KJV The Pure Word of God?

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ByGraceThroughFaith

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Nonsense. Prove it.


In the Codex Sinaiticus, the books of the Old Testament probably followed one another in a somewhat similar order. Genesis to Chronicles, 1 Esdras, 2 Esdras (=Ezra, 4th Cent. Nehemiah), Esther, Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Isaiah, Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations, and Epistle [Ezek. Dan.], Minor Prophets, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach, Job. But the fragmentary condition in which the Old Testament in this MS. has survived, precludes any absolute certainty as to the place of Ezekiel and Daniel.” (Herbert Ryle; The Canon of the Old Testament, pp. 215-216)

“In the Codex Vaticanus, the books are arranged upon cod. Vat. the same principle, the chief differences being (i) the introduction of 'Apocrypha,' (2)the place of 'Job' after the canonical writings of Solomon, due perhaps to the uncertainty about authorship ; and (3) the place of the Twelve Minor Prophets before Isaiah, due probably to an attempt at chronological arrangement. The order in which the books follow one another is, ' Genesis—Chronicles, I Esdras, 2 Esdras ( =Ezra, Nehemiah), Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Job, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobit, Twelve Minor Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Baruch, Lamentations, Epistle of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel.

The Codex Alexandrinus contains the books of the Old Testament in three volumes, in the following order : —vol. i. Genesis to Chronicles ; vol. ii. Twelve Minor Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations, and Epistle of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel (Theodotion's version), Esther with Additions Tobit, Judith, 1 Esdras 2 Esdras ( =Ezra, Nehemiah), 1, 2, 3, 4 Maccabees ; vol. iii. Psalms with Canticles, Job, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach.

The three oldest Greek manuscripts that have the LXX, ALL have some of the Apocrypha books!

According to your reasoning, these are also Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and this makes your view HERETICAL!

I did tell you that you don't know what you are talking about, and clearly out of your depth!
 

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The Codex Alexandrinus contains the books of the Old Testament in three volumes, in the following order : —vol. i. Genesis to Chronicles ; vol. ii. Twelve Minor Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations, and Epistle of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel (Theodotion's version), Esther with Additions Tobit, Judith, 1 Esdras 2 Esdras ( =Ezra, Nehemiah), 1, 2, 3, 4 Maccabees ; vol. iii. Psalms with Canticles, Job, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach.

The three oldest Greek manuscripts that have the LXX, ALL have some of the Apocrypha books!

According to your reasoning, these are also Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and this makes your view HERETICAL!

I don't care one thing about Vaticanus nor Sinaiticus. So there is no need to include them. Confine your argument against Alexandrinus.

Like I said. The NT references OT writings that include words from books you reject. For example....

Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.

FYI.... the "festival of lights".......

You just don't know any better. You believe what you've been told. You should stop trusting anyone and find out for yourself.

Is John 10:22 inspired? Where did it come from?
 

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In the Codex Sinaiticus, the books of the Old Testament probably followed one another in a somewhat similar order. Genesis to Chronicles, 1 Esdras, 2 Esdras (=Ezra, 4th Cent. Nehemiah), Esther, Tobit, Judith, 1 Maccabees, 4 Maccabees, Isaiah, Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations, and Epistle [Ezek. Dan.], Minor Prophets, Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach, Job. But the fragmentary condition in which the Old Testament in this MS. has survived, precludes any absolute certainty as to the place of Ezekiel and Daniel.” (Herbert Ryle; The Canon of the Old Testament, pp. 215-216)

“In the Codex Vaticanus, the books are arranged upon cod. Vat. the same principle, the chief differences being (i) the introduction of 'Apocrypha,' (2)the place of 'Job' after the canonical writings of Solomon, due perhaps to the uncertainty about authorship ; and (3) the place of the Twelve Minor Prophets before Isaiah, due probably to an attempt at chronological arrangement. The order in which the books follow one another is, ' Genesis—Chronicles, I Esdras, 2 Esdras ( =Ezra, Nehemiah), Psalms, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Job, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobit, Twelve Minor Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Baruch, Lamentations, Epistle of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel.

The Codex Alexandrinus contains the books of the Old Testament in three volumes, in the following order : —vol. i. Genesis to Chronicles ; vol. ii. Twelve Minor Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah with Baruch, Lamentations, and Epistle of Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel (Theodotion's version), Esther with Additions Tobit, Judith, 1 Esdras 2 Esdras ( =Ezra, Nehemiah), 1, 2, 3, 4 Maccabees ; vol. iii. Psalms with Canticles, Job, Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Wisdom of Solomon, Wisdom of the Son of Sirach.

