LGBTQ

[Jack]

The corporate world is under extreme pressure from the banks. These companies don't want to lose money but the have no choice. Have you heard of the ESG score? A prelude to the mark of the beast I imagine.

Please elaborate

 

[RLT63]

The corporate world is under extreme pressure from the banks. These companies don't want to lose money but the have no choice. Have you heard of the ESG score? A prelude to the mark of the beast I imagine.

Yes the ESG score is pressuring them to embrace diversity equity and inclusion nonsense, green energy and LGBTQ wokeness

 

[TinMan]

God calls it "shameful".

Romans 1
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,

and what is this "lifestyle"?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Please elaborate

ESG stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance score. ESG investing is used to screen investments based on corporate policies and to encourage companies to act "responsibly." In short, a bank is able to refuse financing to a company that has a low ESG score. Loaning money is no longer a matter of the ability to pay the loan back. It's a weapon in the hands of banks and other lending institutions pressuring companies to act in support of the woke agenda. I suspect that Coke used a Transgender person in an ad in order to raise their ESG score.

China employs a similar score to coerce citizens to behave in a manner dictated by the Communist Party. I speculate that the mark of the Beast will work the same way. Keep your eyes and ears open to stories concerning "government/private" partnerships. In the US it is against the constitution, for instance, for the Government to censor citizens. But the Government coerces private companies to censor citizens to the same effect. It is said that it is not against the law for a private company to censor the people.

In other words, the ESG score is a weapon to force the private sector to behave contrary to the constitution in order to support the government agenda.

 

[TinMan]

I have given you reasons based on design.

you gave reasons that you think justify your personal prejudice.

Try some actual evidence...you know...the stuff you refuse to even look at

 

[RLT63]

ESG stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance score. ESG investing is used to screen investments based on corporate policies and to encourage companies to act "responsibly." In short, a bank is able to refuse financing to a company that has a low ESG score. Loaning money is no longer a matter of the ability to pay the loan back. It's a weapon in the hands of banks and other lending institutions pressuring companies to act in support of the woke agenda. I suspect that Coke used a Transgender person in an ad in order to raise their ESG score.

China employs a similar score to coerce citizens to behave in a manner dictated by the Communist Party. I speculate that the mark of the Beast will work the same way. Keep your eyes and ears open to stories concerning "government/private" partnerships. In the US it is against the constitution, for instance, for the Government to censor citizens. But the Government coerces private companies to censor citizens to the same effect. It is said that it is not against the law for a private company to censor the people.

In other words, the ESG score is a weapon to force the private sector to behave contrary to the constitution in order to support the government agenda.

Informative

 

[CadyandZoe]

you gave reasons that you think justify your personal prejudice.

Try some actual evidence...you know...the stuff you refuse to even look at

What is wrong with prejudice? Prejudice is a God-given defense mechanism. If I see what looks like a wolf, I will act accordingly. I will escape the situation and leave. If it turned out to be a dog, then fine. No harm done.

Prejudice isn't wrong in and of itself. Prejudice is only wrong if I should act on my prejudice, favoring or injuring someone on the basis of their membership in a particular group.

Understand? I can hold that homosexuals have a broken psyche, but at the same time, treat them with the respect and dignity that all other people deserve. I believe, as the Bible teaches, that all human beings, even homosexuals are created in the image of God and therefore, on that basis, all human beings should be treated with dignity, even homosexuals.

Prejudice, a God-given defense mechanism, doesn't dictate my behavior with respect to another human being because I am dedicated to a higher calling. My baser instincts do not control me.

 

[TinMan]

Here’s an example

Gay Lobby Demands More Gay Movie Characters Even Though They Are Already OVERREPRESENTED BY 460%

GLAAD says big-budget Hollywood films don't include enough gay, lesbian and transgender characters even though LGBT characters overrepresented by 460 percent

dailycaller.com

the fact it is inaccurate says more about the media writing this article than anything else.
If you looks at the actual article of the media monitoring group you get something different.

for example the article claimed that:
The index harshly criticizes America’s seven major movie studios for featuring gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender characters in 22 out of 126 films in 2015. The percentage of films with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender characters, then, is 17.5 percent.

This isn't factual and the monitoring group applied the Bechdel Test (set of criteria for identifying how minority characters are presented in film. Specifically if that minority character were removed it would have some effect on the movie. And were not there just to provide fodder for a punchline. Of the 126 films reviewed only 3 LGBT characters passed the Bechdel test and all of those were minor characters and none appeared on film for longer than 5 minutes

And that is pretty sad

Also of note is the fact that there were no demands and no recommendations beyond: More films need to include substantive and nuanced LGBT characters" Which apparently counts as "pitching a fit"

 

[TinMan]

What is orientation if not a preference for a particular type of people?

