Mask Control: Prove COVID-19 exists...I dare you!

[Addy]

I wish I was a bird... Soring high in the sky where they can't reach me... Closer to heaven... Unvaccinated... Free from all the pressures of our evil world...

OH MY GOODNESS... the word picture you just imprinted on my mind.... all the unvaccinated crows... HAHAHA.... NOW... every time I see a bird.. I am going to yell at them to GET THEIR SHOT... HAHAHAHAHA

 

[APAK]

In NSW they said they would open up once 70% were vaxed... They held the state for ransom
The PM said there would be no more lickdowns at 70%...

Now they claim that 70% have been vaccinated.

Have they kept their word...
NO. Their still locked down...

And also in Victoria they are predicting a surge in hospitalisation in October... What the hell

How obvious is it now that these vaccines don't work...
They don't provide immunity
Their not ending any plandemic

Mind you I don't believe them when they say 70% are vaxed

The odds are they don't have 70 percent in the State, just like over here when for the entire nation they say is over 60 percent vaxed...they have a habit of constantly lying.

 

[APAK]

I was thinking, when we look at some third world countries, their hygiene is not as good as some first world countries, and the people in some of the third world countries seem to be more vulnerable to viruses and diseases.

That is quite debatable J. and you might have to rephrase and qualify this statement you just made, considerably.

There are major glaring factors: the constant barrage of alien or foreign invaders over the last 100 years that have greatly contributed to specific countries demise in many ways. They are 'kindly' and impersonally dubbed 3rd (rated) world countries for it (intention sarcasm usage).

Are you will to investigate these major factor I'm now introducing here?

Are we to throw a blind eye aside and purposely forget the contamination, damage and deaths cause by Western drug and so-called vaccine pushers that have irreversibly altered 3rd world health conditions for the worst. Remember that many parts of Africa and India are still being used as major experimental sites to promote, test out dangerous poisons on their peoples. Many, many have died and are permanently disabled. Like the military industrial Complex and War machine of the West using the Middle East to live fire and test their deadly weapons that have also irreversibility degraded not just their personal health and well being, but also damaged their cultures, and livelihoods.

Do you have something to say about all this then J.?

 

[APAK]

You see how many times they've changed the goal posts @APAK...

First it was 2 weeks to flatten the curve....
20 months later and the public is still being held for ransom... Now they've just changed it again to 70% double vaxed... But we all know they won't stop there...

Before you know it they will be demanding 100% 6, 7, 8 jabs or more.

Meanwhile all the data shows these experimental needles aren't working but making it worse

All this is starting to tire me down...
It's wearing me out... It's mental trauma... It's torment...

But my armour is top quality and I will stand strong in it until the end...
It's made by the greatest blacksmith ever... God

All so true....and I'm standing strong with you

 

[APAK]

Just to add about the hand washing, those instructions have been up in all our hospitals and within the care homes and environments Long before covid came into play ………….we have an e-learning course that we have to do every year, and it goes through the same instructions, same reasons. I believe this is my seventh year of watching it. It’s common sense in places where there is an issue of infectious control.
Do I follow the instructions outside of work, not nearly as much, just when it’s common sense to do so.

@APAK The manager at work has offered me a compromise with my contract add on, sign to say I have had two vaccines and complied with the legislation, but have an add on that will give me more freedom of choice with the booster and follow on vaccines. It was a solution I wasn’t expecting as it only came through yesterday after a really challenging time at work. ( and after emails back and fourth with the manager ). On Tuesday I had two choices, conform or take on the Hall mark company alone if they chose to fire me on Nov 12. However there was unease about potentially taking a legal route ( that same spiritual niggle that prompted my concerns in the first place ) I didn’t get a lot a sleep, talk to the Lord continuously internally , then the next morning the email arrived about an alternative way forward.
My job is safe and and I can proceed with my own personal freedom of choice in place.
Still have some things to do with regards to finding out things for others who have signed believing it’s all legislation at the moment …….

So I can now celebrate with you Rita?!!!! It's all good and reasonable to you then? Our prayers do work, and especially with immediate impact when they get answered quickly and directly...not always the case though...

Happy that you are happy Rita....all honor and glory to our Father that makes it all happen

PS...yes I've seem a lot of these cleaning instructions myself plastered about and especially since we first went on cruises in the late 90s..and with a kid's wash your hands jingle song to boot.. common sense is the key

 

[Addy]

Sorry...

 

[Truman]

I wish I was a bird... Soring high in the sky where they can't reach me... Closer to heaven... Unvaccinated... Free from all the pressures of our evil world...

I feel for you, man. I am so blessed that I can use my music anointing to soar into the stratosphere. I'll sing something like this:
Holy Spirit, as we sing, come be the wind beneath our wings
Holy Spirit, help us dream, inspire us to greater things
As the winds of war draw nigh, come life us higher in the sky
That we may see across the land, the working of the Father's hand

Come, Holy Spirit, come, free Your people
Lead us into battle, come do great things through us

 

[APAK]

@Josho ...you are who or what you are, and folks looking from the outside in can see you sometimes better that you can being stuck inside of yourself. And that goes for everyone and not just for you.

