KJV Only?

[Berserk]

That's a slick satanic trick... when you run across a verse you don't want to accept... just claim someone
back in history add it in so you can get that warm and fuzzy feeling when you attempt to take it out.

You just can't read. It is an ancient Greek NT manuscript--not me-- that claims Aristo of Pella forged the bogus ending of Mark!
The KJV ending of Mark is missing in key early Greek manuscripts. That's just one of the reasons why the evangelical scholarly consensus recognizes 16:9-20 as a later addition to Mark's Gospel. You obviously haven't read a basic book on Text Criticism--the science of determinin g the original text of Scripture. And so, you will say practically anything to avoid dealing with the obvious fact that God's Word teaches that "tongues are NOT a sign to believers (1 Cor. 14:22)."

Let's see how the ol devil tricks you in to explaining all this away:
1 Corinthians 14:2
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh NOT unto men, but unto God: for NO MAN UNDERSTANDS HIM howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.


You keep confusing tongue as a legitimate spiritual gift with "signs" of the true believer. If you bothered to read my post, you would realize that I'm a happy tongues-speaking Penteocostal

 

[One 2 question]

God's actual Word teaches that "tongues are NOT a sign to believers (1 Cor. 14:22)."

What do you mean by 'a sign'? Or what did Paul mean by using the word 'a sign'?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

It is an ancient Greek NT manuscript--not me-- that claims Aristo of Pella forged the bogus ending of Mark!

And you have no proof any of that is true. You weren't there to witness it so you are just speculating

And you know the devil would like the great commission removed so he's obviously behind this lie.

Text Criticism--the science of determinin g the original text of Scripture

Actually it's more like listening to the devil and changing God's Word just like that so called higher criticism nonsense

"tongues are NOT a sign to believers (1 Cor. 14:22)."

I just posted that... it's one of the way non believers know we are true Christians because true Christians speak in tongues

 

[Hobie]

Precious friends, which for you?

ONE Unchanging Pure/Preserved Word Of Truth, or:

Over 100 Constantly Changing newer modern "easier-to-read/understand" versions?:

@12question?: "God is not the author of confusion"?:
What think ye?:

bible.ca/b-kjv-only . htm, claims "refuting KJV Only" by feeling that:

"Foremost, we feel that the KJV is an EXCELLENT translation, but not​

the ONLY excellent translation."​

+​

"that the KJV is to be classed as one of several major standards of​

Bible translations including, NASB, RSV, NKJV, ASV, NIV. All these ​

translations are equal in quality and all should be used for Bible​

study."​

So "going By feelings," rather than faith, as KJV Instructs (2Co 5:7),
they do not Deny that KJV Is An "Excellent" Translation, but Do doubt
that It Is God's ONE "Pure/Preserved Book", Alone, Correct?:

So, by faith then, let us prayerfully and Carefully examine the Evidence,
For "the equality of the other Five Different books," Claimed As equal to
The Pure/Preserved Word Of God (KJV), shall we?:

King James Bible 1 John 5:7:
"For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven, The Father,
The Word, And The Holy Ghost: And These Three Are One."

Which is Equal?:

NASB 1995
For there are three that testify: Not equal, Correct?
↑ ↑
Different from, or equal to each other {HOW Confusing!, eh?}?:
↓ ↓
NASB 1977
And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Not equal, Correct?

RSV
And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Not equal, Correct?

New King James Version "benefit of the doubt"?
If 'bear record' = 'bear witness', then equal? ✔ ✔, yes?:
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word,
and The Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

ASV
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Not equal, Correct?

New International Version
For there are three that testify:

Not equal, Correct?

All ( save one ) removing The Sound Doctrine Of The Triune GodHead?
=================================

Thus far we have: NASB, RSV, NKJV, ASV, NIV still equal, Correct?
Next, let's check further, with ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑, and examine additional "Evidence",
shall we, since we all 'surely' Love The Lord Jesus Christ, Correct?:

KJV "Lord Jesus Christ" (82 verses w/ 85 Occurrences)

nkjv "Lord Jesus Christ" ( 81 / 84 ) Almost? But Not equal, Correct?

KJV 2 Corinthians 2:17
"For we are not as many which corrupt The Word Of God"

nkjv
"peddling the word of God" (like the NIV, NASV and RSV)
Not equal, Correct?

