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[Behold]

At ones rebirth, free will is restored to that individual,

There is no verse in a BIBLE that says that "free will was lost", and later "restored".

Most of the "hyper Calvinist'" ive dealt with, teach that Free Will isn't .

Once again, vapid accusations without a scintilla of any evidence other than your ex-cathedra proclamations. FAIL!

You define yourself as Calvin's Theology.
So, that is not my "accusation", that is your Mind.

BYW I am a 5 pointer, not four pointer.

Im a Christian.

God makes : Christians.

Calvin makes : People like you who need to tell us all, that you are a CALVINIST.

Calvin is so proud of you, while God isn't.

 

[Behold]

all are born lost and slavces to sin and have no will to choose God as per Romans and Corinthians and John.

There isn't a verse in a Bible says that a person has no free will. And there isn't a verse in a Bible says that a sinner can't of their own free choice, choose Christ as their Savior.

The verse says..>"All that believe in Jesus, shall be saved".....>It does not day......"Calvin said that if God chooses you to believe, then you will".

Listen,

1 John 4:14, says that.... "God sent Jesus to save the World".

Calvin lied about that verse and says..>"no, God sent Jesus to save the elect, pre-destined".

Paul said.."God was in Christ in the world, not counting people's sins again them".. 2 Corinthians 5:19

Calvin lied and said..>"Its only the ELECT's SIN that Jesus was sent to forgive"....

(Calvin is a devil, and his theology is a cancer on the Body of Christ.)

Then, John Said... John 3:16...>"For God so loved the WORLD, that He Gave His only Begotten Son Jesus, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVES"...


See that "WHOSOEVER"?.....that means ALL who will believe.....

And that is "God sent Jesus to save the WORLD"...


Calvin lies and says.....>"NO, not the WORLD.. not ALL.. .not WHOSOEVER will Believe....but only the ELECT who are chosen (caused) to believe".

See Calvin's lie? This is TULIP .

Its the devil's lie.
Not a good idea to believe it and its worse for you, when you teach this lie.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

There is no verse in a BIBLE that says that "free will was lost", and later "restored".

Most of the "hyper Calvinist'" ive dealt with, teach that Free Will isn't .

There is no verse that says unsaved man has free will. but there is a verse that says unsaved man is a slave to sin, cannot do the law of God, cannot please God and thinks the things of God are foolish. Doesn't sound like free will to me.

You define yourself as Calvin's Theology.
So, that is not my "accusation", that is your Mind.

Wrong again oh prevaricating one. I said I accept the biblical foundations of the five points of Calvin, not his whole theology which I cannot speak to.

Im a Christian.

God makes : Christians.

Calvin makes : People like you who need to tell us all, that you are a CALVINIST.

Calvin is so proud of you, while God isn't.

Do you need double doors to fit your swelled ego out? When did you become the decider of who pleases god or not. YOu pretend
that one who accepts common names of identification with certain points of theology are slaves to that, Shame on you for your deception.

I am a follower of Jesus and you know what it means when someone says they are a five pointer or three pointer or pre trib or post trib or amillenial etc. You just are more interested in slandering believers than having a genuine discussion where you actually use integrity and defend your positions with Scripture.

1 John 4:14, says that.... "God sent Jesus to save the World".

Calvin lied about that verse and says..>"no, God sent Jesus to save the elect, pre-destined".

Paul said.."God was in Christ in the world, not counting people's sins again them".. 2 Corinthians 5:19

Calvin lied and said..>"Its only the ELECT's SIN that Jesus was sent to forgive"....

So you are a universalist then? If God no longer imputes sin to the world then all are saved. but if you accepted the whole counsel of God instead of your myopic view, you would know that was sent to save.

John 3:18

King James Version

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18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

God says you are wrong!

See that "WHOSOEVER"?.....that means ALL who will believe.....

And that is "God sent Jesus to save the WORLD"...


Calvin lies and says.....>"NO, not the WORLD.. not ALL.. .not WHOSOEVER will Believe....but only the ELECT who are chosen (caused) to believe".

See Calvin's lie? This is TULIP .

Its the devil's lie.
Not a good idea to believe it and its worse for you, when you teach this lie.

Yes all who berlieve will be saved. That is a simple statement of fact and not a statement of free will.

but Gods Word also says this:

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

There isn't a verse in a Bible says that a person has no free will. And there isn't a verse in a Bible says that a sinner can't of their own free choice, choose Christ as their Savior.

The verse says..>"All that believe in Jesus, shall be saved".....>It does not day......"Calvin said that if God chooses you to believe, then you will".

John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:37
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

See you can't come to Jesus unless the father gave you to Jesus and drew you to HIm.

Also those folks:

Ephesians 1:4
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

I was chosen to be in HIm before God even created the world! I was going to be saved in time because God chose me! I do not deserve it but Grace gave it.