Have you heard of the Johari window, divided into four squares or panes...?

Here's one link...

Johari window - Wikipedia

You might need to either get thicker skin or just joke about things more without getting too serious and rigid...just saying...:)

 

[Josho]

That is quite debatable J. and you might have to rephrase and qualify this statement you just made, considerably.

There are major glaring factors: the constant barrage of alien or foreign invaders over the last 100 years that have greatly contributed to specific countries demise in many ways. They are 'kindly' and impersonally dubbed 3rd (rated) world countries for it (intention sarcasm usage).

Are you will to investigate these major factor I'm now introducing here?

Are we to throw a blind eye aside and purposely forget the contamination, damage and deaths cause by Western drug and so-called vaccine pushers that have irreversibly altered 3rd world health conditions for the worst. Remember that many parts of Africa and India are still being used as major experimental sites to promote, test out dangerous poisons on their peoples. Many, many have died and are permanently disabled. Like the military industrial Complex and War machine of the West using the Middle East to live fire and test their deadly weapons that have also irreversibility degraded not just their personal health and well being, but also damaged their cultures, and livelihoods.

Do you have something to say about all this then J.?

Contamination goes into the same category as uncleanliness, most of China's pollution is created by China themselves.

Living in an unclean environment is not good for people's health.

Yes there's a lack of trust with vaccines in Africa due to past wrongs when the world was more racist, but that is talking about the past. And sadly people are going to use this against others that did nothing wrong. People will dig for any little bit of negative information from the past and use it against anything that's created for good.


Why make pro-vaxxers look like the enemies here? You have the right to choose, and I have the right to choose, Christians are free to get vaccinated and free to refuse vaccinations, vaccinations are not against the Bible, I do not fear vaccines, we had vaccines when we were at school, God gave men and women brains, every good and perfect gift is a gift from God.


The reason why threads like this one stir me, is because it gives a false stereotype, a false idea that makes people think all us Christians are anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers and don't believe in pandemics.

But no......

Some of us Christians believe in Wisdom and being sensible during times of a global pandemic by mask wearing, social distancing, following the medical advice from medical professionals.

 

[Addy]

You might need to either get thicker skin or just joke about things more without getting too serious and rigid...just saying...:)

I have that problem too... I am very sensitive... but I also have a wonderful sense of humour... WHEN people start demeaning another... that is NOT a good thing... Sometimes the comments made are borderline mean. Just saying...

 

[Addy]

Why make pro-vaxxers look like the enemies here? You have the right to choose, and I have the right to choose, Christians are free to get vaccinated and free to refuse vaccinations, vaccinations are not against the Bible, I do not fear vaccines, we had vaccines when we were at school, God gave men and women brains, every good thing is a gift from God.

You are CORRECT my dear Josho.... and that has been my belief all along.... Sadly... there are a great many Christians who have gotten on the bandwagon of "woke"... It's been almost two years of constant opinions running WILD... statistic after statistic... and many Christians in my opinion HAVE lost their "wisdom" so to speak because they have thrown vaccines into the political arena. They have made this issue one of NON CHOICE.

I follow the rules... I wear a mask in public spaces... Don't have one iota of a problem with that... I also keep my distance... and I live a quiet life... As you know... I am not vaccinated... but that stems from my own personal CHOICE....something that USED to be a right... but has suddenly turned into a BASHING 'each other' topic.

 

[Truman]

I'll just go get a bowl of oatmeal and fruit and then I'll be back!
Keep going, don't mind me!

 

[Cristo Rei]

I feel for you, man. I am so blessed that I can use my music anointing to soar into the stratosphere. I'll sing something like this:
Holy Spirit, as we sing, come be the wind beneath our wings
Holy Spirit, help us dream, inspire us to greater things
As the winds of war draw nigh, come life us higher in the sky
That we may see across the land, the working of the Father's hand

Come, Holy Spirit, come, free Your people
Lead us into battle, come do great things through us

Wow that is so beautiful...
Thanks for sharing

 

[APAK]

You are CORRECT my dear Josho.... and that has been my belief all along.... Sadly... there are a great many Christians who have gotten on the bandwagon of "woke"... It's been almost two years of constant opinions running WILD... statistic after statistic... and many Christians in my opinion HAVE lost their "wisdom" so to speak because they have thrown vaccines into the political arena. They have made this issue one of NON CHOICE.

I follow the rules... I wear a mask in public spaces... Don't have one iota of a problem with that... I also keep my distance... and I live a quiet life... As you know... I am not vaccinated... but that stems from my own personal CHOICE....something that USED to be a right... but has suddenly turned into a BASHING each other topic.

Addy, you have presented a new definition of 'woke' here. Got it all wrong! The really awake folks are the ones you are defining as 'woke.'

