Is The World Flat?

[James Forthwright]

Another interesting video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZP_VZ_Ehvk

 

[StanJ]

The effect of gravity seems to be the catch-all answer of the globists. Gravity somehow keeps trillions of tons of ocean water adhereing to the spinning, revolving ball but is easily overcome with a few wing strokes of a butterfly. What doesn't fit your explanation is why the plane will continue to fly flat & level no matter how much thrust is supplied by the engines.

It is the law that God created. In effect you disbelieving In gravity just means you disbelieve that God created gravity. So I asked you, if God didn't create gravity who created it or do you think the gravity doesn't exist and you're just sitting at your desk typing this stuck to it by glue?
You apparently also don't understand the laws of aerodynamics but I guess I'm not surprised seeing as though you think the Earth is flat.
BTW a plan doesn't continue to fly flat and level, it's governed by its autopilot which keeps the horizon level at all times. The plane maintains it's altitude based on computerization and slight alterations in the flight path that keep it level with the horizon. If you've ever been in a cockpit you would know that but it sounds to me like you've never even taken a flight in your life. You also apparently don't believe any of the astronauts that are returned from circling the earth hundreds of times. The Bible tells us to have faith and that's a good thing, but it doesn't tell us to have blind faith, nor does it tell us to be blind to what God has actually created in the things that we can see with the eyes He also created. I could post thousands of videos and articles about the reality of our world as a globe but it's very obvious that you've made up your mind not to be educated. How someone arrives at your age and doesn't know the actual condition of the environment they live in is beyond my comprehension, but the Earth is not.

 

[StanJ]

http://creation.com/the-flat-earth-myth-and-creationism

 

[StanJ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGRRxOf6dU

 

[StanJ]

Another interesting video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZP_VZ_Ehvk

Only if you are into science fiction.

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[mjrhealth]

will continue to fly flat & level no matter how much thrust is supplied by the engines.

Hmm wel lit seems you know nothing about flight. For one planes are only certifed to certain heights. Once they reach a ceratin point called coffin corner, you have little hope. As a plane climbs the air gets thinner so it needs more power to climb, see previous. If you put a plane in level flight and trim in for that in perfect no wind weather. Than increase power it will climb, and wil do so, but as it gets higher the amount of thrust required due to air density is greate. so it will slow down in teh climb and will either level out or fall out of the sky if it doesnt ge tenough power.

But than you cant argue with......

But than ignorance has always being mans excuse for st....ty.

You know there are scientist in this world who come up with theories, and will persue there whole life trying to prove it right, even when faced with teh insermountable evidence that says it is wrong and will die wasting there time, than there are those who look for the evidence, if proven wrong well they have enough sense to get a life and look at something else.

 

[mjrhealth]

Here's a short Rob Skiba video concerning the motivation for teaching the globe earth model instead of Flat Earth:

Still waiting for the selfie of the flat earth person falling of the edge of the world???? You game....

 

[mjrhealth]

And a really simple one. Draw a 5" circle. On the circle draw a one inch line. imagin if you where in a plane at the heaight of that line. Draw a line from teh top of the line to teh edge of the circle, That is teh limit of you vision, which is a circle because the wotld is round. Know draw a one inch line of a flat line. Guess what, if the world was flat on a clear day, you should see the end, since there is no curve you vision range would be only limited by you eyesight, and by rights with a telescope you should be able to see the edge of the world. you cant, can you... cause there aint one. Could you plese send me a photo of a ship falling off the end of the world, I would love one to hang up.

Oh and by teh way, i dont believe every one. Shoul look for the song, "its a strange strange world master jack" written in teh 60s. Shoudl be my theme song. By the 4 jacks and a Jill

 

[lforrest]

If the world were flat things would tend to roll towards the center of gravity. Reaching the end of the world would be like climbing a mountain that gets steeper and steeper.

The edge of the disk of the world would receive no sunlight. Large temperature differences between the day and night side would cause high winds over the edge.

 

[Barrd]

I'm out for a month, and we are still discussing this?

I do hope someone thought to feed the turtles...

 

[StanJ]

I'm out for a month, and we are still discussing this?
I do hope someone thought to feed the turtles...

Well JF revised this one after 6 months and I couldn't resist as it has been getting slow here. You'll also noticed we have a bunch of newbies since you've been away, and they have been reviving a lot of old threads. Always good to get new perspectives to see if the old ones still hold water.

 

[forrestcupp]

You guys know he's just trolling you, right?

 

[James Forthwright]

If the world were flat things would tend to roll towards the center of gravity. Reaching the end of the world would be like climbing a mountain that gets steeper and steeper.

