Nisan 14

[Robert Gwin]

Nisan 14 begins at 6 pm tonight. 1988 yrs ago on that date Jesus gave his life in our behalf. It was the sacrifice to end all sacrifices. His sacrifice paid the ransom on inherited death. Christians all over the world will gather this evening in remembrance of him. The most important holy day for us.

To see what Jesus was doing on this day Nisan 13 33CE please read Luke 22:7-13; and Mark 14:12-16

After 6 pm see what Jesus and the apostles were doing at Luke 22:14-65

If you are appreciative of what was done in our behalf, show your gratitude by learning more about Jehovah and Jesus John 17:3, and be obedient best you can to the gospel of Jesus.

 

[Jay Ross]

Nisan 14 begins at 6 pm tonight. 1988 yrs ago on that date Jesus gave his life in our behalf. It was the sacrifice to end all sacrifices. His sacrifice paid the ransom on inherited death. Christians all over the world will gather this evening in remembrance of him. The most important holy day for us.

To see what Jesus was doing on this day Nisan 13 33CE please read Luke 22:7-13; and Mark 14:12-16

After 6 pm see what Jesus and the apostles were doing at Luke 22:14-65

If you are appreciative of what was done in our behalf, show your gratitude by learning more about Jehovah and Jesus John 17:3, and be obedient best you can to the gospel of Jesus.

So in your calculations, when did you assume that Christ was born? What year was it?
By my calculations, it was 1992 years ago, based on the consensus opinion of many scholars that Christ was born in 4 BC.

Shalom

 

[Enoch111]

By my calculations, it was 1992 years ago, based on the consensus opinion of many scholars that Christ was born in 4 BC.

4 B.C. = A.D. 1. Christ was crucified on the 14th of Nisan in AD 30. So 1991 would be correct. That is when "Messiah was cut off, but not for Himself" (Dan 9:26).

 

[Robert Gwin]

So in your calculations, when did you assume that Christ was born? What year was it?
By my calculations, it was 1992 years ago, based on the consensus opinion of many scholars that Christ was born in 4 BC.

Shalom

We think it was around 2 BCE Jay. He was 30 when he became the Messiah at his baptism, and his ministry was 3.5 yrs and we know he died on Nisan 14, 33CE. There was no 0 year. No one actually knows for sure.

Thanks for asking sir.

 

[Jay Ross]

There was no 0 year.

Technically, you are correct, but from the start of 1 BC to the end of 1 AD the length of this period is 2 years. So counting backwards to the end of 1 BC we can consider that it is equivalent to the year -1 after moving backwards 365.25 days. Likewise counting forward to the end of 1 AD we can consider that it is equivalent to the year 1 after the passing forwards 365.25 365.25 days.

With this being true, we have a theoretical 0 point in time on a numbers line when we are describing the years when events occurred in history, but because the various calendars we use have different starting points along this number line with respect to time we have a transition point, from BC to AD which can be considered to be the point zero along the number line describing time which has no length as a period of time. It just happens to be the transition point from a counting system that goes backwards in time, that increases negatively in value, from when theoretically, Christ was born, and a count system that goes forwards in time, that increases positively in value, from when Christ was theoretically born.

To overcome this supposed dilemma I have set my starting point for mankind from when Adam was created as the point on the timeline that I use to calculate time, as the point zero on the numbers line that I use to do my calculations for time on. That way I avoid the transition from the BC and AD numbering system. I have described my reference time period as, "After Adam," (AA), and considered the starting point to be after God had finished creating Adam. Using this method, I can create a chronology of the scriptures, without worrying about the BC and AD timelines.

To determine what the BC or AD year timeframes should be, I simply subtract 4100 from the years calculated on my AA time line, to determine the year in the BC and AD system. If the number is negative, then the year calculated if representing the BC time period, and if the number is positive, it represents the AD time period.

Now, I can determine the year from when Adam was created, to the end of the seventh Age, when Christ comes a second time to Judge all the peoples of the earth to determine whether they are righteous or unrighteous which determines whether they die the second death or not.

I know that this method of determining the time line for my chronology of God's timeline is reasonably accurate, with respect to the AA timeline, but I also accept that when correlating of the AA timeline with the AD timeline, that this is fussy from the perspective that there is no definitive "correction" number that can be used to move from one timeline system to the other. There will always be some "error" in how they are related to each other in real time and the size of that error is dependent on the assumptions that I had to use to reach my determination of the time.