Romans 8:8

King James Version

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8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

You need to read Gods word more.

 

[Behold]

There is no verse that says unsaved man has free will.

I posted 2 verses from the OT, .. one by Jeremiah and one by EZRA (neither are born again)....

They both stated that they have FREE WILL., and so do you.

See, if you didn't have free will, then when you sinned, you could blame God.

HITLER could say..>"well God, im not really a Jew Hating Sadistic Psychopath"....Im chosen by YOU.... to burn 6 million Jews

HAMAS could say...>"THe Father of Christ, pre-chose us to cut up Jewish Babies and film it on our I-phones"...

Satan could say....>"well, the reason Jesus said that im a murderer from the beginning and the Father of Lies is because God predestined me to be so"....

- Good luck with all that. @Ronald Nolette

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I posted 2 verses from the OT, .. one by Jeremiah and one by EZRA (neither are born again)....

They both stated that they have FREE WILL., and so do you.

See, if you didn't have free will, then when you sinned, you could blame God.

HITLER could say..>"well God, im not really a Jew Hating Sadistic Psychopath"....Im chosen by YOU.... to burn 6 million Jews

HAMAS could say...>"THe Father of Christ, pre-chose us to cut up Jewish Babies and film it on our I-phones"...

Satan could say....>"well, the reason Jesus said that im a murderer from the beginning and the Father of Lies is because God predestined me to be so"....

- Good luck with all that. @Ronald Nolette

They were saved individuals in their dispensation. So they had free will because of being made spiritually alive again. These were not unsaved people. But nice try.

YOur examples are unsaved. People can say anything, but if it doesn't match Scripture, it is empty words. You know what empty words are-- all your accusations to date are empty words.

 

[Behold]

They were saved individuals in their dispensation.

Try to see it like this..

IN THE OT, you have FREE WILL, as i showed you the verses.

If you want to play a game of.....trying to remix that as Calvinism, then that would be what you would have to do.
How can you not?
Its what you are... its what you believe.

CALVIN makes CALVINISTS..

So they had free will because of being made spiritually alive again. These were not unsaved people. But nice try.

No one is born again in the OT.

But those who were made righteous, like Abraham, waited on Jesus to come to "Abrahams Bosom"

Where is that?

That is "PARADISE" as Jesus told the Thief....."today you will be with me in Paradise"......

So, those OT Saints, were THERE.........because they were not born again, at that time.

YOur examples are unsaved.

God requires that Unbelievers give God their Faith in Christ.

He does not require that He does it for them, so that they can.

Its "All who believe"......not "all who are chosen to believe".

See, you, like all Hyper Calvinists, have to make the verse teach.."elect" and Pre-destined" and "chosen" when the verses actually dont.

And the reason you do that, is because you have a CALVIN filer in your mind, and it causes you to SEE CALVIN'S Teaching, when your read certain verses.

And the reason that you feel the URGE to keep preaching Hyper-Calvinism, is because you are infected with it, in your mind.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Try to see it like this..

IN THE OT, you have FREE WILL, as i showed you the verses.

If you want to play a game of.....trying to remix that as Calvinism, then that would be what you would have to do.
How can you not?
Its what you are... its what you believe.

CALVIN makes CALVINISTS..

Once again see it as it is:

Saved people as you showed in the OT have free will given to them. Unsaved people do not have free will, for they cannot choose God as the verses I cited showed you.

I posted 2 verses from the OT, .. one by Jeremiah and one by EZRA (neither are born again)....

They both stated that they have FREE WILL., and so do you.

See, if you didn't have free will, then when you sinned, you could blame God.

Once again only teh saved have free will to choose to sin or not sin. The unsaved can only sin for they are dead to God.

No one is born again in the OT.

But those who were made righteous, like Abraham, waited on Jesus to come to "Abrahams Bosom"

Where is that?

That is "PARADISE" as Jesus told the Thief....."today you will be with me in Paradise"......

So, those OT Saints, were THERE.........because they were not born again, at that time.

Well they were born from above- Jesus was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. They may not have been children of God as NT believers are, but they were saved and had free will given to them.

And yes because Jesus had not ac tually physically shed HIs blood, they went to Abrahams bosom. Once Jesus ascended, He took the OT saints and Paradise to heaven with Him. As shown in Ephesians.

See, you, like all Hyper Calvinists, have to make the verse teach.."elect" and Pre-destined" and "chosen" when the verses actually dont.

And the reason you do that, is because you have a CALVIN filer in your mind, and it causes you to SEE CALVIN'S Teaching, when your read certain verses.

And the reason that you feel the URGE to keep preaching Hyper-Calvinism, is because you are infected with it, in your mind

Do you enjoy being a liar? I am nowhere near a hyper calvinist! Belieivng that the five points are biblical does not make one a hyper anything.