The 'woke' in general are the leftists who are wanting to redo history, take down statues, support ANTIFA and the like, run the West into the ground and support communistic ideas..these are the WOKE. Just saying you have it all backwards here.

MOST Christians are NOT woke. Most Atheists' are WOKE...

 

[Addy]

Addy, you have presented a new definition of 'woke' here. Got it all wrong! The really awake folks are the ones you are defining as 'woke.'

When I say WOKE.... I mean.. those who think they are more aware than others... the NOISE has been escalating for months within these forums... along with more statistics than we have bugs... I have also "sensed" a more aggressive tone to the information sharing...

This issue has become a NASTY thing... all the way around.

Get the shot... or don't get the shot.... and for pete sakes... mind your own business about what others are doing... THAT is the way I SEE things.

I will not get bullied by ANYONE on ANYTHING... and many Christians have done and are continuing to do just that.

I have not been vaccinated nor will I be... but my daughter has... and a great many people I know have.... GOOD on them.

And on the issue of masks... I don't need to prove anything... I simply put it on when I am entering a public building... NO biggie.

 

[APAK]

Contamination goes into the same category as uncleanliness, most of China's pollution is created by China themselves.

Living in an unclean environment is not good for people's health.

Yes there's a lack of trust with vaccines in Africa due to past wrongs when the world was more racist, but that is talking about the past. And sadly people are going to use this against others that did nothing wrong. People will dig for any little bit of negative information from the past and use it against anything that's created for good.


Why make pro-vaxxers look like the enemies here? You have the right to choose, and I have the right to choose, Christians are free to get vaccinated and free to refuse vaccinations, vaccinations are not against the Bible, I do not fear vaccines, we had vaccines when we were at school, God gave men and women brains, every good and perfect gift is a gift from God.


The reason why threads like this one stir me, is because it gives a false stereotype, a false idea that makes people think all us Christians are anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers and don't believe in pandemics.

But no......

Some of us Christians believe in Wisdom and being sensible during times of a global pandemic by mask wearing, social distancing, following the medical advice from medical professionals.

Yes. I do know your stance by now on this entire COVID virus, vaxes, lockdowns, spacing apart of people and the cleaning, including the overall effect it is having, with the ever increasing clamp downs by petit tyrants that are drunk of their self-appointed new powers they now possess. It will crumble as always and they will pay...

I completely disagree with nearly all of your truth and wisdom you present here, as I believe in only lawful rules and policies supported by the public at large, by petition, address and voting on all issues. We do not have an emergency and a pandemic today Josho. That is your first mis-step. This has all been a contrived cruel and deadly joke for starters. And you cannot even see one speck of this in your headlights or rear mirror of the recent past. That is quite astonishing to me.

So let it be as it was said by one Paul, and continue on the good fight in Christ and the protections afforded to us as truly God-given, as the other precious Paul loved to say or live his life by.

The fight that really counts in the end is true spiritual wisdom for today Josho. Not the wisdom of heathens. This major road block placed in front of us by these by heathens and atheists alike, are mostly anti-Christian.

It is true spiritual wisdom that knows how to fight these spirits of darkness, the lovers of self and the darkness we face today.

Trying to add more support for your 'leaders' of wisdom and their cruel programs against the people, by now implicating 3rd World 'uncleanliness' and the need to wash your hands of all things, as more justification for it all, is just you pulling for straws, as a desperate move...IMO

 

[Truman]

It's their choice...
You may not agree with me, but if I want to continue to have the freedom to differ with you, then I have to extend to you the same freedom. Otherwise, we end up with nefarious powers harnessing some of society's frustration and using it against us.
This is what Jesus meant when He said, "Treat others the way you want to be treated," or, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

 

[APAK]

It's their choice...
You may not agree with me, but if I want to continue to have the freedom to differ with you, then I have to extend to you the same freedom. Otherwise, we end up with nefarious powers harnessing some of society's frustration and using it against us.
This is what Jesus meant when He said, "Treat others the way you want to be treated," or, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

So true my friend. And because our spirits with the Spirit of God intact, keeps us in love and hope in this commandment, this is why we will ALWAYS have friction with the world and their ways. Their ways are alien to the mature believer in Christ. They only aim to serve and enrich themselves and do unto others as they would never do to themselves.

 

[Addy]

and Josho by his own admission is a millennial Christian which makes him quite YOUNG...
How have the older and "wiser" Christians on this thread dealt with him?

That is the problem... Christians are behaving very NOT nicely to one another... over a stupid vaccine... and before that it was a stupid election.

Anyways.... I will take my unpopular little opinion somewhere else.... I am still recovering from my bout with the legalists. LOL

 

[stunnedbygrace]

nefarious powers harnessing some of society's frustration and using it against us.

That’s the scapegoating I was talking about in the macrocosm of politics that happens on a smaller scale in families and workplaces. It’s the fallen human condition.