new version of OSAS?

[HisLife]

If the child is sufficiently wayward it will be disinherited.

My friend Addy said it so well I thought she could answer this question for me

Oh Cooper... I know you have me on ignore but this is horrifying.... I had a father who abandoned me as a child... He just walked out
the door without even a goodbye... when I was 14... To state that you would disinherit a child ( no matter how bad )... is alarming.
Hopefully you are not a father... The world needs GOOD fathers.

 

[Addy]

You are right... legalists are stealers of JOY... and thieves of PEACE. That is why my appearances are brief on these threads anymore.

 

[Cooper]

My friend Addy said it so well I thought she could answer this question for me

Oh Cooper... I know you have me on ignore but this is horrifying.... I had a father who abandoned me as a child... He just walked out
the door without even a goodbye... when I was 14... To state that you would disinherit a child ( no matter how bad )... is alarming.
Hopefully you are not a father... The world needs GOOD fathers.

That is what God will do to those who serve two masters. Believe it.
.

 

[HisLife]

That is what God will do to those who serve two masters. Believe it.

Yikes that's pretty mean, But you are completely wrong, No one can serve two masters

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

 

[Cooper]

Yikes that's pretty mean, But you are completely wrong, No one can serve two masters

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

That is what I said. No husband can serve two wives, and get away with it, and no man can serve God and mammon and get away with it. There will be consequences, and separation is the result.
.

 

[Corlove13]

If you take the scriptures as a hole the context is obvious that the sins of the repenting and believing man AT THAT TIME are those that are taken away. Not future wilfull sins. God can work with struggling babes as they grow with regards to sins committed in ignorance (John 15:2). But the time must come eventually that they achieve this:

"Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:" (Ephesians 4:13)

Once Saved Always Saved proponents teach that we remain sinning babes in Christ (wether they express it that way or not).

As a new creature in Christ you don’t do the evil deeds of the old creation.

The New Testament is explicit in these things. But many are taught to force the scriptures into a simple one dimensional box. Thus they become one dimensional in there faith and will be counted as lukewarm or outright reprobates on the end.

I think God judges according to what w

Yes many do believe and fall away . Course john says they were never truly of us .
Thus my approach is , we better make sure we are following the biblical JESUS .
Cause that is what i notice that most do not do . So then the question becomes do they themselves really know Him
or are they following mens doctrines . And you guessed it , it is the latter .
If JESUS told His own , on earth and from heaven they must endure to the end , I dont see why the big ado
is made when i say and remind others to do the same .
IF peter knew those he wrote to knew the truth , but warned them as well , BUT take beware lest you too
be taken in with the error of the wicked and fall from your own steadfastness . That when i warn
we must continue in Christ and not take hold on the great wicked all inclusive lie , Why that is such a problem .
Fact is the early church warned folks THEY DID have to continue in the goodness of GOD .
Why the big ado is when i just warn the same . You see , a lamb should know They must continue to the end .
Yet just the reminder and some folks act like those who actually warn it , DONT trust in CHRIST .
BUT if CHRIST Said it , THEN IT IS HE I TRUST IN . HE said those who endure to the END would be saved .
HE said that . And i beleive HIM over men . We need to take every promise and heed also every warning .
We should behold both the goodness and severity of GOD . But many do not .
The battle has now become , Not OASAS or NON OSAS for me , ITS BECOME FOLKS better learn the biblical Christ
I watch both sides mess things up . The thing is , LEARN the biblical JESUS well .
BE hearers and doers , or we simply are truly deceiving ourselves . Anyone who knows Christ , the biblical one , would
have the SPIRIT and if they do they would be hearers and doers . FOR HE GIVES us the desire to do and the ability to do .
THEY would also , now take note , ALSO remind others to DO the same . BY that same Spirit .
SO Why is it so attacked by so many , when one reminds we must be hearers and doers of the word or we are deceiving ourselves .
Most folks are not truly learning JESUS . YET if we have the SPIRIT it would point us RIGHT to that JESUS . SO my question
now is , WHY are so many listening to men explain away scriptures . FOR If we had the SPIRIT would we not just
be embracing all things taught . WHY the need to explain away some scriptures . EVERY WORD of GOD , every Word
HE inspired whether warning or promise , IS FOR OUR GOOD . SO WHY explain away the warnings . WHY do that .
SEE something is OFF in some folks . ANd i see it on both sides . SO instead of debating this same topic over and over and over
again . MY mission is to point folks back to the biblical JESUS . Back to reading the bible , FOR OURSELVES and often .

