Mental Disorder of LGBT: Analysis - Spiritual, Political and Scientific
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TinMan
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I would find it easier to believe that he was emotionally manipulated to pretend he wasn't gay. It's basic "reparative therapy"
BarneyFife
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Of course, you would.
And I suppose this could quite readily fall under:
- "Prove it!"
Dev, this might interest you. :) @dev553344
Thing is, he's my son and he's a PTSD shut-in who lives in my small, single-family home. We're all extraordinarily close. He's a fine young man.
We taught our children to love Jesus and His law, so when he told us he thought he might be gay, we knew immediately that the best thing we could do was be supportive, give him space, pray, and wait. We were determined to maintain our policy of standards in the macro and compassion in the micro (before we even knew that way of stating the policy).
He had already begun to express leftist political sentiments and there was absolutely no pressure from us to reform. And he never gets out of the house except for doctor's appointments, so the possibility of him being influenced to seek basic "reparative therapy" seems unlikely, at best.
When he told the other young man that he thought he might not be gay, he was immediately ghosted.
What started the whole thing was that he was so moved by the man's (likely quite legitimate) testimony of having formerly been abused and discriminated against that he experienced deep compassion, unlike anything he ever had before. This, he later realized (without any influence from us) he had mistaken for romantic love. He still cares about the other young man, so he keeps tabs on him the best he can. The man was shortly after arrested for possession of child pornography but it seems he might have been implicated simply by sharing a laptop with the actual perpetrator.
It should be interesting to see how you're going to puke all over this testimony. Perhaps you could surmise that my wife got him some basic "reparative therapy" behind my back or something, although him being as stubborn as the day is long would probably preclude such a theory. Anyway, you've already outed yourself as one who rejoices in iniquity and is heartbroken while angels rejoice over one sinner who repents (Luke 15:7).
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 12:11 - King James Version
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
BarneyFife
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Not to mention the myriads of emerging lawsuits over gender-crossing therapies and surgeries, which you'll doubtless deny are valid, relevant, or accurately reported.
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BarneyFife
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This is interesting. I do think it's quite possible that we're being duped. I heard just yesterday, quite unsurprisingly, that there is actually training available to atheists who wish to infiltrate Christian forums. A conspiracy theory is only a theory until reasonable evidence is found for its validity, I guess. I'm taking it easy, per your advice, so I'm deferring my investigation into the matter.
And, in the interest of taking it easy...
Okay, I'll bite:
NO
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At least it had a happy ending?Of course, you would.
And I suppose this could quite readily fall under:
- "Prove it!"
Dev, this might interest you. :) @dev553344
Thing is, he's my son and he's a PTSD shut-in who lives in my small, single-family home. We're all extraordinarily close. He's a fine young man.
We taught our children to love Jesus and His law, so when he told us he thought he might be gay, we knew immediately that the best thing we could do was be supportive, give him space, pray, and wait. We were determined to maintain our policy of standards in the macro and compassion in the micro (before we even knew that way of stating the policy).
He had already begun to express leftist political sentiments and there was absolutely no pressure from us to reform. And he never gets out of the house except for doctor's appointments, so the possibility of him being influenced to seek basic "reparative therapy" seems unlikely, at best.
When he told the other young man that he thought he might not be gay, he was immediately ghosted.
What started the whole thing was that he was so moved by the man's (likely quite legitimate) testimony of having formerly been abused and discriminated against that he experienced deep compassion, unlike anything he ever had before. This, he later realized (without any influence from us) he had mistaken for romantic love. He still cares about the other young man, so he keeps tabs on him the best he can. The man was shortly after arrested for possession of child pornography but it seems he might have been implicated simply by sharing a laptop with the actual perpetrator.
It should be interesting to see how you're going to puke all over this testimony. Perhaps you could surmise that my wife got him some basic "reparative therapy" behind my back or something, although him being as stubborn as the day is long would probably preclude such a theory. Anyway, you've already outed yourself as one who rejoices in iniquity and is heartbroken while angels rejoice over one sinner who repents (Luke 15:7).