It appears instead of discussing back and forth with Scripture (which you have shown yourself incapapble of), you resort to increase your bearing false witness against brethren.

 

[Behold]

Once again see it as it is:

Saved people as you showed in the OT have free will given to them. Unsaved people do not have free will, for they cannot choose God as the verses I cited showed you.

You showed me Hyper Calvinism's viewpoint.

That is rejected by God.

God is not a Calvinist. God is not the author of TULIP..

Once again only teh saved have free will to choose to sin or not sin.

The Born again, is not your body or your mind.

You're not able to understand this.

The unsaved can only sin for they are dead to God.

They are spiritually separated from God, however, the Spirit of God is able to reveal Jesus to all the unbelievers, so that they can REPENT from their unbelief, and CHOOSE to trust in Christ by Their Faith.

= "ALL that (Who) will will believe"...

That's their Choice.

See, Just as Adam had the CHOICE to not partake of the forbidden fruit.......each person alive right now, is given the CHOICE to Believe in Jesus, or Not.

The Choice is not God's..
The OFFER of Jesus as Savior, as Sin Bearer, is What God has done, is the OFFER.

This is The Cross of Christ. Its an OFFER of Redemption, to "ALL who will believe". = CHOICE.

TULIP denies this, and that is the demonic core of What Started with Calvin's teaching, and just continued to become more demonic.

And yes because Jesus had not ac tually physically shed HIs blood,

Yes.
Until Jesus shed HIS blood, there is no NEW Covenant, no BLOOD Atonement that is ETERNAL.

Do you enjoy being a liar?

Ive not lied.
You told us you are all about the "Points".
You define yourself as Calvin's Tool.

God is not a Calvinist.
God is not "point #1-#5" On the TULIP Scale.

All this "theology" , that you believe..... is MAN MADE., not God made.

It appears instead of discussing back and forth with Scripture (which you have shown yourself incapapble of), you resort to increase your bearing false witness against brethren.

TULIP< does not allow for all family members to be "chosen".

Continue to think about that, @Ronald Nolette .... as if it lands on you correctly, you'll be able to understand just how DEMONIC is this theology that has owned you for a very long time.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Ive not lied.
You told us you are all about the "Points".
You define yourself as Calvin's Tool.

Yes you have lied, I have not defined my self as anything but belieivng the five points are biblical.

Once again all you have done is fill a page with your verbal methane! No biblical refutation.

It seems your arrogance matches popery in that you want us to accept your bloviations as ex-cathedra pontifications! Sorry but you are not my pope or head. I await you suing gods word instead of you ropinion.

 

[Behold]

Yes you have lied, I have not defined my self as anything but belieivng the five points are biblical.

If a duck Quacks and has duck feathers, then its a duck, even if it denies it and pretends to be a Cow that Quacks.

You have chased me around on This Forum for many months, trying to get me to define YOUR Cult belief system.
Again and again telling me, "you dont understand" = YOUR Belief system, that is TULIP.
And yet you now say that you are "not that one"?

Well, someone is a LIAR, and i vote : its YOU @Ronald Nolette

 

[Pearl]

Yes you have lied, I have not defined my self as anything but belieivng the five points are biblical.

Once again all you have done is fill a page with your verbal methane! No biblical refutation.

It seems your arrogance matches popery in that you want us to accept your bloviations as ex-cathedra pontifications! Sorry but you are not my pope or head. I await you suing gods word instead of you ropinion.

@Behold Is one of the people on this site who understands the full truth of the gospel. So many other people seem to have bent it a little to fit their beliefs.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

@Behold Is one of the people on this site who understands the full truth of the gospel. So many other people seem to have bent it a little to fit their beliefs.

Well if that floats your boat....Okay. But He lies through his teeth about people.

Lots of things He says I agree with. but when he refuses to defend positions of his and then lie about what other people believe, He may know alot about the gospel, but little about living it.

 

[Pearl]

Well if that floats your boat....Okay. But He lies through his teeth about people.

Lots of things He says I agree with. but when he refuses to defend positions of his and then lie about what other people believe, He may know alot about the gospel, but little about living it.

Perhaps, but I don't get into the debates, I just read the opening posts.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Perhaps, but I don't get into the debates, I just read the opening posts.

If you only read the opening posts, how do you know he is preeminent biblical scholar here then????

 

[Behold]

Well if that floats your boat....Okay. But He lies through his teeth about people.

You now deny you are a Calvinist, and believe in at least 4 or 5 points of TULIP?, as you explained to all of us here?

Little fella, its not a "lie" to quote you, and its not a lie to point out again what you've said about yourself.

You have tried , endlessly, to get me to teach TULIP, that YOU teach.

You have stated that you believe that 4 of the "points" are true.

