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Bible Highlighter

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Again, none of this matters to your argument that the KJV is superintended by God. If you want to withdraw that claim, we can continue. Your statement above doesn't actually address the issue. Who cares whether the Vatican had something to do with the Neste and Aland Critical Text? What does that prove? Not a thing.

It does prove my case because the KJB was not influenced directly by the Vatican and the Modern Bibles are influenced by the Vatican whereby we can actually see the changes in the Bible itself that favors the Catholic way of thinking.
 

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I believe this is merely an uninformed opinion about the facts I have presented. Please go back and carefully weigh in all of the evidence as presented in post #170. For have you watched the two documentaries? Have you checked out my post involving the Vatican influence on Modern Bibles? Have you looked at the changed verses that favors the Vatican or the Roman Catholic church? Have you looked at my post and carefully checked out the changed doctrines? Did you see the verses that made Jesus appear to sin in Modern Bibles?
Your posts do not show changed doctrines.
 

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So then what you're saying is that you don't trust God.

Answered prayer also has conditions in that we have to obey God in order for God to answer us.

“If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.” (John 15:7).

The problem is that in Textual Criticism, the words of Jesus like Matthew 24:35 are not abiding in the Textual Critic because they don't believe those words by Jesus plainly. Granted, I am not saying God cannot answer prayer in the life of a believer in other instances, but unanswered prayer would be based upon a believer's abiding (believing / obeying) in Christ's words.
 

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It does prove my case because the KJB was not influenced directly by the Vatican and the Modern Bibles are influenced by the Vatican whereby we can actually see the changes in the Bible itself that favors the Catholic way of thinking.
It does not prove your case. In order for you to prove your case, you need testimony from a bona-fide prophet sent from God who declared that he personally superintended the production of the KJV. You can't do that. So your claim is bogus and safely ignored.
 

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My post #170 confirms this.

Your post confirms it to you. Others like me it does nothing to confirm anything other than Satan sure likes to cause division and this KJV is the only perfect word of God causes that division.

Rather than accepting that all Bibles are the word of God and His words are perfect, you have this subset of Christiandom that causes division and strife by claiming that all modern Bibles are corrupt, knowing that most Christians probably don't read the KJV.

I have said it before and will again. The KJVO or this KJV is the only perfect Bible is from the pits of hell to cause division.

Let Christians read their preferred Bible and leave them alone.
 
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Looking at evidences is not manipulation but it is merely examining the other side of the case or position to see if it is true or not. You simply do not appear to be doing that. If so, then we can simply move on from our current discussion if you are unwilling to examine the evidence fairly.
You appealed to emotion. THAT is manipulation.
 

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Answered prayer also has conditions in that we have to obey God in order for God to answer us.

“If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.” (John 15:7).

The problem is that in Textual Criticism, the words of Jesus like Matthew 24:35 are not abiding in the Textual Critic because they don't believe those words by Jesus plainly. Granted, I am not saying God cannot answer prayer in the life of a believer in other instances, but unanswered prayer would be based upon a believer's abiding (believing / obeying) in Christ's words.

Pray about it. God lead me to the NKJV. There is no doubt in my mind about that. He answered my prayer.

Maybe then you'll stop doubting God.
 

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Your posts do not show changed doctrines.

Post #170 provided a link to a list of changed doctrines. I also mentioned two additional changed doctrines that was not mentioned in the link, as well. I mentioned John 1:18, and Micah 5:2 in how some Modern Bibles falsely teach that Jesus is a second created God.

As for the link you missed: See here for the post on the doctrinal changes.

Note: In that thread, I also posted changed commands, as well.

See here for the changed commands.
 

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Pray about it. God lead me to the NKJV. There is no doubt in my mind about that. He answered my prayer.

Maybe then you'll stop doubting God.

I don't believe God answered your prayer, brother. I would encourage you to keep praying about it.

Why? Because the Bible says for us to keep praying.

“The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” (James 5:16).
 

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I don't believe God answered your prayer, brother. I would encourage you to keep praying about it.

Why? Because the Bible says for us to keep praying.

“The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” (James 5:16).

Nope.