Amen! GOOD READ!
IT'S ABOUT THE Journey...
If we are given the beginning and end
Then it's about staying on the course...
By the aid of the Holy Spirit.

The goal is to save us from actual sin...our bodies need redeeming...too...
And that's through continual reliance on Jesus
Where our hearts are changed...

If people are saved.....and to much is given much is required....

I still say what will heaven be like for those who did not purify themselves by the word, by staying close to Jesus??

If we are around Him now, would we be worried? Especially when He calls His disciples friends?

1 John 4:17Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the Day of Judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

 

[Taken]

Yes many do believe and fall away .

Absolutely True.
* They FALL "away" FROM "FAITH."
* They DO NOT FALL "FROM" having received SALVATION", then "Lose their Salvation".
* They LOSE "FAITH."
* They LOSE "receiving their Salvation".

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

That is what I said. No husband can serve two wives, and get away with it, and no man can serve God and mammon and get away with it. There will be consequences, and separation is the result.
.

Men do not serve their wives.
A wife is a helpmate to their husbands.
A husband is a servant to God.
(Well, that is the design / Order, Way of God)
Men have Freewill to learn and FOLLOW, Gods Order, Way....or not.

Yes, Consequences are a big part of Gods Design. Consequences; are simply results of choices and can be Good or Bad.

Yes, Separation is on the Agenda.
Effectively...All men shall be: WITH or WITHOUT the Lord God.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[amadeus]

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock

I never come into a thread trying to trick or trap anyone. Sometimes I certainly misunderstand where the person is and may therefore say the wrong things giving an negative impression which was not intended.

I do try to pay attention to people but very often unless I have known a person a long time on the Internet, I don't know them well at all so I will respond, if at all, to their specific posts rather to the person. At 77 it takes me a long time to get to know anyone and people come and go a lot here and sometimes one person will use more than one name on different forums and I simply lose track of which is which. My mind is very slow to hold onto such things as it once did, so I do the best that I can. I pray regularly for God's help...

I presume when I meet a new person that he is sincere in the things of God unless or until he gives me reason to believe otherwise. Church affiliations, when known about a person, may or may not be helpful, but I strive not to allow that alone to influence my actions toward that person. Does this help you understand where I am coming from...?

Exactly But you haven't Asked either, But you did quote Luke 12:48 Which I find interesting in the context, I get your point and I did say as one of my last points I will try and be more patient with them, So Think of the point you came in with after that and What standard are you actually using, But regardless I will take your point and think on it.

My standard I hope is the one God wants me to have. I know that sometimes I miss, and that is surely on me. I apologize if I have offended you without cause.

You used that judgment so lets put the same back on you,

Hmmm? Did I judge you or what you said? Possibly I disagreed. I certainly do that with people at times. I try not to judge finally leaving that in the hands of God where it belongs.

In pauls teachings to the church revealed in the New Testament, How would Paul who taught the church teach to deal with people that Reject The Blood of Jesus willingly, and or try to scheme and do harm to people weak in the faith on purpose, Be nice to them? Sing and praises with them? Love them no matter what? or protect the flock, kick them out, Don't even eat with them etc That's where the verse you use comes back to you And what you are doing. There is a responsibility to Feed and Protect the Sheep especially from ones that want to destroy them, Not encourage them sings songs and praise with them while they are doing it and then stick up for them, what's the judgment and consequences for that? Love Can Hate what opposes it, God is Love But God can Hate there are very serious standards and hypocrisy is very dangerous. But you came in with your view on the matter but The same is back to you now, I'll think on what you said, I hope you do the same And think on The consequences for your actions as well

Again, I presented my views on some things in the way I understand them trying not to purposely offend anyone. Of course, some people take offense because I disagree. You made some statements here which do not communicate a purpose here for me so I do not understand them or why they were directed at me. Take care in the Lord!