This was why Christ could state that no one knows the "real" hour or day when the Second Coming will be.

Quite a few assumption have been expressed in the calculation outcomes for the duration of this time period as to it s duration.

Shalom

PS: - I define time to be the length of a period, between two non events, i.e. the starting and finishing points which have zero time associated with their passing.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Technically, you are correct, but from the start of 1 BC to the end of 1 AD the length of this period is 2 years. So counting backwards to the end of 1 BC we can consider that it is equivalent to the year -1 after moving backwards 365.25 days. Likewise counting forward to the end of 1 AD we can consider that it is equivalent to the year 1 after the passing forwards 365.25 365.25 days.

With this being true, we have a theoretical 0 point in time on a numbers line when we are describing the years when events occurred in history, but because the various calendars we use have different starting points along this number line with respect to time we have a transition point, from BC to AD which can be considered to be the point zero along the number line describing time which has no length as a period of time. It just happens to be the transition point from a counting system that goes backwards in time, that increases negatively in value, from when theoretically, Christ was born, and a count system that goes forwards in time, that increases positively in value, from when Christ was theoretically born.

To overcome this supposed dilemma I have set my starting point for mankind from when Adam was created as the point on the timeline that I use to calculate time, as the point zero on the numbers line that I use to do my calculations for time on. That way I avoid the transition from the BC and AD numbering system. I have described my reference time period as, "After Adam," (AA), and considered the starting point to be after God had finished creating Adam. Using this method, I can create a chronology of the scriptures, without worrying about the BC and AD timelines.

To determine what the BC or AD year timeframes should be, I simply subtract 4100 from the years calculated on my AA time line, to determine the year in the BC and AD system. If the number is negative, then the year calculated if representing the BC time period, and if the number is positive, it represents the AD time period.

Now, I can determine the year from when Adam was created, to the end of the seventh Age, when Christ comes a second time to Judge all the peoples of the earth to determine whether they are righteous or unrighteous which determines whether they die the second death or not.

I know that this method of determining the time line for my chronology of God's timeline is reasonably accurate, with respect to the AA timeline, but I also accept that when correlating of the AA timeline with the AD timeline, that this is fussy from the perspective that there is no definitive "correction" number that can be used to move from one timeline system to the other. There will always be some "error" in how they are related to each other in real time and the size of that error is dependent on the assumptions that I had to use to reach my determination of the time.

This was why Christ could state that no one knows the "real" hour or day when the Second Coming will be.

Quite a few assumption have been expressed in the calculation outcomes for the duration of this time period as to it s duration.

Shalom

PS: - I define time to be the length of a period, between two non events, i.e. the starting and finishing points which have zero time associated with their passing.

I can tell you Jay, I still do not know the day or hour, but I can narrow it down to within 3 days sir.

 

[Jay Ross]

I can tell you Jay, I still do not know the day or hour, but I can narrow it down to within 3 days sir.

Really? Within three days? The story telling which is contained in the scriptures has an accumulated accuracy error which could be out by up to five years.

I know that the accuracy of when Arachshad was born is usually out by one year, because the chronologists determined when he was born from when the flood started and not from when the flood ended one year later.

I know that many have the year when Abraham was born out by around 60 years, because of their lack of understanding cultural norms as to who of the patriarchs died a few years before Abraham left Haran to travel down towards the land of Canaan after finally leaving his father's household, who incidentally was still alive when Abraham did leave. The reason for this is that they discount the Genesis chronology in favour of the NT account of Stephen before he was stoned to death that Abraham left Haran after his "father" had died which was a reference to the death of Noah, while Abraham was living in Haran while acquiring his own household servants and flocks.

You claim that you know the year and also the approximate day that the Lord is returning in the clouds with all of the Heavenly Hosts, yet that event is still around 1,050 years into our future.

I know that the lesson from the fig tree that there is variable time span from when the Fig tree begin to bud new leaves and when the start of the Summer season begins which herald the start of the harvest of souls during the Millennium Age which could be plus or minus five years.