KJV Isaiah 66:5
"Hear The Word of The LORD, ye that tremble at His Word; Your brethren
that hated you, that cast you out for My Name's sake, said, Let The LORD
Be Glorified: but He Shall Appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed."

[This means that the LORD Shall Appear, which shall occur at the
Second Coming of Christ.]

nkjv Not equal, Correct?:

"Hear the word of the LORD, you who tremble at His word: "Your brethren
who hated you, who cast you out for My name's sake, said, 'Let the LORD
be glorified, that we may see your joy.' But they shall be ashamed."

(Like the NIV, NASV, RSV and ASV, the Second Coming is wholly omitted
from This Scripture.) How is that Equality? Not equal, Correct?

----------------------------------------

Thus, More Evidence that confirms we are, by faith, In God!, And In:

His Unchanging Pure/Preserved KJV only/core adherents:​

Even As He Is UNchanging!:

"Jesus Christ The Same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."​

(Hebrew 13:8 KJV)​

Amen.

ps. If this sufficient Evidence Has helped any Christ-lover, then
we invite such to also be Edified And Encouraged In:

Handling The Word Of Life!

The thing is that is not KJV Only, its the Textus Receptus (Majority Text) on which the King James Version as well as most all of the other Bible versions are based before the late 1800's, and those which picked up the Alexandrian manuscripts (Minority Text), the Codex Alexandrian, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus which have been shown to have deleted and changed many parts of the text and are unreliable to say the least and purposely corrupted at some key text. Now for centuries the Textus Receptus was the standard and the KJV along with many others used it as the basis of their version:
"Tyndale New Testament 1526-1530.
"Coverdale Bible 1535.
"Matthew Bible 1537.
"Great Bible 1539.
"Geneva Bible 1560-1644.
"Bishops' Bible 1568.
My Geneva Bible is just as true to what is in the the Textus Receptus so you can go to almost every Bible in any language before the changes incorporated by the Alexandrian and they are fine.

The Textus Receptus is based on the vast majority of manuscripts still in existence. These manuscripts were what was used, and brought together by Lucian, Erasmus, Stephanus, Beza and the Elzevir brothers to form this text now known as Textus Receptus. When the Protestant Reformers decided to translate the scriptures directly from Greek into the languages of Europe, they selected Textus Receptus as their foundation Greek document and for good reason.

The Minority Text of the Alexandrian manuscripts were clearly and thoroughly useless because of the outright changes and what can only be called a corruption of the original text. Westcott & Hort picked up the Alexandrian manuscripts and created a version based on them which many of todays versions are now based on. Westcott & Hort picked up on these corrupted Alexandrian texts as they supported views prevalent in their time from Darwinism & secular humanist questioning of the validity of orthodox Christianity, if just a few verse could be altered or brought into question, it would serve their purpose, and it has as we see.

 

[Hobie]

Here is the line of the various versions which followed the reading of the Textus Receptus and you can see why the Waldensians were persecuted and their Bibles and manuscripts burned as they showed that the Roman church was not following the truth.

These versions include: The Peshitta Version (AD 150), The Italic Bible (AD 157), The Waldensian (AD 120 & onwards), The Gallic Bible (Southern France) (AD177), The Gothic Bible (AD 330-350), The Old Syriac Bible (AD 400), The Armenian Bible (AD 400 There are 1244 copies of this version still in existence.), The Palestinian Syriac (AD 450), The French Bible of Oliveton (AD 1535), The Czech Bible (AD 1602), The Italian Bible of Diodati (AD 1606), The Greek Orthodox Bible (Used from Apostolic times to the present day by the Greek Orthodox Church). [Bible Versions, D.B. Loughran]

THE OLD TESTAMENT

The Masoretic Text

1524-25 Bomberg Edition of the Masoretic Text also known as the Ben Chayyim Text

THE NEW TESTAMENT

All dates are Anno Domini (A.D.)