Give God the glory!

 

[Corlove13]

I think God judges according to what w

Amen! GOOD READ!
IT'S ABOUT THE Journey...
If we are given the beginning and end
Then it's about staying on the course...
By the aid of the Holy Spirit.

The goal is to save us from actual sin...our bodies need redeeming...too...
And that's through continual reliance on Jesus
Where our hearts are changed...

If people are saved.....and to much is given much is required....

I still say what will heaven be like for those who did not purify themselves by the word, by staying close to Jesus??

If we are around Him now, would we be worried? Especially when He calls His disciples friends?

1 John 4:17Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the Day of Judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world.

Absolutely True.
* They FALL "away" FROM "FAITH."
* They DO NOT FALL "FROM" having received SALVATION", then "Lose their Salvation".
* They LOSE "FAITH."
* They LOSE "receiving their Salvation".

God Bless,
Taken

As A noun Salvation Is Jesus Life"Spirit" right?
As A verb salvation is deliverence by Jesus's Spirit.
Salvation is a Life

Jesus became the Source of Salvation for all who believe ...

 

[amadeus]

Another oopsy is to assume you can walk the broad road that leads to destruction, believing it is the road to glory.

Although we are not saved by works, we should be living a life that is pleasing to God who looks on the heart and knows our innermost thoughts.
.

Yes, you are seemingly speaking of the delusions of men which they embrace because either they never really had or they have lost their love for truth. In the interim they may be walking blindly into that broad way to destruction...

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" II Thess 2:10-11

Like everyone else, deluded people believe they are right. Having the truth alone will not save a person if the person does not also love the truth. Can a person love the truth without fully knowing it? Did anyone love his spouse when they were first married without knowing his spouse very well at all?

How well did we know Jesus when we first met Him and fell in love with Him? Do we know Him better now? Considering then that Jesus is the Truth, how well do we know Him now? Hopefully better that we did at the first... even though according what Paul wrote our vision of Him may not be quite a "face to face" one yet, but rather "as through a glass darkly" vision...

Improving all of the time... yes?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Z

Hi buddy these Forums are exhausting to be honest, Not much joy to hang around people that Don't Even Believe in Fundamentals of the Faith and sing and dance While denying Jesus Blood was sufficient and Christians Can go to hell, But you have to be nice to the legalist because they always ready to judge you for not been nice or loving enough even while singing while accusing others to hell, The extremes of hypocrisy. Tough Place When you could spend time with ya kids or go out in the sun....BB deserves a medal putting up with the blasphemy day in day out will finish some points deal with some issues, But are you able to find many posts in this place praising Jesus? Giving thanks, I find Lots of boasting about works...how Good have you been today Addy Pffft

If there is any “ secret” to all of this, it would be the following—- nobody “ EVER” changes anybody's mind in these Forums .....so what is the point? We already know the answer to that , don’t we?

We can’t seem to persuade anybody out there that they are in error, but we “can” (hopefully) rescue the Newbies out there that have heard nothing but bad teaching and Hog- Wash all of their church- lives ( as I did in the Methodist Church of my youth ) and can benefit from the wise teachings and insights of God-Gifted and God- Sent Teachers—- Those That “ Rightly Divide” the Word Of God....Those That have NOT made the error of turning Christianity into just another “ religion” of “ do do this and don’t do that” to EARN God’s approval and make themselves “ good enough” to merit Heaven......

When I make posts, I usually do not even “ think” of the person I am responding to .I talk “ past” them and use them as a “ Springboard” to get the Truth out there.....That “ Truth” being “ Jesus Saves, no ‘ buts’ attached”......

