Is observation of the Sabbath day a requirement for Christians?

[post]

I accuse you of nothing. I rebuke you when necessary and condemn the false doctrines you teach. God is your Judge, not me.

Previously discussed.
Baseless false accusations.

Dismissed.

 

[Phoneman777]

Previously discussed.

Slander and demonstrable heresy predicated on false, godless, humanist, vain, works-based, supposed righteousness by which no one can possibly be justified before God.
See Romans 3-5.

The security of our salvation is the glory of God.
See Hebrews 10.

Dismissed.

Condemnation of one's false doctrine is not the same as condemnation of that one. You're leftist, emotion-based reasoning is on full display by that.

 

[Phoneman777]

Previously discussed. See Romans 7

Dismissed

Hey, the law isn't injured if you don't fully flesh out what you preach. Credibility, on the other hand...

 

[Phoneman777]

Oh, ¿estas despertando?

Yes, Post, the nonsense of OSAS apparently sounds reasonable when it bounces around your brain, but is revealed as the nonsense it is when your ears hear it coming out of your mouth, right?

 

[Robert Gwin]

No...you are completely under the wrong impression.

The scriptures show that you are wrong, that God sends those of His choosing with "absolute truth"...referred to as "My servants the prophets." And "all truth" is not a pie in the sky fantasy, but a promise for our times.

You have a choice to make.

Great Scott (no pun intended Mr Wilson Like), show me who has 100% truth and I am heading that way sir.

 

[Robert Gwin]

the Christian is not under the law. see Romans 1-8 & basically all of Galatians & Hebrews.
the term "the law" specifically includes the 10 commandments - they are not separate from the law. see Romans 7:7

do i keep sabbath, yes -- what semblance i can. the law demands certain sabbath-specific sacrifices in the temple and there being no temple there can be no absolute sabbath keeping. the one under "the law" is sorely disgraced, irreconcilably, because the law requires temple services and visitation during the feast.
so in truth does anyone "keep sabbath" according to the law?
no. impossible.

yes i try to keep sabbath. i set aside saturdays and do no work other than what anyone asks of me. if my employer asks of me, i make myself his servant, as our Lord did for us. if anyone asks me to go a mile on sabbath, i go two. this is rest. i rest in Christ, in Whom are all my streams, from Whom all of my life flows, without Whom i am nothing. i have absolute rest; i am not under condemnation of the law or of anything else, but have passed from death to life by His grace, through faith: faith in Him, in His faithfulness towards me, in His work.

do i keep sabbath because i think it is required.
no. it is not.
all that is required is faith, which is concurrent with repentance, which the answer of God towards is renewal, which produces works, which no one but God is able to judge if they exist or not.
i keep sabbath because i remember it is God who sanctifies me - has sanctified me, with one perfect sacrifice. see Hebrews 10. it is my gift of worship to Him, freely given, uncoerced, undemanded. not of law, which is not of faith, therefore is sin - but of love. see Romans 14:23 & Galatians 3:12

do i have any doubt about my salvation? no.
do i obey the commandments in Colossians 2? yes.
i will adamantly, scripturally, completely oppose anyone who seeks to judge me or other believers on the basis of feasts, foods, new moons or sabbaths. with the strength of God, Who is invincible.

the accuser of the brethren is Satan.
those who accuse the saints are partner with him, doing his will.

I appreciate your honesty, of course Christian law contains 9 or those 10 commandments still. I fully agree it is impossible to keep the Sabbath, you have correctly chosen the day, but were you aware it starts Friday night at dusk? You openly admit you violate it, and rightly stated since it is impossible to keep, everybody does, so if the Sabbath law is in effect for Christians, none of us will be saved because those who violate the Sabbath under the law covenant were to be put to death.

 

[Robert Gwin]

even before the crucifixion Christ revealed Himself to a gentile woman and told her worship at the temple in Jerusalem was not required -- thereby setting aside the law. John 4.

because He is THE AUTHOR He has that authority, and exercised it.

remember Naaman the Syrian. he never went through Leviticus 14, but he was made clean.

It remained in Law until his death Post. It was a requirement until then. I am sure that your usual exceptions were in place however.

 

[ScottA]

Great Scott (no pun intended Mr Wilson Like), show me who has 100% truth and I am heading that way sir.

As I said, His servants the prophets. His sheep hear His voice.

 

[Robert Gwin]

As I said, His servants the prophets. His sheep hear His voice.

