LGBTQ

[Wrangler]

Present it.

Read up on cultural Marxism.

 

[Wrangler]

again neither honest or virtuous

Friend, you got your moral poles reversed.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Well that is convenient.

If by "convenient" you mean, "a good argument against your point of view" then I agree. The locus of the argument is focused on the central question. "What does it mean to be human?" In Romans 1, Paul argues that homosexuality is a violation of the created order. And just as someone is able to know about the existence of God from the things he created, one can know that homosexuality is wrong based on the fact that he created them male and female. Compare the genitals of a man with those of a woman. Their purpose is self-evident. And as Paul argues, anyone who denies the obvious has a mind that is not worthy of being called a "mind."

At that time Sigmund Freud wrote: "Homosexuality is assuredly no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation, it cannot be classified as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function.

Sigmund was an idiot. His worldview assumes a therapeutic philosophy. His goal was not to heal; his goal was to make people feel better about themselves as if feeling better was all that mattered.

Paul classifies homosexuality as mental privation for the reason I indicated above. The purpose of the genitals is obvious. Using them contrary to nature is a violation of the created order and an unrighteous suppression of the knowledge of God, all for the sake of pleasure.

But that is avoiding the issue. There is no evidence and there never has been that homosexuality is the product of a broken psyche or that it is not natural.

As Paul said, the evidence is right in front of you.

you were born heterosexual just as some are born homosexual.

No one is born heterosexual or homosexual. These terms indicate a pattern of behavior and a learned disposition of the mind. We are born with sexual organs and an innate attraction to the opposite sex. Those who act according to nature, develop the habit of "heterosexuality." Those who act contrary to nature, develop the habit of "homosexuality."

You won't look at it because you don't want to see something you don't like, which is neither honest or virtuous.

I choose not to read papers that will do nothing more than waste my time.

Let me tell you something about science, which is so fundamental I risk insulting you by telling you this. Science is the study of the natural order. Therefore, if a scientist draws a conclusion that is contrary to the natural order, that scientist is mistaken, or compromised. Either way, his or her papers are not worth reading.

All we need to do, as Paul argues, is observe the human body. And those who are not unrighteously attempting to suppress the existence of God will see from the evidence (human genitalia) that homosexual behavior is a violation of the created order. Anyone who makes this practice into a pattern of behavior is denying the truth of his or her own existence and will end up with a mind that is not worthy of being called a mind.

 

[Behold]

the gay agenda is just a lie

Then why do you keep believing it?

 

[TinMan]

Read up on cultural Marxism.

So it doesn't exist, Thank you again for being so honest.

 

[TinMan]

Friend, you got your moral poles reversed.

not your friend.
and MY moral poles are reversed because I will honestly look at evidence and not just reject it because it might say something i don't like. .. Right

 

[Wrangler]

So it doesn't exist, Thank you again for being so honest.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. If there were no gay agenda, there would be no pride month, no rally's, no lawsuits. Cultural Marxism explains it all.

 

[TinMan]

If by "convenient" you mean, "a good argument against your point of view" then I agree.

But it is not an argument. It is an unsupported decleration.

The locus of the argument is focused on the central question. "What does it mean to be human?" In Romans 1, Paul argues that homosexuality is a violation of the created order. And just as someone is able to know about the existence of God from the things he created, one can know that homosexuality is wrong based on the fact that he created them male and female.

Orientation is independent of biological gender.
Its the equivenalt of saying that being left handed is morally wrong becaue we have two eyes.

Compare the genitals of a man with those of a woman. Their purpose is self-evident.

Removal of waste products from the body...
body parts have multiple uses.

And as Paul argues, anyone who denies the obvious has a mind that is not worthy of being called a "mind."

the self-evident purpose of ears is to facilitate hearing but we still use them to hold up eye glasses.

Sigmund was an idiot. His worldview assumes a therapeutic philosophy. His goal was not to heal; his goal was to make people feel better about themselves as if feeling better was all that mattered.

You asked about the views of that time in history and he spelled it out. I'm sorry you don't like what he said but maybe you should adress that rather than engage in simply calling him names.

Paul classifies homosexuality as mental privation for the reason I indicated above. The purpose of the genitals is obvious. Using them contrary to nature is a violation of the created order and an unrighteous suppression of the knowledge of God, all for the sake of pleasure.