30-95------------Original Autographs
95-150----------Greek Vulgate (Copy of Originals)
120---------------The Waldensian Bible
150---------------The Peshitta (Syrian Copy)
150-400--------Papyrus Readings of the Receptus
157--------------The Italic Bible - From the Old Latin Vulgate used in Northern Italy
157--------------The Old Latin Vulgate
177--------------The Gallic Bible
310--------------The Gothic Version of Ulfilas
350-400-------The Textus Receptus is Dominant Text
400--------------Augustine favors Textus Receptus
400--------------The Armenian Bible (Translated by Mesrob)
400--------------The Old Syriac
450--------------The Palestinian Syriac Version
450-1450------Byzantine Text Dominant (Textus Receptus)
508--------------Philoxenian - by Chorepiscopos Polycarp, who commissioned by Philoxenos of Mabbug
500-1500------Uncial Readings of Receptus (Codices)
616--------------Harclean Syriac (Translated by Thomas of Harqel - Revision of 508 Philoxenian)
864--------------Slavonic
1100-1300----The Latin Bible of the Waldensians (History goes back as far as the 2nd century as people of the Vaudoix Valley)
1160------------The Romaunt Version (Waldensian)
1300-1500----The Latin Bible of the Albigenses
1382-1550----The Latin Bible of the Lollards
1384------------The Wycliffe Bible
1516------------Erasmus's First Edition Greek New Testament
1522------------Erasmus's Third Edition Published
1522-1534----Martin Luther's German Bible (1)
1525------------Tyndale Version
1534------------Tyndale's Amended Version
1534------------Colinaeus' Receptus
1535------------Coverdale Version
1535------------Lefevre's French Bible
1537------------Olivetan's French Bible
1537------------Matthew's Bible (John Rogers Printer)
1539------------The Great Bible
1541------------Swedish Upsala Bible by Laurentius
1550------------Stephanus Receptus (St. Stephen's Text)
1550------------Danish Christian III Bible
1558------------Biestken's Dutch Work
1560------------The Geneva Bible
1565------------Theodore Beza's Receptus
1568------------The Bishop's Bible
1569------------Spanish Translation by Cassiodoro de Reyna
1598------------Theodore Beza's Text
1602------------Czech Version
1607------------Diodati Italian Version
1611------------The King James Bible with Apocrypha between Old and New Testament
1613------------The King James Bible (Apocrypha Removed) (2)

The school in Antioch of Syria in the early Christian church that had the ancient manuscripts pf the Scriptures. The Received Text as the Majority Text (Textus Receptus) was also known, was soon translated into a old Latin version before Jeromes Latin Vulgate and was called the Italic Bible. The Vaudois (later called Waldensians) of northern Italy used the Italic Bible. The Vaudois (Waldenses) the Albigenses, the Reformers (Luther, Calvin and Knox) all held to the Received Text.

Now the "Waldensian," or "Vaudois" Bibles stretch from about 157 to the 1400s AD. The fact is, according to John Calvin's successor Theodore Beza, that the Vaudois received the Scriptures from missionaries of Antioch of Syria in the 120s AD and finished translating it into their Latin language by 157 AD. This Bible was passed down from generation, until the Reformation of the 1500s, when the Protestants translated the Vaudois Bible into French, Italian, etc. So we can see where the line was unbroken till Holt and Westcott brought in the Alexandrian corruption...

 

[Berserk]

Many Fundamentalists whine that modern translations take the Trinity out of the NT. This false claim is giggle-worthy
for 2 reasons: (1) Why, then, wouldn't they remove the trinitarian baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19-20?
(2) Ancient scribes often tried to improve on the Greek text when copying NT manuscripts. For example, consider the flagrant interpolation of the trinitarian text of 1 John 5:7-8 into manuscripts of 1 John which are then included in the KJV translation:

"Thus, there is no sure evidence of this reading in any Greek manuscript until the 1500s; each such reading was apparently composed after Erasmus’ Greek NT was published in 1516. Indeed, the reading appears in no Greek witness of any kind (either manuscript, patristic, or Greek translation of some other version) until AD 1215 (in a Greek translation of the Acts of the Lateran Council, a work originally written in Latin). This is all the more significant, since many a Greek Father would have loved such a reading, for it so succinctly affirms the doctrine of the Trinity."

Quoted from the Bible.org article, "The Textual Problem in 1 John 5:7-8"​

 

[BlessedPeace]

Wha

I wonder what version Jesus and Satan quoted to each other when God led His Beloved Son into the wilderness to be tempted by Satan

Jesus was God. He is the original, "word of God".

And Satan? He was a liar from the beginning.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Now the "Waldensian," or "Vaudois" Bibles stretch from about 157 to the 1400s AD. The fact is, according to John Calvin's successor Theodore Beza, that the Vaudois received the Scriptures from missionaries of Antioch of Syria in the 120s AD and finished translating it into their Latin language by 157 AD. This Bible was passed down from generation, until the Reformation of the 1500s, when the Protestants translated the Vaudois Bible into French, Italian, etc. So we can see where the line was unbroken till Holt and Westcott brought in the Alexandrian corruption...

