King of the north
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So you believe when Israel comes up out of their graves is not a resurrection.
If people coming out of their graves is not a resurrection ,then what is it?
You believe a nation being destroyed and not existing for 2000 years is not a deadly wound
Well,when the beast was healed,Jews from all over the world followed after it.A nation for them who reject Christ.
Why should I want to be taught by you?Do you believe you are God?
This arrogance of yours proves you have not received the holy Ghost.Its the holy Ghost that teaches the truth.
After Israels Muslim enemies attack and kill the king of the norths armed forces in Israel and overwhelm Israel as in zech 14:1-2,Luke 21:24 ,revelation 11 :7 and Daniel 11:40,then the king of the north will use his vast military to destroy and devastate everything from Iran to Egypt.It takes place on the day of the Lord when the heavens shake and goes dark.The earth quakes and pestilence kills hundreds of millions of Israels enemies who try to wipe them all out.Armegeddon.Aftwr the middle east is destroyed and all the sinners removed from the land ,the land is given to Israel .The resurected saints who died for their testimony of Jesus and who did not worship the beast or it's image.
Daniel 11:40-44
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
So you believe Clinton invaded Iraq and took prisoners to Cuba and afterward Bush moved into the Whitehouse and raised taxes.
I don't think that is what actually happened.I don't believe Clinton did any of these things before the raiser of taxes moved into the White House.
Daniel 11
15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.
16 But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.
17 He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.
18 After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.
19 Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.
20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
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The Light
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No, I believe you are not reading carefully enough. Bush is the raiser of taxes, that's clear enough, and read my lips on that. The Word does not say the next guy is the vile person that shall not give honor to the kingdom.........it says in his estate shall stand up a vile person.....................
You incorrectly add chronology when none is implied. It says "in his estate" There is no idication that it is the next person in the estate.
Daniel 11
20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
That's Reagan. THEN comes the raiser of taxes.
The Light
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The only country Reagan invaded was Geneva .If you think Geneva will attack the US and cause the US to invade and destroy the middle east,id say that is a far-fetched theory.
Besides,Daniel 11 is about the promised land and events that take place in that kingdom.The Beirut bombing is in there though.
BarneyFife
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There is no established hermeneutical model that requires understanding of original languages to correctly interpret Bible prophecy and folks who don't understand it should not be considered mentally ill. I'm sure it's hyperbole but it's probably not a good way to persuade people to agree with your interpretations.
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There is no established hermeneutical model that requires understanding of original languages to correctly interpret Bible prophecy and folks who don't understand it should not be considered mentally ill. I'm sure it's hyperbole but it's probably not a good way to persuade people to agree with your interpretations.
:)
The Light
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Reagan invaded the Island of Grenada, not Geneva.
Let's look at the text below and see which theory is more farfetched.
Daniel 11
17 He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.
The upright ones were with Reagan. The churches voted for Reagan even though Carter was a Baptist.
Reagans daughter would not stand with him and did not vote for him.
Which king of the North do you think the above verses fit?
Daniel 11
18 After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.
Reagan supported the retaking of the South Georgia Islands and the Falkland Islands by Great Britan and invaded the Island of Grenada.
Which king of the north invaded any Islands that you are aware of?
Additionally, Oliver North was a prince on behalf of Reagan, that caused reproach to turn upon him with the Iran Contra scandal.
How do the above verses fit your King of the North?
And the raiser of taxes was George Bush Sr.
Daniel 11
19 Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.
20 Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
So you said that my explanation was farfetched. I would like to see your explanation of the above verses in Daniel 11.
The king of the north and king of the south has three wars in Daniel 11.
The first is here.
Daniel 11
11 And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand.
The second war is when the king of the north returns here .
Daniel 11
13 For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches.
14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.
15 So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.
16 But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.
That is two wars the king of the north had with the king of the south.Both those wars is talking about Bush/Bush verses Saddam.
The Light
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So I see you were unable to answer any of the questions that I asked. That should tell YOU something.
Here's another question that you won't be able to answer. What is the vision that the robbers of Daniels people were trying to establish?
Daniel 12
14 And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.
Me not telling you the two separate wars in which the king of the north and south have had tells you nothing because I told you nothing.
Reagan didn't have two wars against the same king.
What Reagan did have to deal with was his fortress was attacked and many soldiers died on that day.You skipped that verse for some unknown reason.
The Light
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It tells me, you don't know who the king of the south is.
Yeah. But the king of the North did.
The king of the north is a succession of different people. There is Reagan and then the raiser of taxes which is George Bush Sr. And there is a vile person that will stand up in that estate....the Antichrist.
And I see you could not answer the question of what vision was the king of the south trying to establish.
Yes there is a succession .
Reagans fortress was attacked.
Bush Sr invaded Iraq
Bush jr invaded Iraq and took many to an island
Obama raised taxes
And the vile man who enjoys sexually assaulting women and brags about it is Trump.
What was that part of a woman Trump said he likes to grab?
Can you answer that question?
The Light
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Wrong again.
Daniel 11
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
The only thing you are right about is who the king of the north is. But the Antichrist is not Trump.
So what is the vision that the king of the south was trying to establish?
You have no answers to any of the questions I asked.
Trump does not regard the desire of women
He cheats on his wife every chance he gets. Sexually assaults women..
Do you believe that is what women desire Light?
You believe all women want to be grabbed by their .....?
Such a vile man.
You didn't answer my question
What part of a woman's body did the vile despicable man say he grabs?
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