So, the reason you are here again, not Quoting me, but insinuating that im not being honest....yet you dont quote me, is because you are not honest.
That's a fact.

Lots of things He says I agree with. but when he refuses to defend positions

I have THREADS THAT DEAL with Calvinism and Tulip.

2 or 3 of them i posted in the last few weeks.

ONE of them on Calvinism, was "LOCKED"...

So, you should run along, and maybe have some tea, and reconsider your behavior.

I know you confess sin as you have told us that you sin and confess, so, maybe now is a good time to do that again @Ronald Nolette.

If that does not solve your "issue" then Marymog has a Priest you can discuss it with.. if that makes you feel better.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

If a duck Quacks and has duck feathers, then its a duck, even if it denies it and pretends to be a Cow that Quacks.

You have chased me around on This Forum for many months, trying to get me to define YOUR Cult belief system.
Again and again telling me, "you dont understand" = YOUR Belief system, that is TULIP.
And yet you now say that you are "not that one"?

Well, someone is a LIAR, and i vote : its YOU @Ronald Nolette

Well your vote based on yo0ur lies is worthless.

Still waiting for you to show from Scripture why T.U.L.I.P. is demonic.

YOu have failed to do so in 5-6 threads now choosing the coward way out and just making vapid accusations.

I don't think I ever accused you of not understanding tulip, I do accuse you of lying about me and refusing to show why tulip is biblically wrong. I am more convinced you cannot, and that is why you refuse.

You could have made this simple when you first said tulip is demonic and here is what the bible says is why. You refuse so I will continue to hound you and call you task for acting like a heathen in this.

 

[Behold]

Well your vote based on yo0ur lies is worthless.

You now deny you are a Calvinist, and believe in at least 4 or 5 points of TULIP?, as you explained to all of us here?

Little fella, its not a "lie" to quote you, and its not a lie to point out again what you've said about yourself.

You have tried , endlessly, to get me to teach TULIP, that YOU teach.

You have stated that you believe that 4 of the "points" are true.

So, the reason you are here again, not Quoting me, but insinuating that im not being honest....yet you dont quote me, is because you are not honest.
That's a fact.

Lots of things He says I agree with. but when he refuses to defend positions

I have THREADS THAT DEAL with Calvinism and Tulip.

2 or 3 of them i posted in the last few weeks.

ONE of them on Calvinism, was "LOCKED"...

So, you should run along, and maybe have some tea, and reconsider your behavior.

I know you confess sin as you have told us that you sin and confess, so, maybe now is a good time to do that again @Ronald Nolette.

If that does not solve your "issue" then Marymog has a Priest you can discuss it with.. if that makes you feel better.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You now deny you are a Calvinist, and believe in at least 4 or 5 points of TULIP?, as you explained to all of us here?

Little fella, its not a "lie" to quote you, and its not a lie to point out again what you've said about yourself.

You have tried , endlessly, to get me to teach TULIP, that YOU teach.

You have stated that you believe that 4 of the "points" are true.

So, the reason you are here again, not Quoting me, but insinuating that im not being honest....yet you dont quote me, is because you are not honest.
That's a fact.

No I am not a Calvinnist and I believe in all 5 points of tulip as being biblical. I have even given verses to show each to be biblically true! YOu in your denials of it have failed to provide scripture.

And little fella you do lie about me regularly.

Once again you lie! I am not trying to get you to teach TULIUP- that just shows you have jaded reading skills. I have tired to get you to biblically show why they are demonic as you accuse them to be. See if you can understand this last sentence so you will not lie again.

I have repeatedly said explicitly that I believe all 5 points are true. Another lie or just immature reading skills.

I don't need to quote you. YO uhave called me unsaved, you call me a Calvinist, obsessed with Calvinism and these are all lies.

All I have asked and demanded of you is for to to back up your accusation with SCripture that the five points of Calvinism(TULIP) are demonically inspired and not biblically based. Why you are incapable of that is beyond me.

 

[Behold]

No I am not a Calvinnist and I believe in all 5 points of tulip as being biblical.\

You have some issues.

Notice that you just wrote that you are "not a Calvinist..

Then you postes..

All I have asked and demanded of you is for to to back up your accusation with SCripture that the five points of Calvinism(TULIP)

So, you stated you are not A Calvinist, then posted that the 5 Points you believe are Calvinism.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You have some issues.

Notice that you just wrote that you are "not a Calvinist..

Then you postes..



So, you stated you are not A Calvinist, then posted that the 5 Points you believe are Calvinism.

Are you that devoid of simple understanind ing.

Calvinism is an entire theological system, like you have, that is based on calvins understanding of Scripture.

The five points are just a very small part of what is known as Calvinism. I guess it could be likened unto 5 pages of a 1000 page book! Unserstand? Or are you just intentionally doing this out of some jaded lust to accuse brethren of Jesus.