Amen!:

"The Words of the LORD are Pure Words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, ​

Purified seven times. Thou Shalt Keep Them, O LORD , Thou Shalt Preserve​

Them from this generation For Ever!" (Psalm 12:6-7 AV) .... UNbroken ↑↑↑↑↑↑, eh?​

+​

Handling The Word Of Life!​

​

Amen.

 

[One 2 question]

@12question?: "God is not the author of confusion"?:
What think ye?

“I will send My fear before you, I will cause confusion among all the people to whom you come, and will make all your enemies turn their backs to you. Exodus 23:27

When the three hundred blew the trumpets, the Lord set every man’s sword against his companion throughout the whole camp; and the army fled. Judges 7:22

7 Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” 8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9 Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth. Gen 11

The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of heart. (Deuteronomy 28:28 NKJV)

You have shown Your people hard things; You have made us drink the wine of confusion. (Psalm 60:3 NKJV)

For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. (1 Corinthians 14:33 NKJV)

I think it depends on the situation. God obviously does use confusion as referenced above.

In other settings He doesn't, like when the body of Christ come together.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

I think it depends on the situation. God obviously does use confusion as referenced above.

In other settings He doesn't, like when the body of Christ come together.

Precious friend, thank you for the information - I agree, especially When "we should come
together" about which version, and then "studying to be Approved" about God's Sound
Doctrine ( Answering today's Massive Confusion, Under Grace ) From His Pure, Preserved,
Inspired, and 'Thus Profitable Word' Of Truth.

Amen.

 

[MA2444]

Precious friends, which for you?

ONE Unchanging Pure/Preserved Word Of Truth, or:

Over 100 Constantly Changing newer modern "easier-to-read/understand" versions?:

@12question?: "God is not the author of confusion"?:
What think ye?:

bible.ca/b-kjv-only . htm, claims "refuting KJV Only" by feeling that:

"Foremost, we feel that the KJV is an EXCELLENT translation, but not​

the ONLY excellent translation."​

+​

"that the KJV is to be classed as one of several major standards of​

Bible translations including, NASB, RSV, NKJV, ASV, NIV. All these ​

translations are equal in quality and all should be used for Bible​

study."​

So "going By feelings," rather than faith, as KJV Instructs (2Co 5:7),
they do not Deny that KJV Is An "Excellent" Translation, but Do doubt
that It Is God's ONE "Pure/Preserved Book", Alone, Correct?:

So, by faith then, let us prayerfully and Carefully examine the Evidence,
For "the equality of the other Five Different books," Claimed As equal to
The Pure/Preserved Word Of God (KJV), shall we?:

King James Bible 1 John 5:7:
"For There Are Three That Bear Record In Heaven, The Father,
The Word, And The Holy Ghost: And These Three Are One."

Which is Equal?:

NASB 1995
For there are three that testify: Not equal, Correct?
↑ ↑
Different from, or equal to each other {HOW Confusing!, eh?}?:
↓ ↓
NASB 1977
And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Not equal, Correct?

RSV
And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Not equal, Correct?

New King James Version "benefit of the doubt"?
If 'bear record' = 'bear witness', then equal? ✔ ✔, yes?:
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word,
and The Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

ASV
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.
Not equal, Correct?

New International Version
For there are three that testify:

Not equal, Correct?

All ( save one ) removing The Sound Doctrine Of The Triune GodHead?
=================================

Thus far we have: NASB, RSV, NKJV, ASV, NIV still equal, Correct?
Next, let's check further, with ↑ ↑ ↑ ↑, and examine additional "Evidence",
shall we, since we all 'surely' Love The Lord Jesus Christ, Correct?:

KJV "Lord Jesus Christ" (82 verses w/ 85 Occurrences)

nkjv "Lord Jesus Christ" ( 81 / 84 ) Almost? But Not equal, Correct?

KJV 2 Corinthians 2:17
"For we are not as many which corrupt The Word Of God"

nkjv
"peddling the word of God" (like the NIV, NASV and RSV)
Not equal, Correct?

