Mask Control: Prove COVID-19 exists...I dare you!

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LiveByFaith

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If I have 1,000 candy bars and I know one of them will kill someone, is it ethical to sell them?
Is it ethical to advertise them as safe?
Is it ethical to be indemnified from any liability?

You tell me. We routinely sell candy bars with peanuts in them. We know for certain that some percentage of them will kill someone with a peanut allergy, and we still sell them. Is that ethical?

What if tomorrow some company invents a new drug that will 100% cure every type of cancer. It will also kill some small number of people who take it. Do we approve the drug for usage?

What if said company was 75% finished creating this miracle cancer drug and tells the government that it knows it will kill a certain number of people and they want indemnity from these deaths or they won't finish making the drug. Do we allow this? I guarantee you no pharmaceutical will ever create a drug they think they will lose money on.

I honestly don't know the answers to these questions, but I lean towards yes on all counts. Nothing is ever black and white and all three of these questions have areas of grey. What about you?
 

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You tell me. We routinely sell candy bars with peanuts in them. We know for certain that some percentage of them will kill someone with a peanut allergy, and we still sell them. Is that ethical?

Another silly comparison...
Nuts are featured in the ingredients...
We can't even look at the ingredients of the jab...
 
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Your comparisons are just silly...

No one is claiming they are safe
No one is forcing those things on the people

I was actually being quite serious.

Who is claiming the COVID vaccine is 100% safe? We all know it has potential side effects. Those side effects are documented by the medical community and the government. Those side effects are reported on by the news agencies. I'm not trying to convince you for one second that the COVID vaccine has no side effects.

However, the COVID vaccine has fewer serious side effects than things you probably use routinely, like over the counter and prescription drugs. Vaccines, as a general category, have fewer serious side effects than any other category of drugs. Vaccines, as a general category, are among the safest drugs you can take.
 

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Another silly comparison...
Nuts are featured in the ingredients...
We can't even look at the ingredients of the jab...

What??? The ingredients of all of the vaccines are documented by the manufacturers. They are listed in the publicly available documents submitted to the FDA. They are documented by the CDC. Heck, I even saw a few news organizations show the ingredients.
 

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What??? The ingredients of all of the vaccines are documented by the manufacturers. They are listed in the publicly available documents submitted to the FDA. They are documented by the CDC. Heck, I even saw a few news organizations show the ingredients.

Can u show me because I can't find it
 

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Our government claims its safe and effective...
That's misleading to say the least

On a large scale, i.e. the population of the earth, the COVID vaccine is safer than most over the counter or prescription medications you've ever taken in your life. If the COVID vaccine is safer (i.e. fewer instances of serious side effects) than many of the medications you've already taken in your life, how can you take issue with calling it safe?

Like I said, every drug ever invented has serious side effects, and we call many of them 'safe' all the time. Therefore, we know it's just a figure of speech than means something to the effect of it has relatively few serious side effects and the average person who uses it responsibly won't have any problems. I'm sure you already know this. But you seem to want to throw it out the window in order to attack the COVID vaccine.
 

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On a large scale, i.e. the population of the earth, the COVID vaccine is safer than most over the counter or prescription medications you've ever taken in your life. If the COVID vaccine is safer (i.e. fewer instances of serious side effects) than many of the medications you've already taken in your life, how can you take issue with calling it safe?

Like I said, every drug ever invented has serious side effects, and we call many of them 'safe' all the time. Therefore, we know it's just a figure of speech than means something to the effect of it has relatively few serious side effects and the average person who uses it responsibly won't have any problems. I'm sure you already know this. But you seem to want to throw it out the window in order to attack the COVID vaccine.

There have been many drugs on the market, approved by the FDA, that were later banned by the FDA because of latent and long term effects. Some of them, it took decades before we became aware of the problems, which, may I add, the drug manufacturers did massive coverups of the problems, hiding them for as long as possible. So what you keep insisting on is rather…ostrichlike. You have zero credibility.
 
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Two Children ‘Accidentally’ Given COVID-19 Vaccines At Walgreens, BOTH Now Suffering From ‘Heart Issues’ – Lawyer
by Andrew White | National File

Two young children were “accidentally” given the COVID-19 vaccine instead of flu shots at a Walgreens in Indiana according to local media. Now, both are experiencing “heart issues,” according to their pediatrician. ...

My wife and I have effected a MORATORIUM on ANY Hypodermic Injection, and ANY "NEW" Medications.

We can NO LONGER TRUST our Government, our Law Enforcement, or our Medical Providers. The SAD TRUTH is that we're on our own, and if we're not SELF-RELIANT, we're TARGETS. And I'm NOT inclined to be a TARGET. However, others may find THEMSELVES as Targets.


With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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RE: @LiveByFaith
... You have zero credibility.

Dearest SBG,

Some have Mis-Information, and others have Dis-Information, but we're exhorted to have ACCURATE Information so that we might not suffer loss. And so where it's difficult to see some people's motives, we CAN look at ALL THE HYPOCRITES which espouse the same rhetoric in our society, including Well Known Personalities, Corporations, Politicians, Mass Media, and other LIARS.

And having this evidence ALONE should be sufficient for ANY sensible person to QUESTION the narrative. -- But what would this world be without foolish people.