I know that you use the statement a couple of verse later in the Matthew Gospel when you believe that you understand the intended meaning of the Greek word, γενεὰ, "genea" as being a descendant "generational period," whereas, it also is a reference to a prolong period of time which is called an "age," which spans a period of time a little longer than 1,000 years.

If we have all of these errors in the time periods as recorded in the scriptures, then I do not believe your claim that you know the day of Christ's second coming to within three days.

Shalom

 

[Webers_Home]

.
According to Matt 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17, and Luke 22:7-15, Jesus ate
his seder during the night of his arrest.

According to John 13:1-2, John 18:28-29, John 19:13-14, and John 19:31,
the Jews ate their seders the night following his crucifixion.

So then, sufficient textual evidence certifies that Jesus ate his seder one
night ahead of the Jews' night; and also certifies that his first night in the
tomb coincided with the night during which the Jews were eating their
seders.

Seeing as how the Jews ate their seders during Saturday night in 2021, then
Jesus would've eaten his during Friday night.

BTW: Jesus was a prophet in close contact with God at all times so he
would've been privy to the correct calendar date to eat his seder. In other
words: Jesus didn't eat his early, rather, the Jews ate theirs late.
_

 

[Robert Gwin]

Really? Within three days? The story telling which is contained in the scriptures has an accumulated accuracy error which could be out by up to five years.

I know that the accuracy of when Arachshad was born is usually out by one year, because the chronologists determined when he was born from when the flood started and not from when the flood ended one year later.

I know that many have the year when Abraham was born out by around 60 years, because of their lack of understanding cultural norms as to who of the patriarchs died a few years before Abraham left Haran to travel down towards the land of Canaan after finally leaving his father's household, who incidentally was still alive when Abraham did leave. The reason for this is that they discount the Genesis chronology in favour of the NT account of Stephen before he was stoned to death that Abraham left Haran after his "father" had died which was a reference to the death of Noah, while Abraham was living in Haran while acquiring his own household servants and flocks.

You claim that you know the year and also the approximate day that the Lord is returning in the clouds with all of the Heavenly Hosts, yet that event is still around 1,050 years into our future.

I know that the lesson from the fig tree that there is variable time span from when the Fig tree begin to bud new leaves and when the start of the Summer season begins which herald the start of the harvest of souls during the Millennium Age which could be plus or five years.

I know that you use the statement a couple of verse later in the Matthew Gospel when you believe that you understand the intended meaning of the Greek word, γενεὰ, "genea" as being a descendant "generational period," whereas, it also is a reference to a prolong period of time which is called an "age," which spans a period of time a little longer than 1,000 years.

If we have all of these errors in the time periods as recorded in the scriptures, then I do not believe your claim that you know the day of Christ's second coming to within three days.

Shalom

If we are still alive at Jesus return in the clouds, lets see if I am correct within 3 days as I said. I predict he will come Wednesday, so when he does come, let's see if I am accurate in my prediction.

 

[Jay Ross]

If we are still alive at Jesus return in the clouds, lets see if I am correct within 3 days as I said. I predict he will come Wednesday, so when he does come, let's see if I am accurate in my prediction.

Really, next Wednesday? And in which week will that be? Will it be in many days time?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Really, next Wednesday? And in which week will that be? Will it be in many days time?

At this time I cannot narrow it down any further than that, when the end comes, if it is not within 3 days of Wednesday, you let me know and I will accept my error Jay.

 

[Jay Ross]

At this time I cannot narrow it down any further than that, when the end comes, if it is not within 3 days of Wednesday, you let me know and I will accept my error Jay.

With the time for the Second advent being so far into our future, i.e. 1,000 + years into our future, and your inability to narrow it down any closer than a guess for a particular day of the week, I would suggest to you that your rational is fanciful and something that should not be considered at all.

Even your understanding of the year for when the end of this particular age will be is suspect. I know that the year of Armageddon will be around 25 ± 5 years into our future and that time of judgement will come like a thief in the night, but the sign of the Kings of the earth assembling at Armageddon will be visible for all of the earth to see, just like all the earth saw the three foul frog like spirits go out to perform signs and wonders for all of the earth to see in 2021 with the start of drawing all of the kings of the earth together to act collectively for a particular purpose to oppose God.