Sexual orientation is an individuals enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.

Childhood playmates are not in any way part of orientation

No one goes courting the opposite sex. They might attempt to deceive someone into having sex with them under false pretenses.
We are all hardwired with curiosity. Many people engage in roll reversal because they are very curious about what things are like for the other person. This is the result of God-given sympathy. We want to know what it is like to walk in the other person's shoes. So, for a time, we act the part, pretending to be another person.

Did you read what you wrote here?

You don't seem to understand. Same-sex orientation IS proof of a damaged psyche. No one in their right mind would allow another person to penetrate them in places that should not be penetrated.

Design, design, design.

Yes, people die on the operating table. But it doesn't follow that we should abandon attempts to heal.

You didn't let me finish. Why is that?

Coming to terms with the problem is the first step in healing.

No. I was talking about behavior, wasn't I? Yes. How many times did I tell you that LGBT is behavior?
Have you never read, "Faithful are the wounds of a friend, But deceitful are the kisses of an enemy." Proverbs 27:6?

In case you haven't noticed, I'm not falling for your trick. You are not going to embarrass me into being silent on this issue. You and I know that I am not being hateful. You can't manipulate me through my emotions. Not going to happen.


First of all, there is no such thing as transgenderism. This term came out of the Frankfurt School as the means to destroy society and weaken the military in preparation for invasion.

Second of all, some parents have been duped into thinking that a child needs a sex change operation in order to live a happy life. This too is a damnable lie. Greg Abbott is both wise and righteous to protect children from wokism.

No pretense on my part.

Then give in to reason. It's called "homo[sexual]" because it describes a sexual behavior, not a state of being. People are not born homosexual because God created them male and female. But even if by chance someone were born homosexual, and I am not saying they are, then they have the free will to abstain or remain celibate.

A person.

I didn't say orientation was a behavior. I said that homosexuality was a behavior. I said that orientation is God-given, which can be broken. Those who are oriented toward the same sex are broken.

The love is real, which is why people are easily manipulated into a practice that is contrary to the created order. But often people confuse love with need. Same result.


No. They don't.

My position is based on my worldview, which comes from the Bible. The Bible speaks truthfully about the human condition.

Don't lose the point. Christians do the right thing because it IS the right thing. We need no other reason than that. My point is this, I am not arguing for the practical reasons to avoid wickedness.

I am very sad that you are so consumed by hate. Please seek help.

 

[CadyandZoe]

the fact it is inaccurate says more about the media writing this article than anything else.
If you looks at the actual article of the media monitoring group you get something different.

for example the article claimed that:
The index harshly criticizes America’s seven major movie studios for featuring gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender characters in 22 out of 126 films in 2015. The percentage of films with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender characters, then, is 17.5 percent.

This isn't factual and the monitoring group applied the Bechdel Test (set of criteria for identifying how minority characters are presented in film. Specifically if that minority character were removed it would have some effect on the movie. And were not there just to provide fodder for a punchline. Of the 126 films reviewed only 3 LGBT characters passed the Bechdel test and all of those were minor characters and none appeared on film for longer than 5 minutes

And that is pretty sad

Also of note is the fact that there were no demands and no recommendations beyond: More films need to include substantive and nuanced LGBT characters" Which apparently counts as "pitching a fit"

Again, you need to ask yourself. Who would pay for a study to disprove what we have all seen with our own two eyes?

 

[CadyandZoe]

Sexual orientation is an individuals enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.

That was my point earlier, which you rejected. If sexual orientation refers to a person's sense of identity, which is based on a lie, it still remains a trivial characteristic in contradistinction to other aspects of our reputation. Why not simply be a good airline pilot, a great statesman, a wise philosopher, a skilled artisan, a great inventor, poet, composer, conductor, historian, architect, archeologist, or astronaut?

Why choose sexuality as a means to define one's self? Orientation, if it exists, is strictly an inward reality, It would go unnoticed if it weren't for some perverted need to let everyone know about it. It's like saying, "I can walk on two feet." I mean, really? Big deal! So what?

And it's all based on a lie.

Childhood playmates are not in any way part of orientation

Not in your book because you believe in a perverse definition of orientation. And, it would seem, you have a tendency to ignore real-life situations.

I am very sad that you are so consumed by hate. Please seek help.