Here's the thing. You don't get to tell me that God answered my prayer based on your bias. Just because God did something that goes against your bias, doesn't mean that He didn't answer my prayer. There is no doubt in my mind that God answered my prayer and the fact that you are trying to sew seeds of doubt is extremely telling. By the way, it won't work. As I said, I know beyond doubt that he answered my prayer.

Maybe you need to reevaluate that bias of yours.
 

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The 1611 translators ALL p;practiced and used textual criticism to make the 1611 Kjv, so all right for them but now for today?

Not so. The KJB translators employed Formal Equivalence (word for word translation). Many Modern translators today primarily employ Dynamic Equivalence instead (thought for thought). For in Modern Translation camp it's not about having the exact words of God for they believe no Bible is perfect and that they are all riddled with errors. But who gets to decide what is true or false in the Bible? Do they get to sit in the seat of God and determine what God said?

In addition, there are several NIV's, several NASB's, etcetera. They make these changes not based on us wanting to know God's Word better but solely to retain a copyright so they can make money. The different KJB editions that came along in history did not make changes to fit the needs of copyrights so that they could make more filthy lucre.
 
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Nope.

Here's the thing. You don't get to tell me that God answered my prayer based on your bias. Just because God did something that goes against your bias, doesn't mean that He didn't answer my prayer. There is no doubt in my mind that God answered my prayer and the fact that you are trying to sew seeds of doubt is extremely telling.

Maybe you need to reevaluate that bias of yours.

I am merely going off what the Bible says in regards to prayer. Do you believe what Jesus said in Matthew 24:35? Can you explain His words to me in what you think they mean?
 

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I am merely going off what the Bible says in regards to prayer. Do you believe what Jesus said in Matthew 24:35? Can you explain His words to me in what you think they mean?

Why would I do that? Because you, Bible Highlighter cannot accept that God answered my prayer and lead me to the NKJV?

Maybe it is you who needs to get down on his knees and pray fervently.
 

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You appealed to emotion. THAT is manipulation.

Are we Vulcans or robots? God does not want us to turn off our emotions because they are a part of loving others. But I do not believe the evidence I presented is biased to any kind of emotional manipulation alone. If that is the case, then you need to prove that is the case in light of ALL of the evidence I presented. But I just do not get that impression you are going to do that because you do not appear to be interested in examining all of the evidence carefully to begin with.
 
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Why would I do that? Because you, Bible Highlighter cannot accept that God answered my prayer and lead me to the NKJV?

Maybe it is you who needs to get down on his knees and pray fervently.

Because if God really answered prayer in line with John 15:7, and God's words abide in you (like Matthew 24:35), then you should explain how you believe Matthew 24:35 in your own words.
 

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Because if God really answered prayer in line with John 15:7, and God's words abide in you (like Matthew 24:35), then you should explain how you believe Matthew 24:35 in your own words.

Not a good enough answer.

See, I don't have to do what BH wants, just because BH doubts God. I will not do as you asked because you simply cannot accept that God did something against your bias.
 

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Your post confirms it to you. Others like me it does nothing to confirm anything other than Satan sure likes to cause division and this KJV is the only perfect word of God causes that division.

Rather than accepting that all Bibles are the word of God and His words are perfect, you have this subset of Christiandom that causes division and strife by claiming that all modern Bibles are corrupt, knowing that most Christians probably don't read the KJV.

I have said it before and will again. The KJVO or this KJV is the only perfect Bible is from the pits of hell to cause division.

Let Christians read their preferred Bible and leave them alone.

But what if KJB Only is in fact from GOD. You would be calling that which is good as evil. That's not good. In either case, I can see you simply do not want to discuss the topic (seeing you won't even explain Matthew 24:35 to me). If such is the case, I think it is time for me to move on from talking to you, friend. For there is no point in trying to show you something you refuse to see or discuss.
 

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Not a good enough answer.

See, I don't have to do what BH wants, just because BH doubts God. I will not do as you asked because you simply cannot accept that God did something against your bias.

Again, prayer only works when it is in line with what the Bible says. We may think God answered us, but sometimes this is not always the case. My point involving John 15:7, and a person believing Matthew 24:35 proves my point.
 

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It does not prove your case. In order for you to prove your case, you need testimony from a bona-fide prophet sent from God who declared that he personally superintended the production of the KJV. You can't do that. So your claim is bogus and safely ignored.

Proverbs 18:13
“He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.”