Now because the determination of when the Passover will occur is dependant on when the new moon is observed in conjunction with the harvest season for the barley, is indeterminate each year, I would suggest that the actual day to determine which day of the week the Passover will occur on is also indeterminate. The year the Second Advent will occur in will be self evident, but the hour and the day will nor be so evident as you are suggesting, and the error could be out by up to 35 days depending on the New moon being sighted in relation to when the barley harvest will occur during that particular year.

That is why we are told to watch and wait for the actual signs to appear. Christ does not require us to calculate the actual time when it will occur, because God may call time early to preserve life on the earth at that time so that all of mankind is killed of by Satan's fury.

Shalom

 

[Robert Gwin]

With the time for the Second advent being so far into our future, i.e. 1,000 + years into our future, and your inability to narrow it down any closer than a guess for a particular day of the week, I would suggest to you that your rational is fanciful and something that should not be considered at all.

Even your understanding of the year for when the end of this particular age will be is suspect. I know that the year of Armageddon will be around 25 ± 5 years into our future and that time of judgement will come like a thief in the night, but the sign of the Kings of the earth assembling at Armageddon will be visible for all of the earth to see, just like all the earth saw the three foul frog like spirits go out to perform signs and wonders for all of the earth to see in 2021 with the start of drawing all of the kings of the earth together to act collectively for a particular purpose to oppose God.

Now because the determination of when the Passover will occur is dependant on when the new moon is observed in conjunction with the harvest season for the barley, is indeterminate each year, I would suggest that the actual day to determine which day of the week the Passover will occur on is also indeterminate. The year the Second Advent will occur in will be self evident, but the hour and the day will nor be so evident as you are suggesting, and the error could be out by up to 35 days depending on the New moon being sighted in relation to when the barley harvest will occur during that particular year.

That is why we are told to watch and wait for the actual signs to appear. Christ does not require us to calculate the actual time when it will occur, because God may call time early to preserve life on the earth at that time so that all of mankind is killed of by Satan's fury.

Shalom

On a serious note sir, we believe Jesus was enthroned in 1914, and that the generation started at that time. If we are incorrect and it is yet over 1kyrs in the future, I frankly do not see how man can survive that much longer without Divine intervention.

 

[Jay Ross]

On a serious note sir, we believe Jesus was enthroned in 1914, and that the generation started at that time. If we are incorrect and it is yet over 1kyrs in the future, I frankly do not see how man can survive that much longer without Divine intervention.

Armageddon did not happen in 1914 as you have suggested. As Rev. 16:12-16 tells us, Armageddon will occur after we see the signs and wonders performed by the three frog like spirits that will be seen by all of the peoples of the earth. That event, I believe, occurred in 9-11-2001 to herald the beginning of the drawing of the nations to assemble at Armageddon where the kings of the earth will be judged, and at the same time the wicked fallen heavenly hosts, i.e. angels will also be judges along with other heavenly hosts. This judgement of the heavenly hosts and Christ's receiving of His dominion where all of mankind should worship Him is recorded in Dan. 7:11-14, while the judgement of the kings of the earth is recorded, in conjunction with the heavenly hosts, is found in Isa. 24:21-22.

The Judgement of the Kings of the earth and the heavenly hosts at the time of the kings of the earth assembling at the place known as Armageddon, will be God's divine intervention, at the end of this present Age, when God will establish His everlasting Kingdom here on the earth based on the Foundational rock/truth, that will come done out of Heaven that, "the Christ, is the Son of God."

Trying to understand the timeline of God is difficult for us as our minds are not capable of comprehending the timespan of God's prophetic words.

Perhaps, you need to ditch what you have been told and spend time in the scriptures so that you can find out God's truth for yourself.

Shalom

 

[Robert Gwin]

Armageddon did not happen in 1914 as you have suggested. As Rev. 16:12-16 tells us, Armageddon will occur after we see the signs and wonders performed by the three frog like spirits that will be seen by all of the peoples of the earth. That event, I believe, occurred in 9-11-2001 to herald the beginning of the drawing of the nations to assemble at Armageddon where the kings of the earth will be judged, and at the same time the wicked fallen heavenly hosts, i.e. angels will also be judges along with other heavenly hosts. This judgement of the heavenly hosts and Christ's receiving of His dominion where all of mankind should worship Him is recorded in Dan. 7:11-14, while the judgement of the kings of the earth is recorded, in conjunction with the heavenly hosts, is found in Isa. 24:21-22.

