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covenantee

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No He loved them and died for them He just hated what they were doing, remember evan Paul was persecuting the church.

Luke 23:34
Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up His garments by casting lots.
True. But they still denied and rejected Him.

They could not in their condition "escape the damnation of hell".
 

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Yes and even killed Him but He still didn't hate them it gave Him no joy to see them perish
The Romans crucifying Jesus at the cross did not know what they were doing, and it was for them that Jesus interceded.

The Pharisees and Jewish leaders certainly did know what they were doing.

They could not in their condition "escape the damnation of hell".
 
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The Romans crucifying Jesus at the cross did not know what they were doing, and it was for them that Jesus interceded.

The Pharisees and Jewish leaders certainly did know what they were doing.

They could not in their condition "escape the damnation of hell".

Yes of course, in their condition they couldn't and some of them knew what they were doing that's not the point here my point was that Jesus didn't hate them and like Paul they could of repented.

This is why in the next verse Jesus said "34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. " They were still sent to Israel and many believed just like Paul.
 

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Yes of course, in their condition they couldn't and some of them knew what they were doing that's not the point here my point was that Jesus didn't hate them and like Paul they could of repented.

This is why in the next verse Jesus said "34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. " They were still sent to Israel and many believed just like Paul.
Of course those who repented would be saved.

But those who did not would experience the consequences of their rejection falling physically upon themselves.

In hell.

Jesus expressed His hatred for their sin and for them: "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers".
 
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My Home is in Israel,
Brother, the Prophetic Word says the Lord will clear and cleanse all of the holy land. My advice is for you to get out as soon as possible.
Jesus was talking about apostate Israel in His days not the people of Israel today
How are they different? Their curse; Matthew 27:25 still applies.
I know there is a few Messianic Jews, They may survive by hiding underground. Isaiah 29:1-4
The rest will not; Ezekiel 22:1-7, Jeremiah 10:18, Isaiah 22:14
 

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Watch Jerusalem, not Israel because it will be the USA and Europe that’s going to be surrounded.

Two different places will be surrounded? Surrounded by whom? What prophecy is this from?
 

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Sounds like Replacement Theology.


It's British Israelism. It's the belief that white/Caucasian people are people in the OT known as Israel. Not that they replaced anyone but that they are the literal descendants of the 12 tribes.
 
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It's British Israelism. It's the belief that white/Caucasian people are people in the OT known as Israel. Not that they replaced anyone but that they are the literal descendants of the 12 tribes.
No one can deny that the 10 Northern tribes of Israel still exist. God knows who and where they are; Amos 9:9
Jesus came to save them, Matthew 15:24 and we Christians are His successful result. The Overcomers for God; His true Israelites.
 

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The blood of the Messiah covers all, what must they do to be saved?
Peter answered this to them long ago…

“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and they said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.” Acts 2:36
 
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Thats nothing to do about loving them or not anyone who perishes will be not be surprised or blame God it was their doing
Of course it was their doing. No one is saying otherwise. They rejected God's love, and must suffer the consequence. Hell.
 
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