The Messages I try to send can be summed up with a few Truths found in the lyrics of a few great, inspired Gospel songs .....Lyrics like “ Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”..... “Just as I am without one plea, except that thy Blood was Shed for me “ and “ Nothing of myself I bring, only to the Cross I Cling”......these are the main truths that I try to spread , and it helps to know that you aren’t changing the Hearts and minds of those you debate with......but you “ can” expose Newbies to the other side of well- intentioned But False Gospels Of “ Lucky Repentance, etc,” that they aren't getting anywhere else in their weekly Social Clubs where they sit around and pat each other on their backs....feeling “safe” as they digest boring sermons that convince them of their “ morality” and allow them to find contentment in the “ Fool’s Paradise” Of Thinking ,” Yeah sure,Jesus Saves , But once you know” that” it is up to you to clean yourself up and stay cleaned up and be Worthy Of Heaven”....

That is the Great Lie Of most churches today....They never realize we can can’t be “ Worthy” Of Heaven by being “ moral” and by being “ Good Neighbor Sams” ......we cant be “ Worthy” but we can be “ MADE” Worthy by the Shed Blood Of the Lamb Plus NOTHING .Resting in that could be the difference between Heaven and Hell.....

Talking “past” the Legalists , The Religionist and the Tares Found at this site and just “ Using” them as an excuse to promote the True Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing That has the Power to actually CHANGE LIVES —- that seems to work for me .....it’s like shooting fish in a barrel ....I love it....

 

[Cooper]

Yes, you are seemingly speaking of the delusions of men which they embrace because either they never really had or they have lost their love for truth. In the interim they may be walking blindly into that broad way to destruction...

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" II Thess 2:10-11

Like everyone else, deluded people believe they are right. Having the truth alone will not save a person if the person does not also love the truth. Can a person love the truth without fully knowing it? Did anyone love his spouse when they were first married without knowing his spouse very well at all?

How well did we know Jesus when we first met Him and fell in love with Him? Do we know Him better now? Considering then that Jesus is the Truth, how well do we know Him now? Hopefully better that we did at the first... even though according what Paul wrote our vision of Him may not be quite a "face to face" one yet, but rather "as through a glass darkly" vision...

Improving all of the time... yes?

A closer walk with God is every Christian's dream. I am reminded of this hymn:

When we walk with the Lord
in the light of his word,
what a glory he sheds on our way!
While we do his good will,
he abides with us still,
and with all who will trust and obey.

Refrain:
Trust and obey, for there's no other way
to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.

As Jesus said: “I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
(John 8:12 KJV)

May we walk and talk with the Lord ALL the days of our life. Those who walk in darkness get lost on the way.
.

 

[Taken]

As A noun Salvation Is Jesus Life"Spirit" right?
As A verb salvation is deliverence by Jesus's Spirit.
Salvation is a Life

Jesus became the Source of Salvation for all who believe ...

Sure.
Salvation is God Keeping Gods Life in a Soul.
Jesus is the Word that reveals How ^ that "can be" accomplished.
Christ is the Power, the What ^ that accomplishes the Keeping.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[amigo de christo]

Absolutely True.
* They FALL "away" FROM "FAITH."
* They DO NOT FALL "FROM" having received SALVATION", then "Lose their Salvation".
* They LOSE "FAITH."
* They LOSE "receiving their Salvation".