Exactly! However his sheep make mistakes, and even among them many falsehoods get relayed. Although unfortunate I knew you wouldn't be able to, as not even God's people at this time have absolute truth. When will we? When the Kingdom comes, we will be taught absolute truth, however I would quite imagine that until we reach perfect status, which should be near the end of the millennial reign of Christ we may not have absolute truth yet. I really don't know it will be interesting to see how it unfolds Scott.

 

[ScottA]

Exactly! However his sheep make mistakes, and even among them many falsehoods get relayed. Although unfortunate I knew you wouldn't be able to, as not even God's people at this time have absolute truth. When will we? When the Kingdom comes, we will be taught absolute truth, however I would quite imagine that until we reach perfect status, which should be near the end of the millennial reign of Christ we may not have absolute truth yet. I really don't know it will be interesting to see how it unfolds Scott.

Well...you are 2,000 years behind:

Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
​

Why do you need to die before moving forward to what has already been true for so long? And how can we have an accurate and truthful conversation until you do? Did you not actually want to seek the Truth?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Well...you are 2,000 years behind:

Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
​

Why do you need to die before moving forward to what has already been true for so long? And how can we have an accurate and truthful conversation until you do? Did you not actually want to seek the Truth?

Strange the world is the way it is since God's kingdom came 2 millenniums ago Scott. Again I stress you are in for a big surprise.

 

[ScottA]

Strange the world is the way it is since God's kingdom came 2 millenniums ago Scott. Again I stress you are in for a big surprise.

What surprise?

I ask, because you tell me "2 millenniums ago" only after you had it wrong and I corrected you. Now, shall you correct me when it was I who corrected you?

 

[Robert Gwin]

What surprise?

I ask, because you tell me "2 millenniums ago" only after you had it wrong and I corrected you. Now, shall you correct me when it was I who corrected you?

Time of course will tell Scott.

 

[ScottA]

Time of course will tell Scott.

Unfortunately that is not the order of the day, but that we should hear His voice and turn from our various doctrines making straight the way of the Lord unto all truth. It was not appointed to us to wait upon the Lord unto the grave, but to rule and reign until the end, until that time which no one knows. Do we wait then until the passing of the flesh, or go to Galilee taking nothing for the journey and meet Him among the gentiles?

 

[Robert Gwin]

Unfortunately that is not the order of the day, but that we should hear His voice and turn from our various doctrines making straight the way of the Lord unto all truth. It was not appointed to us to wait upon the Lord unto the grave, but to rule and reign until the end, until that time which no one knows. Do we wait then until the passing of the flesh, or go to Galilee taking nothing for the journey and meet Him among the gentiles?

We "wait" as we cannot change Jehovah's plan. His judgment will come exactly on time, we simply pray for it. However, we are not stagnant in that waiting Scott. Christians were given an assignment of which they live their lives around, and that is to teach others to observe all the things Jesus commanded. We are very active, as you observe me doing right now sir. I would bet any amount that I am not the first witness who has bore testimony to you, we continue to reach out, until God says the work is finished.

 

[ScottA]

We "wait" as we cannot change Jehovah's plan. His judgment will come exactly on time, we simply pray for it. However, we are not stagnant in that waiting Scott. Christians were given an assignment of which they live their lives around, and that is to teach others to observe all the things Jesus commanded. We are very active, as you observe me doing right now sir. I would bet any amount that I am not the first witness who has bore testimony to you, we continue to reach out, until God says the work is finished.

It is the flesh that waits, but the spirit that says "Come."

Deuteronomy 25:13
“You shall not have in your bag differing weights, a heavy and a light.​

 

[Robert Gwin]

It is the flesh that waits, but the spirit that says "Come."

Deuteronomy 25:13
“You shall not have in your bag differing weights, a heavy and a light.​

Amen! The spirit says come and take life's waters free. Those waters is God's word sir.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Previously discussed.

Transparently false eisegesis with the singular goal of attempting to accuse the children of God, in service of Satan, in order to destroy faith.

1 John 5:3 is not isolated from 1 John 5:2 & 5:4

Agape is the noun form of agapao.
Fact.

Dismissed.

This made me look at verse 4 - And his commands are not burdensome, 4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world.

It kind of blew me away. What a promise…! What an encouragement for the times you become weary waiting for God and begin again to have the harassing thoughts: I must DO something, why do I not see victory, I must be doing something wrong to just wait for Him…

Another good promise that goes with it: after you have struggled a while, God will strengthen, confirm and establish you.

What amazing promises for when you’re so weary and close to fainting and leaving your rest and trust in Him to try to bring the child of Gods promise by your own working!