The Judgement of the Kings of the earth and the heavenly hosts at the time of the kings of the earth assembling at the place known as Armageddon, will be God's divine intervention, at the end of this present Age, when God will establish His everlasting Kingdom here on the earth based on the Foundational rock/truth, that will come done out of Heaven that, "the Christ, is the Son of God."

Trying to understand the timeline of God is difficult for us as our minds are not capable of comprehending the timespan of God's prophetic words.

Perhaps, you need to ditch what you have been told and spend time in the scriptures so that you can find out God's truth for yourself.

Shalom

Perhaps you misunderstand what I said sir, Jesus was enthroned as King in 1914, Armageddon would occur at his return, which would not exceed the generations life span. Armageddon is what many call the war that ends this system. We believe we are very close now to the outbreak of the great tribulation which will culminate in the battle of Armageddon to preserve God's people from extinction Mat 24:22

 

[Jay Ross]

Perhaps you misunderstand what I said sir, Jesus was enthroned as King in 1914, Armageddon would occur at his return, which would not exceed the generations life span. Armageddon is what many call the war that ends this system. We believe we are very close now to the outbreak of the great tribulation which will culminate in the battle of Armageddon to preserve God's people from extinction Mat 24:22

No, I did not misunderstand you. What you have claimed, that Jesus was enthroned as king in 1914, does not match up with scripture, nor does Armageddon occur at the Second Advent as you are suggesting. 9/11 signalled the drawing of the kings of the earth to assemble at Armageddon when the three foul frog like spirits went out from Satan, the False Prophet and the Beast, to do signs and wonders for the whole earth to see.

Jesus is given dominion over all of the people of the earth, such that they should worship Him, just after the Beasts of Dan. 7: 1-12. have been judged, in Dan. 7:13-14 and in Dan. 2:44, we are told that: - "in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever." And in Dan. 2:34-35, we are also told: -

Dan. 2:34-35: - 34 You watched while a stone was cut out without hands, which struck the image on its feet of iron and clay, and broke them in pieces. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were crushed together, and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; the wind carried them away so that no trace of them was found. And the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.​

Where the "great mountain" is a metaphor for the final Religion that will dominate the whole earth and which Satan is let lose for a little while to shake until he is take capture once more and is finally punished with the Beast and the False Prophet in the Lake of Fire in the scenes towards the very end of the Millennium Age which is over 1,000 years into our still distant future. When Satan, the Beast and the False Prophet is released from the Bottomless Pit after being imprisoned for 1,000 years, from the beginning of the Millennium Age, they will go out to the nations of the earth, described as Gog and Magog which are found furthest from from Jerusalem, i.e. those who still do not acknowledge Jesus as the source of their salvation, and form an army that will sweep across the face of the earth which will finally descend upon Jerusalem where God will prevail over them and their manifested army and they will be overcome.

Christ's dominion is still one which allows the people of the earth a free choice as to whether or not they will worship Christ.

It is my understanding that the end of this present Age, when the judgement of the kings of the earth will occur at Armageddon, will be in around 25 ± 5 years from now depending on whether or not the fig tree, i.e. the formation of Israel in 1948 in their own strength was because of an early or late start to the Spring Season, at the start of the Sumner Season for the harvest of Souls planted in the fertile soil of God's salvation field.

Continued in the next post

 

[Jay Ross]

Continued from the previous post: -

I would warn you against building your understanding of God, Line upon Line, Precept upon Precept, less you fall backwards broken and are snared.