God Bless,
Taken

They lose faith . That is right . This is why paul would warn the church , beware lest their be in you and evil heart
of departing from the faith , but EXHORT one another daily , UNLESS YOU BECOME hardened through the deceitfulness of SIN .
Many who once even proclaimed that JESUS had to be believed in and confessed by the mouth in order to be saved .
They are now embracing the idea and the path that somehow other religoins will be saved , if they just love and have good works .
WE must endure FAITHFUL to the end . And its not legalistic to say that . CAUSE JESUS DID , SO did paul and others .
To REMIND folks that they must continue in Christ , IS NOT LEGALISM . ITS NEEDED .
The SPIRIT would unction us to stay the course and to have others stay the course . THAT is how the SPIRIT works .
People have quit correcting error and sins in favor of a pile of dung fake unity .
This is why churches are leavened . Folks keep hollering GOD is love , WHICH IS TRUE , but they use that
to stop folks from correcting error . THEY say things that paul never said . They are at best weak on any kind of correction .
Thus either they are carnal babes , OR WORSE they truly DO NOT KNOW JESUS .
However by the SPIRIT we must remind folks to stay the course , to not sin , and if one errs to correct them .
This by and large has been abandoned by a mindset which says to anyone who correct error , HEY DONT JUDGE
GOD is LOVE , we all sin . WHAT A BOGUS MINDSET . Cause the last time i checked , LOVE CORRECTS those in error
and would point them to the biblical CHRIST as the pattern on how we ought to walk and behave .
ITS a mess taken . MY FAITH is not in me nor my ability , for by my own self , by my own means , my own power
i am naught but evil . MY FAITH IS IN JESUS and BY HIS POWER we can walk HOLY and we must remind all TO DO THE SAME .
WE MUST get the people back into the bible . AND FAST . MEN are deceiving the flocks big time .
ITS Not a sin to remind the church , HEY YOU MUST CONTINUE IN CHRIST TO THE END . THEY ALL DID IT .
AND DID SO BY THE SPIRIT . FOR IT IS THE SPIRIT , IT IS CHRIST that works through the lambs .
AND HE CAN KEEP US FROM FALLING . ALL his reminders , all the apostels reminders , ALL of it is for our own good .
ITS all SPIRITUALLY INSPIRED . THUS WE BETTER TAKE HEED LEST WE FALL .

 

[amigo de christo]

Absolutely True.
* They FALL "away" FROM "FAITH."
* They DO NOT FALL "FROM" having received SALVATION", then "Lose their Salvation".
* They LOSE "FAITH."
* They LOSE "receiving their Salvation".

God Bless,
Taken

Many can start out with a good love and a good faith .
Then fall away unto satan . They lose the FAITH they had at the beginning , at first .
Your right , THEY LOSE FAITH .
Check out what paul tells the church of ephesus , or timothy who was at ephesus .
But when they begin to wax wanton Against Christ they will marry
having damnation because they have cast off the faith they had AT FIRST .
That means they once HAD GOOD FAITH . But have turned aside unto satan .
Check out what CHRIST tells that same church of ephesus .
He tells it how many good works it has , how it has tested them false apostels and found them liars .
YET , HE has a serious problem with it . HE says YOU HAVE LEFT YOUR FIRST LOVE . THE LOVE YOU HAD AT FIRST .
HE then says RETURN TO THAT LOVE or i will put your candel out . And proverbs says , the candel of the wicked shall be PUT OUT .
SOME lie and try and say , oh but they never had good faith or good love . REALLY.
IF their LOVE was not right at the beginning , WHY WOULD GOD HIMSELF SAY TO RETURN TO WHAT THEY ONCE HAD .
WE are being lied too by men . TAKEN its getting bad now . WE must learn JESUS and all sound doctrine for ourselves .
For ourselves . AND GOD IS WITH the lambs . HE will give you , me , or anyone who is HIS
the understanding of what they need to know . You are loved my friend . LET us get the original pattern deeply engrained
in our minds and our hearts . LET us , by the SPIRIT , be stirring one another up with ALL the reminders of JESUS
all the reminders of the apostels . STAY DUG In the bible . AND by grace indeed we shall grow wise unto salvation through faith in Christ .
THERE are way too many men , women and you name it ,that are breaking down the church . THEY are trapping many by
cunning deciet . LET us learn for ourselves EVERYTHING JESUS ever taught in that bible and the apostels and all sound doctrine .
WE will grow . The SPIRIT is with the lambs . And let us stir one another up by PURE way of remembrance of the
original faith and all that it entails . My plea is to all , out of the depths of my heart i do weep , for the Love of GOD
compels me to do all to help those i do love . We must stir ourselves up and do so quickly.
The best way to be stirred up , is by reading the pure and holy words of our Lord and His apostels . SO let us do just that .
And be praying for one another . And looking out for one another .