The edge of the disk of the world would receive no sunlight. Large temperature differences between the day and night side would cause high winds over the edge.

Ah... finally someone is using independent thought to evaluate the premise. Very good lforrest! You raise some interesting questions/explanations.

1. Gravity - barring air resistance all objects will fall at the same rate, i.e., 9.81 m/s^2 to the center of gravity. Your assumption that gravity at the perimeter of a flat earth (FE) would be more intense doesn't necessarily have to be true in a flat earth model. There could still be more mass below the disk-shaped earth replicating the exact same gravity conditions on the globe earth model. Possibly, God has placed the pillars of the earth (1Sam 2:8, Job 9:6) Hades & the waters below to create such a force upon the surface.

2. Interestingly enough your lack of sunlight, large temperature difference (day and night) and the presence of high winds does correlate nicely with the FE model. What the FE theorists claim is that the North Pole is the center of the earth disk (picture the UN flag) and instead of Antarctica being a continent at the South Pole, the entire circle of the earth is surrounded at the perimeter by an immeasurable wall of ice and barren, inhospitable wasteland which is commonly referred to as Antarctica. "The temperature in Antarctica has reached −89.2 °C (−128.6 °F), though the average for the third quarter (the coldest part of the year) is −63 °C (−81 °F)." --Wikipedia

 

[James Forthwright]

Well JF revised this one after 6 months and I couldn't resist as it has been getting slow here. You'll also noticed we have a bunch of newbies since you've been away, and they have been reviving a lot of old threads. Always good to get new perspectives to see if the old ones still hold water.

As previously stated, I've only been investigating the Flat Earth model for a few weeks now and haven't fully committed to the idea. . . yet.
Though the more I look into the subject the more I tend to see merits to the theory (and gaping holes in the globe model). There are numerous areas that I still have doubts and many unanswered questions. One can't expect anyone to toss aside a lifetime of indoctrination in such a short time period. I'm merely taking the pro-FE position to stimulate the discussion in this forum and to see if I can convince myself (as well of others) of its veracity. I was pleasantly surprised to find that Angelina (a moderator) had initially broached the subject.

 

[Barrd]

You guys know he's just trolling you, right?

Does this mean you won't help me feed the turtles, then?

 

[James Forthwright]

Does this mean you won't help me feed the turtles, then?

Sure, I'd gladly help you feed the turtles, unless they are Computer Generated Turtles.

 

[James Forthwright]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGRRxOf6dU

Interesting video, Stan. However, much of what PressResetRadio stated was incorrect or inconclusive. I found it very illuminating that he unequivocally stated that NASA's photos of the earth are bunk and they are prone to repeatedly lie to us. The comments were more enlightening than the video itself (and it's interesting that PressResetRadio disabled the like/dislike function). The Coriolis Effect is more myth than science. You won't find it in a military manual. You'll also find testimony from pilots who swear they can see the curvature of the earth and others say it's flat. His moon looks different in each hemisphere premise can be refuted quite easily. Tack a picture to the ceiling and it will also appear upside down if you look at it in opposite directions.

A very interesting phenomenon that refutes the supposition that the moon reflects the light of the sun: a number of folks have placed an object half in the moonlight and half in the shade. Using a digital laser temperature device, contrary to what you might think, the half in the moonlight is COLDER that the portion in the shade. It appears that the moon radiates it's own light with different characteristics than the sun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6TJvAGES0U

 

[Barrd]

Sure, I'd gladly help you feed the turtles, unless they are Computer Generated Turtles.

The earth is sitting on the back of a giant turtle, didn't you know?
And before you ask me what the giant turtle is standing on, I will tell you...it is turtles all the way down....

 

[mjrhealth]

You guys know he's just trolling you, right?

Yes but its fun, so off topic to be in another dimension.

I guess teh other problem with the flat earth theory it that cyclones would not rotate in different direction in N and S hemispheres, for they will all be on teh same flat plane and have nothing to stop them going either way(if teh world wasnt turning) or always teh same way (if it was)

 

[lforrest]

It is fun to think about such things, would it be better if the earth were cylindrical? You would have a consistent exposure to the sun everywhere, because the angle of incidence which causes the seasons wouldn't change based on ladditude.

In regards to gravity the simplified concept of objects accelerating towards their centers of mass is insufficient. It is necessary to integrate the differential equation of gravimetric force vectors in 3 dimensions. Since gravity is a function of specific mass over distance squared. If you do the math I'm sure the Force vectors would approach some steep angle towards the end, because there is mass on one side of the ledge but not the other.