The three oldest Greek manuscripts that have the LXX, ALL have some of the Apocrypha books!

According to your reasoning, these are also Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and this makes your view HERETICAL!

I did tell you that you don't know what you are talking about, and clearly out of your depth!

Just FYI.... Augustine promoted the inspiration of the Greek OT.

Jerome really messed up. I suppose you are ultimately.... KJVOist? the KJV is full of Latin renderings that came from Jerome's Vulgate. Don't let those KJVOist liars tell you any differently.
 

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Just FYI.... Augustine promoted the inspiration of the Greek OT.

Jerome really messed up. I suppose you are ultimately.... KJVOist? the KJV is full of Latin renderings that came from Jerome's Vulgate. Don't let those KJVOist liars tell you any differently.

I am NOT KJVO

And your arguments are very WRONG

You really don't know what you are talking about
 

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Don't let those KJVOist liars tell you any differently.
You are slandering a very large group of Christians and you will answer for that. Indeed since all Christians were KJVO for about 300 years, you have slandered millions of them. Not counting the Christians since 1881, which would also probably be millions. Which shows that you have no integrity and no consideration for the truth. The very fact that you attack the King James Bible confirms that you are a minion of Satan.
 

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Just FYI.... Augustine promoted the inspiration of the Greek OT.

Jerome really messed up. I suppose you are ultimately.... KJVOist? the KJV is full of Latin renderings that came from Jerome's Vulgate. Don't let those KJVOist liars tell you any differently.

Some of the early church fathers quoted some of the apocryphal books as Scripture, are they right?

Augustine was just a man and wrong on the LXX. Jerome was right, the Original Old Testament was written in HEBREW and NOT Greek

Time for you to learn
 

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I don't care one thing about Vaticanus nor Sinaiticus. So there is no need to include them. Confine your argument against Alexandrinus.

Like I said. The NT references OT writings that include words from books you reject. For example....

Joh 10:22 And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter.

FYI.... the "festival of lights".......

You just don't know any better. You believe what you've been told. You should stop trusting anyone and find out for yourself.

Is John 10:22 inspired? Where did it come from?

No need to include the 2 oldest Greek manuscripts for the LXX? :rolleyes:
 

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You are slandering a very large group of Christians and you will answer for that. Indeed since all Christians were KJVO for about 300 years, you have slandered millions of them. Not counting the Christians since 1881, which would also probably be millions. Which shows that you have no integrity and no consideration for the truth. The very fact that you attack the King James Bible confirms that you are a minion of Satan.

Yeah. Heard that before...... God just keeps on blessing and loving me.

You are wrong. The Geneva Bible was used for a very long time. The Geneva Bible is still used today. The Geneva Bible is a much better translation than the KJV.

The KJV plagiarized the Geneva Bible. The Geneva Bible introduced the "chapter verse" distinctions that still exists today. Everything "good" about the KJV was FIRST in the Geneva.

That lying despot murder "king james" was an epic sinner who stole and claimed "God's Word" for his own.

You really should start serving the real King... Jesus Christ and forget about king james...... after all. king james is dead.
 

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Yeah. Heard that before...... God just keeps on blessing and loving me.

You are wrong. The Geneva Bible was used for a very long time. The Geneva Bible is still used today. The Geneva Bible is a much better translation than the KJV.

The KJV plagiarized the Geneva Bible. The Geneva Bible introduced the "chapter verse" distinctions that still exists today. Everything "good" about the KJV was FIRST in the Geneva.

That lying despot murder "king james" was an epic sinner who stole and claimed "God's Word" for his own.

You really should start serving the real King... Jesus Christ and forget about king james...... after all. king james is dead.

The Geneva Bible is better than the KJV. What RUBBISH

Time for you to quit your nonsense
 

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The Geneva Bible is better than the KJV. What RUBBISH

Time for you to quit your nonsense

See. You are a KJVOist. You're just lying about it. Anyone that knows the Geneva.... knows it is better than the KJV. Much better.

Why did the KJV plagiarize the Geneva Bible?

Do you support plagiarism?
 

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I know them better than you do.

Sinaiticus is of dubious origins. Vaticanus lack all the works of the Maccabees. Which means that it is missing the festival of lights.....

You should really not believe everything you Google.

So you believe that a HUMAN TRANSLATION of the Bible is Inspired by the Holy Spirit???