KJV Isaiah 66:5
"Hear The Word of The LORD, ye that tremble at His Word; Your brethren
that hated you, that cast you out for My Name's sake, said, Let The LORD
Be Glorified: but He Shall Appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed."

[This means that the LORD Shall Appear, which shall occur at the
Second Coming of Christ.]

nkjv Not equal, Correct?:

"Hear the word of the LORD, you who tremble at His word: "Your brethren
who hated you, who cast you out for My name's sake, said, 'Let the LORD
be glorified, that we may see your joy.' But they shall be ashamed."

(Like the NIV, NASV, RSV and ASV, the Second Coming is wholly omitted
from This Scripture.) How is that Equality? Not equal, Correct?

----------------------------------------

Thus, More Evidence that confirms we are, by faith, In God!, And In:

His Unchanging Pure/Preserved KJV only/core adherents:​

Even As He Is UNchanging!:

"Jesus Christ The Same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."​

(Hebrew 13:8 KJV)​

Amen.

ps. If this sufficient Evidence Has helped any Christ-lover, then
we invite such to also be Edified And Encouraged In:

Handling The Word Of Life!

From what I can tell the KJV is pretty accurate translation. I dont mind the Shakesperian language, I was weaned on it.

My buddy bought me a NIV version so we'd have the same translation when we did phone studies together. Another Brother in Christ was my buddy and came by and told me the NIV version is missing a lot of verses. And he showed me a half dozen or more, in the KJV and nowhere to be found in the NIV...



A couple weeks later I'm on a forum and the thread is about which transkation is best. SOmebody mentioned the NIV version so I felt compelled to chime in about the missing verses. Then a Brother in Christ asked me for some examples, and I siad no problemo.

I couldnt remember any of the refrences so I called my buddy at work and he gave me some. SO I grabbed my NIV bible and looked one up that I could use as an example. Surprise! The verse was in there...WHat? It wasnt before! So I looked up another one, then anpther one and double checked them all to have my ducks in a row for the forum except they were all in there.

I didnt know what was going on. I didnt want to bug my friend at work again so I used google, NIV missing verses and hot a huge list of verses! I looked up three pf them and every verse was in that Bible! So I went down the list and kept looking them up to try to find some missing verses, or what would I say on the forum?! I had already opened my mouth and said, no problemo.

Every single supposed missing verse was in that Bible. I felt like a pinball machine (TILT). In exasperation, I closed Bible and pushed it away from me on the table...Now what?
I started to pray, Lord what's going on here?! And just as I started, my eyes went across the bible and there was my answer in big gold letters! NKJV

I went, TILT! ow I know that bible was an NIV version, it was a gift. The nicest Bible I owned, large print, given to me as a gift and it was NIV....but mow it's a NKJV....Wow.

Can I explain it? Not really. I didnt ask anything about a NKJV Bible. I flipped through it and my underlines and highlighters were still in there. I cant say why the Lord changed my NIV Bible into a NKJV but it had to be the Lord. I knew it was an NIV, and two of my friends both know it was an NIV.

Except now, it isnt! I had to conclude that the Lord endorses the NKJV! Right?! He took away my NIV and gave me a NKJV, but it was the same book! I didnt ask for that to happen. But it's one of the very few documented miracles that have 2+1 witnesses!

SO if God changed my Bible to an NKJV then I also have to conclude that, the KJV is good also. It's the first one that they put in my hand.
Take that for what you will, but I can prove it.

I use BibleGateway a lot and look at different translations regularly (and compare to what the KJV says) I found what is called the New Living Translation (NLT) and I like it a lot too. No complaints with that so far.

 

[IndianaRob]

From what I can tell the KJV is pretty accurate translation. I dont mind the Shakesperian language, I was weaned on it.

My buddy bought me a NIV version so we'd have the same translation when we did phone studies together. Another Brother in Christ was my buddy and came by and told me the NIV version is missing a lot of verses. And he showed me a half dozen or more, in the KJV and nowhere to be found in the NIV...



A couple weeks later I'm on a forum and the thread is about which transkation is best. SOmebody mentioned the NIV version so I felt compelled to chime in about the missing verses. Then a Brother in Christ asked me for some examples, and I siad no problemo.

I couldnt remember any of the refrences so I called my buddy at work and he gave me some. SO I grabbed my NIV bible and looked one up that I could use as an example. Surprise! The verse was in there...WHat? It wasnt before! So I looked up another one, then anpther one and double checked them all to have my ducks in a row for the forum except they were all in there.