As Paul said, the evidence is right in front of you.

obviously not that obvious.

No one is born heterosexual or homosexual.

Evidence?
And unlike you if you do provide something i will honestly look at it.

These terms indicate a pattern of behavior and a learned disposition of the mind.

Evidence?

We are born with sexual organs and an innate attraction to the opposite sex.

Evidence

Those who act according to nature, develop the habit of "heterosexuality." Those who act contrary to nature, develop the habit of "homosexuality."

Evicence?

I choose not to read papers that will do nothing more than waste my time.

What are you afraid you will learn?

Let me tell you something about science, which is so fundamental I risk insulting you by telling you this. Science is the study of the natural order. Therefore, if a scientist draws a conclusion that is contrary to the natural order, that scientist is mistaken, or compromised.

Or the popular or dogma about the "natural order" is justwrong
Copernicus drew conclusions that were contrary to the natural order....but he was right, the earth orbits the sun
Robert Koch and Louis Pasteur drew conclusions that were contrary to the natural order...but microscopic organisms really do cause disease.

Either way, his or her papers are not worth reading.

All we need to do, as Paul argues, is observe the human body. And those who are not unrighteously attempting to suppress the existence of God will see from the evidence (human genitalia) that homosexual behavior is a violation of the created order.

you are the one doing the suppressing

Anyone who makes this practice into a pattern of behavior is denying the truth of his or her own existence and will end up with a mind that is not worthy of being called a mind.

And that is why lgbt people are worthy of hate.

 

[TinMan]

Denial is not just a river in Egypt. If there were no gay agenda, there would be no pride month, no rally's, no lawsuits. Cultural Marxism explains it all.

And still you can't show us all this "gay agenda"

 

[Jack]

It's truly sad that some who claim to be Christians actually try to lead gays to Hell fire.

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Wrangler]

And still you can't show us all this "gay agenda"

I already did show you the gay agenda - multiple times.

 

[TinMan]

I already did show you the gay agenda - multiple times.

 

[Behold]

So it doesn't exist, Thank you again for being so honest.

Finally the great Gay Agenda is working! Twice as many of us now identify as LGBTQ+​

Arwa Mahdawi

As a card-carrying member of the International Society for the Advancement of Homosexual Lifestyles (ISAHL), I can assure you that the Gay Agenda explicitly prohibits the use of bioweapons. No, we focus solely on mind control techniques. A little bit of brainwashing, subliminal messaging during the ad breaks, that sort of thing.


I can’t divulge the details of any of ISAHL’s top-secret techniques,......."""

 

[Behold]

Finally the great Gay Agenda is working! Twice as many of us now identify as LGBTQ+​

Arwa Mahdawi

As a card-carrying member of the International Society for the Advancement of Homosexual Lifestyles (ISAHL), I can assure you that the Gay Agenda explicitly prohibits the use of bioweapons. No, we focus solely on mind control techniques. A little bit of brainwashing, subliminal messaging during the ad breaks, that sort of thing.


I can’t divulge the details of any of ISAHL’s top-secret techniques,.......""""

 

[Behold]

Finally the great Gay Agenda is working! Twice as many of us now identify as LGBTQ+​

Arwa Mahdawi

As a card-carrying member of the International Society for the Advancement of Homosexual Lifestyles (ISAHL), I can assure you that the Gay Agenda explicitly prohibits the use of bioweapons. No, we focus solely on mind control techniques. A little bit of brainwashing, subliminal messaging during the ad breaks, that sort of thing.


I can’t divulge the details of any of ISAHL’s top-secret techniques,.......""""

 

[Jack]

Luke 17
28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built;
29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

Right on schedule!

 

[Behold]

Luke 17
28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built;
29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

Right on schedule!

Yes.

That SIGN ..... is Screaming............."PRIDE".

 

[TinMan]

Finally the great Gay Agenda is working! Twice as many of us now identify as LGBTQ+​

Arwa Mahdawi

As a card-carrying member of the International Society for the Advancement of Homosexual Lifestyles (ISAHL), I can assure you that the Gay Agenda explicitly prohibits the use of bioweapons. No, we focus solely on mind control techniques. A little bit of brainwashing, subliminal messaging during the ad breaks, that sort of thing.