What saddens me is the infiltration of false teaching into our schools and our public dialog. You have no reasons for what you believe except your feelings about it as if emotion was a reliable source of truth. I get it, you feel bad when you see others being mistreated. But feeling bad about injustice isn't a good reason to deny the rational universe.

 

[Jack]

and what is this "lifestyle"?

Do you have reading problems?

Romans 1
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,

 

[Jack]

ESG stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance score. ESG investing is used to screen investments based on corporate policies and to encourage companies to act "responsibly." In short, a bank is able to refuse financing to a company that has a low ESG score. Loaning money is no longer a matter of the ability to pay the loan back. It's a weapon in the hands of banks and other lending institutions pressuring companies to act in support of the woke agenda. I suspect that Coke used a Transgender person in an ad in order to raise their ESG score.

China employs a similar score to coerce citizens to behave in a manner dictated by the Communist Party. I speculate that the mark of the Beast will work the same way. Keep your eyes and ears open to stories concerning "government/private" partnerships. In the US it is against the constitution, for instance, for the Government to censor citizens. But the Government coerces private companies to censor citizens to the same effect. It is said that it is not against the law for a private company to censor the people.

In other words, the ESG score is a weapon to force the private sector to behave contrary to the constitution in order to support the government agenda.

Satan is very subtle when trying to deceive God's children, but he can be very bold for unbelievers. Many will take the Mark because Satan has totally blinded them. His boldness may be just arising. Even some "Christians" deny the literal Mark of the Beast. Satan has been busy.

Revelation 12
12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time."

 

[RLT63]

the fact it is inaccurate says more about the media writing this article than anything else.
If you looks at the actual article of the media monitoring group you get something different.

for example the article claimed that:
The index harshly criticizes America’s seven major movie studios for featuring gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender characters in 22 out of 126 films in 2015. The percentage of films with gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender characters, then, is 17.5 percent.

This isn't factual and the monitoring group applied the Bechdel Test (set of criteria for identifying how minority characters are presented in film. Specifically if that minority character were removed it would have some effect on the movie. And were not there just to provide fodder for a punchline. Of the 126 films reviewed only 3 LGBT characters passed the Bechdel test and all of those were minor characters and none appeared on film for longer than 5 minutes

And that is pretty sad

Also of note is the fact that there were no demands and no recommendations beyond: More films need to include substantive and nuanced LGBT characters" Which apparently counts as "pitching a fit"

Just from what little television I watch gays are well represented. I don’t need you to tell me it’s not happening when I see it with my own eyes. LGBT Characters Wikia

 

[RLT63]

What is wrong with prejudice? Prejudice is a God-given defense mechanism. If I see what looks like a wolf, I will act accordingly. I will escape the situation and leave. If it turned out to be a dog, then fine. No harm done.

Prejudice isn't wrong in and of itself. Prejudice is only wrong if I should act on my prejudice, favoring or injuring someone on the basis of their membership in a particular group.

Understand? I can hold that homosexuals have a broken psyche, but at the same time, treat them with the respect and dignity that all other people deserve. I believe, as the Bible teaches, that all human beings, even homosexuals are created in the image of God and therefore, on that basis, all human beings should be treated with dignity, even homosexuals.

Prejudice, a God-given defense mechanism, doesn't dictate my behavior with respect to another human being because I am dedicated to a higher calling. My baser instincts do not control me.

Exactly. I treat everyone the same.

 

[Wrangler]

Sexual orientation is an individuals enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes.

What part of, it’s not ‘orientation’ but action that is the proper domain for moral condemnation?

Homosexual acts are a sin and nothing you’ve said in this thread changes that one little bit.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Sexual orientation is an individuals enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors and membership in a community of others who share those attractions.

Childhood playmates are not in any way part of orientation

Did you read what you wrote here?


I am very sad that you are so consumed by hate. Please seek help.

I think I have said everything I can say on this subject. Before I go, I want to say two more things.

First, I think you should know that this is a supernatural movement. There is an unclean spirit behind this movement and at the very least we need to be praying for the children in our local area.

Second, one might understandably conclude that this thread has been a debate on the subject of LGBTQ. But in fact, it's been an attempt to save your soul. Please consider what we have said.

 

[TheOneHeLoves]

'You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.' Anne Lamott

again, I hate sin and you apparently can't understand the difference between sin and people.

 

[Jack]

Liberals always accuse others of what they are themselves, filled with HATE!

 

[TinMan]

again, I hate sin and you apparently can't understand the difference between sin and people.

wow irony