I didnt know what was going on. I didnt want to bug my friend at work again so I used google, NIV missing verses and hot a huge list of verses! I looked up three pf them and every verse was in that Bible! So I went down the list and kept looking them up to try to find some missing verses, or what would I say on the forum?! I had already opened my mouth and said, no problemo.

Every single supposed missing verse was in that Bible. I felt like a pinball machine (TILT). In exasperation, I closed Bible and pushed it away from me on the table...Now what?
I started to pray, Lord what's going on here?! And just as I started, my eyes went across the bible and there was my answer in big gold letters! NKJV

I went, TILT! ow I know that bible was an NIV version, it was a gift. The nicest Bible I owned, large print, given to me as a gift and it was NIV....but mow it's a NKJV....Wow.

Can I explain it? Not really. I didnt ask anything about a NKJV Bible. I flipped through it and my underlines and highlighters were still in there. I cant say why the Lord changed my NIV Bible into a NKJV but it had to be the Lord. I knew it was an NIV, and two of my friends both know it was an NIV.

Except now, it isnt! I had to conclude that the Lord endorses the NKJV! Right?! He took away my NIV and gave me a NKJV, but it was the same book! I didnt ask for that to happen. But it's one of the very few documented miracles that have 2+1 witnesses!

SO if God changed my Bible to an NKJV then I also have to conclude that, the KJV is good also. It's the first one that they put in my hand.
Take that for what you will, but I can prove it.

I use BibleGateway a lot and look at different translations regularly (and compare to what the KJV says) I found what is called the New Living Translation (NLT) and I like it a lot too. No complaints with that so far.

I wouldn’t trust the NKJV, the translators added words to some verses that weren’t in the original language. 1 Corinthians 15:42 is a prime example.

The translators added “the body” to that verse and they didn’t footnote it either.

1 Corinthians 15:42
New King James Version
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.​

​

​

 

[One 2 question]

Precious friend, thank you for the information - I agree, especially When "we should come
together" about which version, and then "studying to be Approved" about God's Sound
Doctrine ( Answering today's Massive Confusion, Under Grace ) From His Pure, Preserved, Inspired, and 'Thus Profitable Word' Of Truth.

Amen.

For those who heard Jesus speak to them personally in their own language misinterpreted what He said more times than not. He mostly spoke in parables so that most could understand the word for word story He told but that was useless to the hearers unless the Spirit gave them spiritual ears to hear and understand the hidden meaning.

We are no different today. No matter what is spoken, it's the hidden truth that needs to be heard, understood, believed and applied where necessary.

This being the work of the Holy Ghost within us. Him Who Father sent to us Who works in us both to will and do of Father's good pleasure.

 

[One 2 question]

Precious friend, thank you for the information - I agree, especially When "we should come
together" about which version, and then "studying to be Approved" about God's Sound
Doctrine ( Answering today's Massive Confusion, Under Grace ) From His Pure, Preserved, Inspired, and 'Thus Profitable Word' Of Truth.

Amen.

Yes, I agree the scripture is profitable. But it isn't exclusively essential.

Like rice. It is profitable and can sustain life but it isn't the only source of food available to man.

Where my people come from there isn't any rice grown. We have another stape, root crops that have been very profitable but obviously not essential, yet still provided by the same Creators.

The scriptures contain some of God's thoughts and truths being one source He has provided. Again, I agree with you, it is helpful and advantageous but NOT indispensable and impossible to do without.

The only One Who is essential is a Person, the Word of God Who became a human, went to heaven and continues on dispensing truth to His creation to this very minute by His Spirit.

 

[One 2 question]

Precious friend, thank you for the information - I agree, especially When "we should come
together" about which version, and then "studying to be Approved" about God's Sound
Doctrine ( Answering today's Massive Confusion, Under Grace ) From His Pure, Preserved, Inspired, and 'Thus Profitable Word' Of Truth.

Amen.

And isn't it crazy that some have tried to close down the living Source of all truth. How arrogant and ignorant they were to try such an impossible feat. The Word of God can never be contained, limited, stopped because He is Sovereign Almighty Creator.

They termed it the closed canon. Of course these people failed terribly as the Spirit of Truth just continues to blow where ever He chooses revealing never before disclosed truths. This is truly brilliant hey.

