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Salvation in the Bible works like this:

1. Repent and believe.
2. Sin no more.
3. Endure to the end.

Your accusation is based on a man made teaching, not the scriptures.

You left out the Best Part "And if It's Not by Grace, It's your Works, In Christianity Salvation is not of Works"

Then notice you present Man-made teaching namely yours... and put your salvation on it, No Gospel Message, No Jesus, just your List of things you think will keep you saved, If that's your list that's what you are gonna try and do to be saved and stay saved, you just listed your salvation Plan Without any scripture What can I say except that's not scripture that's what you are trusting in to keep you Saved...

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Shows number 2 on your list is a lie and not true, And it Shows as there in is no Jesus mentioned in Your Salvation List
 
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You left out the Best Part "And if It's Not by Grace, It's your Works, In Christianity Salvation is not of Works"

Then notice you present Man-made teaching namely yours... and put your salvation on it, No Gospel Message, No Jesus, just your List of things you think will keep you saved, If that's your list that's what you are gonna try and do to be saved and stay saved, you just listed your salvation Plan Without any scripture What can I say except that's not scripture that's what you are trusting in to keep you Saved...

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Shows number 2 on your list is a lie and not true, And it Shows as there in is no Jesus mentioned in Your Salvation List

Paul said:

"…that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance." (Acts 26:20)

Jesus said:

"…go, and sin no more." (John 8:11)

And Jesus said:

"…he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13)

And Peter said regarding the gospel:

"…Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)

What “lie” have I told?
 
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Paul said:

"…that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance." (Acts 26:20)

Jesus said:

"…go, and sin no more." (John 8:11)

And Jesus said:

"…he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13)

And Peter said regarding the gospel:

"…Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)

What “lie” have I told?

I said Number 2 on your list Your Sin no More to be Saved

Romans 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, so that the body of sin might be annulled, that we are no longer enslaved to sin.

Made Free and Given Liberty to be able to choose not to Sin because you are no longer a slave to it, but your requirement of Sin No more and endure For Salvation is plain (Your Works) If its God working Through you Its Gods work and he gets the Glory, But single verses out of context Don't undo Verses that prove Sin is Still a problem in the flesh, Here are some verses that show Sin is still a problem in the flesh until it goes back to the dirt it came from

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous

It's in the Lords Prayer for a Reason

Luke 11:4 And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Therefore the Warning Exists 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
 

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I think humility and righteousness go hand in hand. Pride would be the opposite. God loves the humble in heart. .
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humbleness should be in the way in which we present our messages....or responses on the thread.

I'm learning you have to give a little....For most of the time people want to be heard and valued....before you can spit some things out to them......In a sense it comes down to simply respect.

We simply have to learn to do everything in away that will glorify God.

But Then there are times knowledge just needs to be presented. And it's not going to get out until you simply ignore comments that stray you off from making necessary points that will challenge previous ideals or doctrine.

Sometimes we Just need to state the facts about teaching OSAS as the Gospel...Because it is not about many OSASers involved in the thread, but those who really want to know why their life has not changed, and why they still are doing the same things they did after they came down to the Alter. That is those who read the Post outside of interacting here.

To get caught up in drama is just what the devil wants....But God is not the author of confusion...
 

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So for myself A previous OSASer and many others.

The evangelizism I was under then went like this :DDo you believe Jesus died for your sins and arose?
If the answer is yes, then you are saved-meaning you have heaven when you die.

....But is that the intent of what John, Jesus, and the disciples were saying?

The disciples preached Christ that one would Trust Him.
One reason in my opinion God announced His son was that we would fix our eyes on Him and believe.
Jesus announces the Good news that the kingdom was at hand, And we know He is the King. He preached peace and went about doing good.

Repentance and Forgiveness were to be preached in His name.....For He is the one who grants them.

But what many have heeded to in that style of evangelizism is that Jesus did it all,
and all we have to do is believe He did it all...

Therefore if you stop believing He did it all you do not have heaven when you die.

That makes their salvation merely connected to what He did.....

But...the ideal of Repentance and Forgiveness being preached in His Name was that you first accept Him for who He is, the Son of the Living God....

Asked: Acts 8

12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

Look what the eunuch's reply was, read Acts 8

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

So is that what I confessed?

Romans 10
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher

So recall how and why they preached Christ?
They preached Christ by what He did. So we would Trust Him.
 
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Salvation in the Bible works like this:

1. Repent and believe.
2. Sin no more.
3. Endure to the end.



The above? Pure HOGWASH. Don’t buy it for one second. Gal1:8 “ Let anyone who preaches a different gospel be Accursed”—— That means let them be God Damned....


Salvation in the Bible works like this :
1.Believe Paul’s Gospel , given to him by Jesus
2. Find it in 1Cor 15:1-4 ( Jesus died for your sins and rose from the grave )
3. Rest in that Gospel which means not to add to it lest you be guilty of disobedience and unbelief
 

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Paul said:

"…that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance." (Acts 26:20)

Jesus said:

"…go, and sin no more." (John 8:11)

And Jesus said:

"…he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13)

And Peter said regarding the gospel:

"…Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)

What “lie” have I told?


No lies here.....just a hodge- podge Of unrelated Scriptures , taken out of context that have turned The Truth Of The Gospel into a bunch of Satanic , Religious Mush. You are not a “ liar” .....you are something worse....you are a Gospel Perverter......If you knew the danger you were in you would be peeing in your pants.....Read Gal. 1:8 and recognize yourself ....maybe, just maybe God will grant you repentance....

Btw....Gal 1:8 say that if anybody comes along preaching a different “ gospel” than what Paul preached—- let them be Damned by God.....are you “ peeing” yet?
 