 

[Nancy]

Many can start out with a good love and a good faith .
Then fall away unto satan . They lose the FAITH they had at the beginning , at first .
Your right , THEY LOSE FAITH .
Check out what paul tells the church of ephesus , or timothy who was at ephesus .
But when they begin to wax wanton Against Christ they will marry
having damnation because they have cast off the faith they had AT FIRST .
That means they once HAD GOOD FAITH . But have turned aside unto satan .
Check out what CHRIST tells that same church of ephesus .
He tells it how many good works it has , how it has tested them false apostels and found them liars .
YET , HE has a serious problem with it . HE says YOU HAVE LEFT YOUR FIRST LOVE . THE LOVE YOU HAD AT FIRST .
HE then says RETURN TO THAT LOVE or i will put your candel out . And proverbs says , the candel of the wicked shall be PUT OUT .
SOME lie and try and say , oh but they never had good faith or good love . REALLY.
IF their LOVE was not right at the beginning , WHY WOULD GOD HIMSELF SAY TO RETURN TO WHAT THEY ONCE HAD .
WE are being lied too by men . TAKEN its getting bad now . WE must learn JESUS and all sound doctrine for ourselves .
For ourselves . AND GOD IS WITH the lambs . HE will give you , me , or anyone who is HIS
the understanding of what they need to know . You are loved my friend . LET us get the original pattern deeply engrained
in our minds and our hearts . LET us , by the SPIRIT , be stirring one another up with ALL the reminders of JESUS
all the reminders of the apostels . STAY DUG In the bible . AND by grace indeed we shall grow wise unto salvation through faith in Christ .
THERE are way too many men , women and you name it ,that are breaking down the church . THEY are trapping many by
cunning deciet . LET us learn for ourselves EVERYTHING JESUS ever taught in that bible and the apostels and all sound doctrine .
WE will grow . The SPIRIT is with the lambs . And let us stir one another up by PURE way of remembrance of the
original faith and all that it entails . My plea is to all , out of the depths of my heart i do weep , for the Love of GOD
compels me to do all to help those i do love . We must stir ourselves up and do so quickly.
The best way to be stirred up , is by reading the pure and holy words of our Lord and His apostels . SO let us do just that .
And be praying for one another . And looking out for one another .

Amen brother, the Church is far removed from what it should be. We MUST be Bereans! STAY with our "First Love".
Praying for the brethren to not get weary in well doing and to NOT be deceived by this so called "unity".
The Gospel is really simple, men skew it.

 

[Taken]

They lose faith . That is right . This is why paul would warn the church , beware lest their be in you and evil heart
of departing from the faith , but EXHORT one another daily , UNLESS YOU BECOME hardened through the deceitfulness of SIN .
Many who once even proclaimed that JESUS had to be believed in and confessed by the mouth in order to be saved .
They are now embracing the idea and the path that somehow other religoins will be saved , if they just love and have good works .
WE must endure FAITHFUL to the end . And its not legalistic to say that . CAUSE JESUS DID , SO did paul and others .
To REMIND folks that they must continue in Christ , IS NOT LEGALISM . ITS NEEDED .
The SPIRIT would unction us to stay the course and to have others stay the course . THAT is how the SPIRIT works .
People have quit correcting error and sins in favor of a pile of dung fake unity .
This is why churches are leavened . Folks keep hollering GOD is love , WHICH IS TRUE , but they use that
to stop folks from correcting error . THEY say things that paul never said . They are at best weak on any kind of correction .
Thus either they are carnal babes , OR WORSE they truly DO NOT KNOW JESUS .
However by the SPIRIT we must remind folks to stay the course , to not sin , and if one errs to correct them .
This by and large has been abandoned by a mindset which says to anyone who correct error , HEY DONT JUDGE
GOD is LOVE , we all sin . WHAT A BOGUS MINDSET . Cause the last time i checked , LOVE CORRECTS those in error
and would point them to the biblical CHRIST as the pattern on how we ought to walk and behave .
ITS a mess taken . MY FAITH is not in me nor my ability , for by my own self , by my own means , my own power
i am naught but evil . MY FAITH IS IN JESUS and BY HIS POWER we can walk HOLY and we must remind all TO DO THE SAME .
WE MUST get the people back into the bible . AND FAST . MEN are deceiving the flocks big time .
ITS Not a sin to remind the church , HEY YOU MUST CONTINUE IN CHRIST TO THE END . THEY ALL DID IT .
AND DID SO BY THE SPIRIT . FOR IT IS THE SPIRIT , IT IS CHRIST that works through the lambs .
AND HE CAN KEEP US FROM FALLING . ALL his reminders , all the apostels reminders , ALL of it is for our own good .
ITS all SPIRITUALLY INSPIRED . THUS WE BETTER TAKE HEED LEST WE FALL .

