group. These are spirtualty dead who did love God, but didn't repent in the flesh body and listening to traditions of men, false doctrine. This group has chance at eternal life. They love God, but they were conditioned to accept traditions of men while in the flesh.
The second group. These are the wicked and heathen. They meet the 3 qualifiers for lake of fire.
1, they hate God.
2, they hate Christians.
3, they despise Gods laws.
Second esdras chapter 7 will further document this.
ByGraceThroughFaith
Well-Known Member
Hebrews 9:27-28
"And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him"
This is a very clear passage teaching that all humans will physically die, one time, and after this, it is their Judgement that awaits them.
The First Coming of Jesus Christ is as the Saviour of the human race, where all sinners who REPENT of their sins and BELIEVE in the Good News (Mark 1:15), will be saved.
The Second Coming of Jesus Christ has no relation with sin, but for those who are His.
After all humans die, they go to a place called Hades, which, as described by Jesus Christ Himself, is a place of conscious suffering, which is also clear in Luke chapter 16. Thereafter they go into the Lake of Fire, as described in the Book of Revelation 19:20, 20:14, etc
It is a DECEPTION from the devil himself, in direct contradiction to the Word of God, for those who hold to a "hope" that after death, they will be offered another chance for salvation. This is a LIE from the father of LIES! There is not a single verse in the Inspired 66 Books of the Holy Bible, that anyone can be saved AFTER they die.
the Roman Catholic church, and others, teach the FALSE notion that after death, there is a place known as “purgatory”. This is NOT in the Inspired 66 Books of the Holy Bible, but in their own "bible", which includes, among other books, 2 Maccabees, which does teach this HERESY. This is yet another LIE from the father of LIES, the devil!
"And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment, so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him"
This is a very clear passage teaching that all humans will physically die, one time, and after this, it is their Judgement that awaits them.
The First Coming of Jesus Christ is as the Saviour of the human race, where all sinners who REPENT of their sins and BELIEVE in the Good News (Mark 1:15), will be saved.
The Second Coming of Jesus Christ has no relation with sin, but for those who are His.
After all humans die, they go to a place called Hades, which, as described by Jesus Christ Himself, is a place of conscious suffering, which is also clear in Luke chapter 16. Thereafter they go into the Lake of Fire, as described in the Book of Revelation 19:20, 20:14, etc
It is a DECEPTION from the devil himself, in direct contradiction to the Word of God, for those who hold to a "hope" that after death, they will be offered another chance for salvation. This is a LIE from the father of LIES! There is not a single verse in the Inspired 66 Books of the Holy Bible, that anyone can be saved AFTER they die.
the Roman Catholic church, and others, teach the FALSE notion that after death, there is a place known as “purgatory”. This is NOT in the Inspired 66 Books of the Holy Bible, but in their own "bible", which includes, among other books, 2 Maccabees, which does teach this HERESY. This is yet another LIE from the father of LIES, the devil!
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