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Salvation in the Bible works like this :
1.Believe Paul’s Gospel , given to him by Jesus
2. Find it in 1Cor 15:1-4 ( Jesus died for your sins and rose from the grave )
3. Rest in that Gospel which means not to add to it lest you be guilty of disobedience and unbelief

Now kindly provide the scriptures that says these things (as I have done with my list).

Waiting…
 
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a hodge- podge Of unrelated Scriptures , taken out of context that have turned The Truth Of The Gospel into a bunch of Satanic , Religious Mush

Yes, unrelated and out of context of Once Saved Always Saved.

And that which you accuse of having “turned The Truth Of The Gospel into a bunch of Satanic , Religious Mush” are the scriptures that I quoted, not my words.
 

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Now kindly provide the scriptures that says these things (as I have done with my list).

Waiting…


Actually, I kinda over complicated things....Anybody out there that wants to be Saved ? It’s simple—— ASK! “ Anybody that ASKS to be Saved , WILL be Saved” .... Romans 10:13......

The secret to getting Saved is seeing the absolute NEED for it.....

More later....late for a Fourth of July party ....it’s so hot here in Southern Ohio today....If they have any ice- cold beer at the Party, I could be tempted to have one.....mmmmmm, ice-cold beer .....I probably will give in to the temptation....I’ll make a toast to ‘ religionists” and ‘ Legalists” and even “ Gospel Perverters” .....Lol....glug, glug , glug......
 

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Just don’t get drunk and exercise moderation and it will not be sin.

Enjoy!
One person values one day over another, another values every day the same. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.


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13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.
 

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Yes, unrelated and out of context of Once Saved Always Saved.

And that which you accuse of having “turned The Truth Of The Gospel into a bunch of Satanic , Religious Mush” are the scriptures that I quoted, not my words.






The Scriptures are perfect.....it’s your “ twist” that is “ mush”

“ Satan can quote Scripture for his purposes”
 

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One person values one day over another, another values every day the same. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.


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13 Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. 14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. 15 For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. 16 So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. 19 So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.


It’s true we must look out for weaker Brothers.....some in here are not “ Brothers” ....even if they were , we cut weak Brothers some slack.....we DONT let them run the Church....or Forums
 

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Just don’t get drunk and exercise moderation and it will not be sin.

Enjoy!


I drank Coke.....I HATE the taste of beer.....lol....

I was pleasantly surprised to see you did not throw a religious hissy- fit over the fact that somebody might enjoy a beer or two. Getting drunk? That is another matter all together and of course “ that “ would be a sin....and with most sins , I ain't interested.....
 

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Salvation in the Bible works like this :
1.Believe Paul’s Gospel , given to him by Jesus
2. Find it in 1Cor 15:1-4 ( Jesus died for your sins and rose from the grave )
3. Rest in that Gospel which means not to add to it lest you be guilty of disobedience and unbelief
Now kindly provide the scriptures that says these things (as I have done with my list).


1. Gal1:11-12 “ the Gospel I preached was not of human origin, I received it from Jesus Christ...”
1 Cor 15:1-2 “ I declare unto you the Gospel by which you are Saved”

2. See above....

3 Hebrews chapters 3 and 4....
Gal:5
 

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I drank Coke.....I HATE the taste of beer.....lol....

I was pleasantly surprised to see you did not throw a religious hissy- fit over the fact that somebody might enjoy a beer or two. Getting drunk? That is another matter all together and of course “ that “ would be a sin....and with most sins , I ain't interested.....
Jeremiah 14:7-12 O LORD, though our iniquities testify against us, do thou it for thy name's sake: for our backslidings are many; we have sinned against thee. (8) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night? (9) Why shouldest thou be as a man astonied, as a mighty man that cannot save? yet thou, O LORD, art in the midst of us, and we are called by thy name; leave us not. (10) Thus saith the LORD unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the LORD doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. (11) Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good. (12) When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

Hosea 11:7 And my people are bent to backsliding from me: though they called them to the most High, none at all would exalt him.

Matthew 24:11-14 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. (12) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. (14) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

2 Peter 2:20-21 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. (21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

Revelation 2:4-5 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. (5) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Matthew 8:11-12 I tell you, many will come from east and west and will feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom from heaven. (12) But the unfaithful heirs of that kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside. In that place there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 22:13-14 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (14) For many are called, but few are chosen.
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Jeremiah 14:7-12 O LORD, though our iniquities testify against us, do thou it for thy name's sake: for our backslidings are many; we have sinned against thee. (8) O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night? (9) Why shouldest thou be as a man astonied, as a mighty man that cannot save? yet thou, O LORD, art in the midst of us, and we are called by thy name; leave us not. (10) Thus saith the LORD unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the LORD doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins. (11) Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good. (12) When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

Hosea 11:7 And my people are bent to backsliding from me: though they called them to the most High, none at all would exalt him.

Matthew 24:11-14 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. (12) And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. (14) And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

2 Peter 2:20-21 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. (21) For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

Revelation 2:4-5 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. (5) Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

Matthew 8:11-12 I tell you, many will come from east and west and will feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom from heaven. (12) But the unfaithful heirs of that kingdom will be thrown into the darkness outside. In that place there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 22:13-14 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (14) For many are called, but few are chosen.
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Some good stuff here....was there a point to any of it?
 

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Who was it that said people could not lose their salvation?
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Jesus?

He said we have eternal life. Not conditional life.

WHY don't you trust him?

He said all the father gave him he would never lose

He said whoever believed in him would never die. live forever. has eternal life and will live as long as he lives.

I can go on and on. But we know it will do no good. when your stuck your stuck
 
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