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 12:11 - King James Version
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.www.biblegateway.com
BarneyFife
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The scars have been troublesome for him at times, but I'd like to think so, yes. :)
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Did you ever hear that the term ‘conspiracy theory’ came from the CIA in the 1950’s to dismiss those who observed their mischievous actions in foreign countries?
It really is slander, a type of Appeal to Ad Homenim - AS IF the object of discussion is beyond disrepute, dismissing all criticism by this throw away term.
That’s racist.
That’s sexist.
That’s bigotry.
That’s a conspiracy theory.
All the same fallacy.
Neither do I.
Honestly, I am bewildered at how such things - void of actual Scriptural teaching - in Christianity generate such passion.
BarneyFife
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BTW, growing up Catholic it was explained why our society has 2 day weekends. Saturday, to keep the Sabbath holy. Sunday, to celebrate the Lord’s Day.
Odd for me to read so much divisiveness about this on our forum.
TinMan
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It has been documented extensively. There are even therapists beginning to specialize in helping men and women who have experienced such things.
Thinking logically about it, how would you convince someone into believing something they are not. the sort answer is you can't, but if you abuse someone bad enough over a period of time they will start saying anything you want in order to get you to stop.
I don't see how but it seems to be your way of dismissing me.
For someone with no connection or reparative therapy or ex-gay ministries you sure know all their catch phrases.Dev, this might interest you. :) @dev553344
Thing is, he's my son and he's a PTSD shut-in who lives in my small, single-family home. We're all extraordinarily close. He's a fine young man.
We taught our children to love Jesus and His law, so when he told us he thought he might be gay, we knew immediately that the best thing we could do was be supportive, give him space, pray, and wait. We were determined to maintain our policy of standards in the macro and compassion in the micro (before we even knew that way of stating the policy).
He had already begun to express leftist political sentiments and there was absolutely no pressure from us to reform. And he never gets out of the house except for doctor's appointments, so the possibility of him being influenced to seek basic "reparative therapy" seems unlikely, at best.
When he told the other young man that he thought he might not be gay, he was immediately ghosted.
What started the whole thing was that he was so moved by the man's (likely quite legitimate) testimony of having formerly been abused and discriminated against that he experienced deep compassion, unlike anything he ever had before. This, he later realized (without any influence from us) he had mistaken for romantic love. He still cares about the other young man, so he keeps tabs on him the best he can. The man was shortly after arrested for possession of child pornography but it seems he might have been implicated simply by sharing a laptop with the actual perpetrator.
It should be interesting to see how you're going to puke all over this testimony. Perhaps you could surmise that my wife got him some basic "reparative therapy" behind my back or something, although him being as stubborn as the day is long would probably preclude such a theory. Anyway, you've already outed yourself as one who rejoices in iniquity and is heartbroken while angels rejoice over one sinner who repents (Luke 15:7).
Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 12:11 - King James Version
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
TinMan
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I'd ask you to expand on this myriad of lawsuits but I believe your only response would be to dismss me with a "prove it"
TinMan
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I can only guess that you know what you do is anything but love but jut don't care to admit it.
it's called Socratic maieutics or Socratic questioning. look it up
TinMan
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BarneyFife
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It hasn't been documented with my son but, nice puking on your part.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I am capable of awareness without logistical ties to right-wing ideological hacks.
Some of us aren't marionettes, believe it or not.
BarneyFife
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Mindlessly going with the masses. When the majority is going one way, that’s a sure sign that is usually the wrong way.
It is love. You just have your poles reversed.
You cannot answer a question with a question. That you rely on a website to deny basic logic and psychology speaks volumes. Answering a Question With a Question - Psychological reasons for doing so?
It is an inertial aggressive behavior, even if it appears to have no obvious intention to manipulate.
Naturally when you answer a question with a question who asked a question remains in a passive-aggressive situation, and that’s not right. A ‘sincere’ question should be able to get the sincere answer it deserves.
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