With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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My wife and I have effected a MORATORIUM on ANY Hypodermic Injection, and ANY "NEW" Medications.

We can NO LONGER TRUST our Government, our Law Enforcement, or our Medical Providers. The SAD TRUTH is that we're on our own, and if we're not SELF-RELIANT, we're TARGETS. And I'm NOT inclined to be a TARGET. However, others may find THEMSELVES as Targets.


With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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I don’t even get the tests and checkups they tell me I need. I only go to the doctor if I’m sick.
 
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Did you actually read the FDA document that this ex-Pfizer employee is trying so hard vilify?
No I did not read that document Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting September 17, 2021 FDA Briefing Document.
But a quick reading of it now shows that it is meant to mislead and confuse people by employing terminology which makes absolutely no sense (which is exactly what they want to do). Since it appears that you are here to bolster and support the evil agenda of Big Pharma and FDA, let's take a closer look at that document to show you that you are trying to attack the person who is exposing the "official" lies instead of supporting them. Quotations from this document are in red.

1. "To support the need for a booster dose, the submission referenced several observational studies that suggest waning of protection in the setting of the current Delta variant surge among individuals who previously received a 2-dose series."
1. What is an "observational study"?
2. What is "suggest waning of protection"?
3. What is the "current Delta variant"?
4. Why is there a "surge" when there should be total immunity and zero surge?
What this means in plain English is that there is no real HARD EVIDENCE for either the so-called "Delta variant" doing more harm, and there is no hard evidence that the so-called vaccine produced any immunity in the first place. So this is all SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

2. "This BLA supplement includes safety and immunogenicity data assessed against the reference strain (wild-type) from approximately 300 immunocompetent adults 18 through 55 years of age enrolled in an ongoing Phase 2/3 study..."
Who is an "immunocompetent adult"?
They have created a new term to justify their lies and deception. One is either "fully immunized" by a vaccine or one is not. So since the vaccine is not producing any immunity, they are presenting more SMOKE AND MIRRORS with "immunocompetent" which means absolutely nothing.

3. "The effectiveness of the booster dose is based on immunobridging analyses from the Phase 3 group of participants..."
What the heck is "immunobridging"?
It should be obvious that both Pfizer and the FDA are trying to fool everyone by creating new confusing terms to mislead people. It has already been published that after booster shot #1, they want to give booster shot #2, and on and on for as long as they can fool people. So this is simply more SMOKE AND MIRRORS. There is no sober medical science here.

Will anyone even read this self-serving and deceptive document, and if they do will they be convinced that this is all a sham? So to go back to square one people should remember:

1. God has provided men with an OUTSTANDING immune system to fight bacteria and viruses. When there is a microbial invader, the body produces antigens and T-cells to fight the invader. And that creates natural immunity, which for all practical purposes is lifetime immunity.

2. Real vaccines isolate actual viruses, and then either weaken them or kill them. These are then injected as antigens into the body, so that the body automatically produces corresponding antibodies. These antibodies attack any actual viruses which then enter the body, thereby keeping that person healthy. And he or she does not infect someone else. Neither does that person need "booster" shots if the vaccine does what it is supposed to do. They have immunity.

3. The flu vaccine was only about 40% effective, which means that even after taking the flu shot, you have a 60:40 chance of coming down with the flu. So why bother? I refused to take flu shots ever since they were introduced and remained healthy through every flu season. People (especially the elderly) who took these shots either became very ill or even died!

4. The bogus COVID vaccines are actually making people sick and sending them to hospital. There are more vaccinated people being hospitalized than unvaccinated. Therefore both the vaccines and the booster shots are there as a money-making scheme. Nothing more.

Medical science has been turned on its head so that (1) Big Pharma can rake in billions or trillions of dollars and (2) all governments can destroy individual freedoms and lives through COVID tyranny. And if a Christian supports these evildoers, he or she becomes complicit in their evil deeds.
 
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My wife and I have effected a MORATORIUM on ANY Hypodermic Injection, and ANY "NEW" Medications.

We can NO LONGER TRUST our Government, our Law Enforcement, or our Medical Providers. The SAD TRUTH is that we're on our own, and if we're not SELF-RELIANT, we're TARGETS. And I'm NOT inclined to be a TARGET. However, others may find THEMSELVES as Targets.


With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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We may, however, be the target of blowguns! They say that scripture has an answer for all of life's problems...now, I realize that I'm single and that it is easier for me to say this, but, "If I live, I live for Christ, if I die, my gain!"
I'm passing through a mist called, "This life." Shalom.
 

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We may, however, be the target of blowguns! They say that scripture has an answer for all of life's problems...now, I realize that I'm single and that it is easier for me to say this, but, "If I live, I live for Christ, if I die, my gain!"
I'm passing through a mist called, "This life." Shalom.

... and the good thing is that we're not alone. We STAND TOGETHER against satan's attacks knowing that while some may be martyred, the Victory is OURS through Jesus.


With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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... and the good thing is that we're not alone. We STAND TOGETHER against satan's attacks knowing that while some may be martyred, the Victory is OURS through Jesus.


With VERY Best Regards,
Bobby Jo & ELAM :rolleyes:

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Amen, brother!
 
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