I can’t divulge the details of any of ISAHL’s top-secret techniques,......."""

Mahdawi is a great humorist. I almost thanked you for posting her satire then i realized you may think she is being serious. You seem to have a real problem identifying satire...even when it is labeled as such

Satire- the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.



Check out her website Rent_A_Minority for more satire.
"We have a minority for every occasion. Whether it’s a tech conference panel, an awards show, an advert, or a business meeting, we will collaborate to find the right minority for you. All of our minorities have been vetted to ensure they are not “too black” or “too Muslim” or “too much of a Feminist.” We know how awkward that can be. Each minority comes with bespoke pricing based on a proprietary algorithm that analyzes current states of supply/demand and the Degree of Diversity (TM) intrinsic to the potential hire."

 

[Behold]

Mahdawi is a great humorist. \

Listen Troll.

Let me correct you again.

She's a Lesbian.
"Gay Sex Lifestyle", = Homosexual
Understand?

She works for a Real Brit Newspaper, "The Guardian".. as a Columnist.

She also has a "satire" blog, but that is not her Job, at The Guardian.

So....Go ahead and thank me some more, now., and let me post you a photo.

She's absolutely "Gay Agenda" serious.

Here is her "WIFE and their "baby".
You can now pretend that the Gay world you live in, isn't void of Truth.
Go right ahead and stay there, little man.
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[CadyandZoe]

But it is not an argument. It is an unsupported decleration.

Yes, it is an argument. In case you missed it, here it is again. God created the natural order, which can be seen and studied. The purpose of genitalia is the reproduction of the species. With respect to human beings, God created male and female and he created genitalia and desire for the opposite sex in order to facilitate reproduction. LGBTQ are a set of orientations that violate the created order. Therefore they are not innate. Therefore they are immoral.

Orientation is independent of biological gender.

Of course. Nonetheless, any orientation which is contrary to biological sex is a violation of the created order. Therefore LGBTQ is sinful.

Its the equivenalt of saying that being left handed is morally wrong becaue we have two eyes.

Explain. There is no analogy. Orientation is against nature. Left-handedness is not.

Removal of waste products from the body...
body parts have multiple uses.

The natural order of things is that each body part has a specific use. Employing a body part for use contrary to nature is sinful and immoral.

the self-evident purpose of ears is to facilitate hearing but we still use them to hold up eye glasses.

I want to bring the question back to what it means to be a human being. What can we discern from our physicality and our sexuality, which might shed some light on human existence? God created male and female for a reason. God is never arbitrary. We may use our members to serve our desires in ways that are contrary to that reason, but this does not mean that the creator would approve of those modes of sexuality.

A man burning for another man is contrary to nature.

You asked about the views of that time in history and he spelled it out. I'm sorry you don't like what he said but maybe you should adress that rather than engage in simply calling him names.

I did address it. He was helping people feel better as if feeling better was the point.

obviously not that obvious.

No need to judge yourself.

Evidence?

Try to follow along. Terms like "homosexuality" don't indicate a state of being, they indicate a habitual practice.

Or the popular or dogma about the "natural order" is justwrong

Was I talking about the dominant paradigm? No. Was I talking about dogma? No. Was I talking about doctrine? No. I said science is the study of nature.

Copernicus drew conclusions that were contrary to the natural order.

No, he did not. He discovered the natural order. You seem confused about the term "natural order", which does not indicate religious dogma. The natural order is the cosmos considered an orderly system subject to natural law. Homosexuality violates the natural order.

you are the one doing the suppressing

Am I suppressing God's existence? No. Do I deny that God created everything? No. Do I deny that God is allowed to set conditions and expectations according to his own will and good pleasure? No.

Those who practice LGBTQ are doing that.

And that is why lgbt people are worthy of hate.

That does not follow. If a man has a drinking problem I don't hate him. If I can help I do. But if I was complicit in his denial, if I supported his denial if I acted as if nothing is wrong. Is it loving for me to be an enabler? In my view, Love means telling them the truth; hate means encouraging them to remain blind, negative, or self-destructive.

Calling me a hater is simply a way to deflect from the truth.