Isaiah 28:1-22

Woe to Ephraim and Jerusalem​

28:1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim,

Whose glorious beauty is a fading flower
Which is at the head of the verdant valleys,
To those who are overcome with wine!​

2 Behold, the Lord has a mighty and strong one,

Like a tempest of hail and a destroying storm,
Like a flood of mighty waters overflowing,
Who will bring them down to the earth with His hand.​

3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim,

Will be trampled underfoot;​

4 And the glorious beauty is a fading flower

Which is at the head of the verdant valley,
Like the first fruit before the summer,
Which an observer sees;
He eats it up while it is still in his hand.
​

5 In that day the Lord of hosts will be

For a crown of glory and a diadem of beauty
To the remnant of His people,​

6 For a spirit of justice to him who sits in judgment,

And for strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate.
​

7 But they also have erred through wine,

And through intoxicating drink are out of the way;
The priest and the prophet have erred through intoxicating drink,
They are swallowed up by wine,
They are out of the way through intoxicating drink;
They err in vision they stumble in judgment.​

8 For all tables are full of vomit and filth;

No place is clean.​

9 "Whom will he teach knowledge?

And whom will he make to understand the message?
Those just weaned from milk?
Those just drawn from the breasts?​

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,

Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little."
​

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue

He will speak to this people,​

12 To whom He said, "This is the rest with which

You may cause the weary to rest,"
And, "This is the refreshing";
Yet they would not hear.​

13 But the word of the Lord was to them,

"Precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little,"
That they might go and fall backward, and be broken
And snared and caught.
​

14 Therefore hear the word of the Lord, you scornful men,

Who rule this people who are in Jerusalem,​

15 Because you have said, "We have made a covenant with death,

And with Sheol we are in agreement.
When the overflowing scourge passes through,
It will not come to us,
For we have made lies our refuge,
And under falsehood we have hidden ourselves."​

A Cornerstone in Zion

16 Therefore thus says the Lord God:​

"Behold, I lay in Zion a stone for a foundation,
A tried stone, a precious cornerstone, a sure foundation;
Whoever believes will not act hastily.​

17 Also I will make justice the measuring line,

And righteousness the plummet;
The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies,
And the waters will overflow the hiding place.​

18 Your covenant with death will be annulled,

And your agreement with Sheol will not stand;
When the overflowing scourge passes through,
Then you will be trampled down by it.​

19 As often as it goes out it will take you;

For morning by morning, it will pass over,
And by day and by night;
It will be a terror just to understand the report."
​

20 For the bed is too short to stretch out on,

And the covering so narrow that one cannot wrap himself in it.​

21 For the Lord will rise up as at Mount Perazim,

He will be angry as in the Valley of Gibeon —
That He may do His work, His awesome work,
And bring to pass His act, His unusual act.​

22 Now therefore, do not be mockers,

Lest your bonds be made strong;
For I have heard from the Lord God of hosts,
A destruction determined even upon the whole earth.​

The Chapter then goes on to encourage us to listen to the teaching of God because it is wonderful in counsel and guidance.

What you are presenting is, IMHO, not in line with the Prophetic word of God.

Shalom

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

We think it was around 2 BCE Jay. He was 30 when he became the Messiah at his baptism, and his ministry was 3.5 yrs and we know he died on Nisan 14, 33CE. There was no 0 year. No one actually knows for sure.

Now do you know or don't you know?

Jesus was the Messiah always. He began his public ministry at age 30.
His ministry was indeed 3.5 years.
And we do know that He died on the fourteenth day of the First Month.
But we cannot know exactly in which AD year.
There's no such thing as <<There was no 0 year>> That we know for sure.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

.
According to Matt 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17, and Luke 22:7-15, Jesus ate
his seder during the night of his arrest.

Jesus and his disciples ate no seder. There is nothing of the seder in those texts.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

According to John 13:1-2, John 18:28-29, John 19:13-14, and John 19:31, the Jews ate their seders the night following his crucifixion.

<<John 13:1-2>> is the parallel of Matt 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17, and Luke 22:7-15 Abib 14 "EVENING" "BEFORE the Feast" on Abib 15.

<<John 18:28-29>> was before sunrise on Abib 14 day of Crucifixion. Parallels Mk15:1 Mt27:1 Lk23:1 and verses before.

<<John 19:13-14>> was sunrise after 6AM ROMAN TIME on Abib 14 day of Crucifixion = "Preparation of the Passover" Jonn 19:14. Parallels Mk15:1 Mt27:1 Lk23:1 and verses after.

The Jews NEVER ate their seders which were supposed to be eaten "the night following" "the first day they killed the passover". The Sacrifice of Jesus the Lamb of God "THAT SELFSAME DAY" brought the eternal END to seders of blood offerings and sacrifices eaten on "THAT DAY".