We have the mind of the Word of God, God's Word, Christ's mind. Incredible! We (hardware) have been designed and made to be compatible with Spirit (software). So we are programmable by our Designer and Creator. The Word of God's program has been downloaded into us so we can think like our Creator. Wow! This is so incredible!! And to think that new updated are downloaded regularly enabling us to contain more new information and carry out more new tasks.

I love my Creators more and more each day as They download and reveal more of Themselves to us.

 

[MA2444]

I wouldn’t trust the NKJV, the translators added words to some verses that weren’t in the original language. 1 Corinthians 15:42 is a prime example.

The translators added “the body” to that verse and they didn’t footnote it either.

​

1 Corinthians 15:42​

New King James Version​

42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.​

​

​

​

​

My NIV was supernaturally changed into an NKJV and you want me to not trust the NKJV?

I'll take that into consideration, lol.

 

[One 2 question]

My NIV was supernaturally changed into an NKJV and you want me to not trust the NKJV?

I'll take that into consideration, lol.

Where does the Spirit of Truth come into the revelation of truth? I mean regardless of what human translation He uses. Or if all someone could do is give a paraphrase of what they remember reading from a bible years ago. Does the Spirit of Truth need a perfect quote from the KJV bible in order to convict the world of judgement to come, righteousness and sin, OR was it, sin, righteousness and judgement to come?

 

[MA2444]

Where does the Spirit of Truth come into the revelation of truth? I mean regardless of what human translation He uses. Or if all someone could do is give a paraphrase of what they remember reading from a bible years ago. Does the Spirit of Truth need a perfect quote from the KJV bible in order to convict the world of judgement to come, righteousness and sin, OR was it, sin, righteousness and judgement to come?

That's a real good point Brother. Any Translation will poin you to the knowledge of God. What translation do you have at home? Doesnt matter, it's valuable and will work to get you connected with God and then saved. Because of the Holy Spirit! When you start to read it, the Holy Spirit is there and speaking to your heart as you read. Parts of it will touch your heart and make you raise your eyebrows! Truth.

The Lord told me that He talks to us all day long 24/7. You have to condition yourself to be sensitive to His voice inside of you. If one does not pray for guidance before reading scripture, it is a mistake. To not be mindful of the Holy Spirit while reading is to not even try to hear Him. What's He sound like anyway?

Sometimes it is a scripture that pops into your head as a thought. (Heart?). Sometimes it is a thought alone, if you arent hearing Him then you will start hearing from your coscience. Do not ignore your conscience! Your conscience is like a safety valve which can speak to even unbelievers. Our conscience always know what is the right thing to do. Because...the Holy Spirit bears witness (talks to) our spirit directly so our conscience always knows the right thing to do. Everyone has a conscience and so therefore has an innate sense of right and wrong, of sin and good.

See that little kid standing by the edge of the water? Wouldnt it be funny to push him in the water?! Suddenly, a voice within you! No you dont go pushing little kids into the water! That's wrong! (See what I mean?)

I sit down in the morning and pray and then read my scriptures for the day. Take a look at the condition of my soul through scripture and the Spirit. Then confess and ask forgiveness if I need to and get connected with the Holy Spirit. Then you are set for the day as long as you stay mindful that, dont ignore Him! Speak within yourself to Him all day long. Led of the Spirit.

I wonder...you know that scripture that say, dont worry about what you will say for you will be given what to say and He shall bring to your rememberance that (which is pertinant)?

I wonder if that means that we must be the Data Entry clerk as part of our job description? How can the Holy Spirit bring something to our rememberance...if we never read the scripture in the first place?

So I started reading the Bible cover to cover. Then again, then again. I think I'm on my 5th time through it now. I read the Logos every years, 3 chapters per day give or take. It says read the scriptures daily, doesnt it? I think it does.

The word of God is priceless to us because it connects us with the Holy Spirit. This is the extra portion of duty we have as Christian Brothers & Sisters in this church age. We will miss the mark if we dont do these things. This stuff is Normal for all Christians. Normal Christianity. Paul and Moses and all those guys werent special and the only ones to be able to hear God. It is for everyone. Very very important for us in these last days!

The Lord will speak to you. But...you can't ignore him and let your soul ignore Him. Read it for yourself!

 

[JohnDB]

 

[IndianaRob]

In the last days it is said there will be many false Christs. Is it reasonable to assume these antichrists would produce false bibles?