Warning is TO those WHO outright reject or are believing, but not yet Saved.

The Warning to NOT FALL AWAY, does not apply to the Saved. The Sav-ED, can not fall away. A sav-ED person is already Forgiven and Justified.

Luke 15:
[7] I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons , which need no repentance.

A Sav-ED person has Work they can DO to glorify God... KEEP SPEAKING HIS WORD.
(The very same work Jesus sent His faithful disciples to do.)

God Bless,
Taken

 

[marks]

Amen brother, the Church is far removed from what it should be.

What if it's not?

What if we are a pleasing church before God, surrounded by a cesspool of fraudulent Christians? Could that be possible?

Much love!

 

[Taken]

Many can start out with a good love and a good faith .
Then fall away unto satan . They lose the FAITH they had at the beginning , at first .
Your right , THEY LOSE FAITH .
Check out what paul tells the church of ephesus , or timothy who was at ephesus .
But when they begin to wax wanton Against Christ they will marry
having damnation because they have cast off the faith they had AT FIRST .
That means they once HAD GOOD FAITH . But have turned aside unto satan .
Check out what CHRIST tells that same church of ephesus .
He tells it how many good works it has , how it has tested them false apostels and found them liars .
YET , HE has a serious problem with it . HE says YOU HAVE LEFT YOUR FIRST LOVE . THE LOVE YOU HAD AT FIRST .
HE then says RETURN TO THAT LOVE or i will put your candel out . And proverbs says , the candel of the wicked shall be PUT OUT .
SOME lie and try and say , oh but they never had good faith or good love . REALLY.
IF their LOVE was not right at the beginning , WHY WOULD GOD HIMSELF SAY TO RETURN TO WHAT THEY ONCE HAD .
WE are being lied too by men . TAKEN its getting bad now . WE must learn JESUS and all sound doctrine for ourselves .
For ourselves . AND GOD IS WITH the lambs . HE will give you , me , or anyone who is HIS
the understanding of what they need to know . You are loved my friend . LET us get the original pattern deeply engrained
in our minds and our hearts . LET us , by the SPIRIT , be stirring one another up with ALL the reminders of JESUS
all the reminders of the apostels . STAY DUG In the bible . AND by grace indeed we shall grow wise unto salvation through faith in Christ .
THERE are way too many men , women and you name it ,that are breaking down the church . THEY are trapping many by
cunning deciet . LET us learn for ourselves EVERYTHING JESUS ever taught in that bible and the apostels and all sound doctrine .
WE will grow . The SPIRIT is with the lambs . And let us stir one another up by PURE way of remembrance of the
original faith and all that it entails . My plea is to all , out of the depths of my heart i do weep , for the Love of GOD
compels me to do all to help those i do love . We must stir ourselves up and do so quickly.
The best way to be stirred up , is by reading the pure and holy words of our Lord and His apostels . SO let us do just that .
And be praying for one another . And looking out for one another .

We all begin in ignorance of the Lord God.
Hearing...is the beginning for man to Learn.
Hearing...prompts a Gift of Faith from God.

Little Hearing...Little Faith.
Continue Hearing....Continue receiving Faith.

Continue receiving Faith...
Believe in what a man hears Begins & Increases.

^^ * This is the man, WHO is Believing, BUT NOT YET SAVED.
* This is the man, who can easily get busy, put off Hearing, (and receiving Faith), easily become "influenced" BY men "OF" the world.
* He can easily, Stop BELIEVING, which inturn, He STOPS receiving FAITH (from God).
* He is called having Fallen from FAITH.

***RETURN*** to Hearing, to receiving Faith, to Believing....that one MIGHT THEN, commit and become Converted (ie Saved and Born Again).

Glory to God,
Taken