Is observation of the Sabbath day a requirement for Christians?

[post]

There is none who does good.
The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men,
to see if there are any who understand, who seek God.
They have all turned aside,
they have together become corrupt;
there is none who does good,
no, not one.
(Psalm 14:1-3)​

a mess.

i thank God daily for His many blessings & great patience toward us

 

[post]

simply trusting Jesus.

amen.

would that you would, also

see Psalm 146:3 & Romans 9:16

 

[post]

retract your disproven claim

previously discussed, & slander.

i claim God is mighty to save to the uttermost, and will not fail.
you claim salvation is your own work, and that God fails.

see Zephaniah 3:17, Hebrews 7:25 & 2 Timothy 2:13

dismissed.

 

[post]

I don't

how's your day going?

nicely, i hope.

=]

 

[post]

@Robert Gwin

other.

John 4 clearly occurs before the crucifixion.

therein thus saith the LORD:

neither on this mountain nor some other, but in spirit and in truth.
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God created math; therefore do the math =]

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[Robert Gwin]

It is true that two opinions only accomplish disagreement. But the interpretation of scripture belongs to God:

Genesis 40:8
And they said to him, “We each have had a dream, and there is no interpreter of it.” So Joseph said to them, “Do not interpretations belong to God? Tell them to me, please.”

1 Corinthians 12:10
to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:26
How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.
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As I said, I have not been giving you my opinion.

God reveals through the faithful slave correct Scott? Mat 24:45-47 If not what is the function of the faithful slave? Believe me not one individual has absolute truth on earth, yes sir, anything you say might be correct, might not be, therefore it is an opinion, even though it might be factual.

 

[Robert Gwin]

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@Robert Gwin

other.

John 4 clearly occurs before the crucifixion.

therein thus saith the LORD:

neither on this mountain nor some other, but in spirit and in truth.
​

God created math; therefore do the math =]

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Sorry Post, I did not understand your answer

 

[Phoneman777]

slander.

dismissed.

Slander has to do with false criticism of a person, not accurate characterization of a false belief within Christianity.

OSAS was a License to Sin(Ezekiel 13:22 KJV), is and License to Sin (Jude 1:4 KJV), and will cease to be one when Jesus comes back.

 

[ScottA]

God reveals through the faithful slave correct Scott? Mat 24:45-47 If not what is the function of the faithful slave? Believe me not one individual has absolute truth on earth, yes sir, anything you say might be correct, might not be, therefore it is an opinion, even though it might be factual.

No...you are completely under the wrong impression.

The scriptures show that you are wrong, that God sends those of His choosing with "absolute truth"...referred to as "My servants the prophets." And "all truth" is not a pie in the sky fantasy, but a promise for our times.

You have a choice to make.

 

[Phoneman777]

previously discussed. at great length for years.
slanderous, satanic false accusations against the saints of God predicated on heretical, Christless, false soteriology wholly dependent on works of the flesh.

dismissed.

do you have anything to talk about other than this hatred for the grace of God?

When grace is turned into a License to Sin, it's not grace, but DISGRACE.

 

[Phoneman777]

see Romans 3, Luke 17:10, Luke 18:10-14 & Ezekiel 16:49

blasphemy; dismissed.

When we take hold of Jesus, we take hold of our right to the Tree of Life.

"Blessed are they which do His commandments, that THEY MAY HAVE A RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE and may enter into the gates to the city."

 

[Phoneman777]

slander. previously discussed.

dismissed.

Why can't you tell us which of the Ten Commandments we're free to break since we're not obligated to keep them?

Jesus says if we love Him, we'll keep His commandments and John says "agape" is demonstrated by keeping them. Don't you won't to be an obedient Christian instead of rebelling like the archrebel did and got kicked out of heaven?

 

[Phoneman777]

previously discussed.
see John 10:28

dismissed.

Yes, if mortal man can vow AND KEEP THAT VOW to be faithful to a spouse for an entire lifetime of marriage, why do people like you argue how difficult it is to remain faithful to a Divine God Who gave Himself to save us?

Only one reason a person needs a driver's license: to drive.
Only one reason a person needs a fishing license: to fish.
Only one reason a person needs a OSAS License to Sin: you guessed it.

 

[Phoneman777]

amen.

would that you would, also

see Psalm 146:3 & Romans 9:16

Trusting Jesus for what? To save you FROM your sin or IN our sin?

You can trust Him until the end of time to save you in your sin, but it's simply never going to happen.

 

[Phoneman777]

previously discussed, & slander.

i claim God is mighty to save to the uttermost, and will not fail.
you claim salvation is your own work, and that God fails.

see Zephaniah 3:17, Hebrews 7:25 & 2 Timothy 2:13

dismissed.

Even a physically blind man can see the wicked can't partake of God's agape because agape is demonstrated by happily keeping God's commandments (1 John 5:3 KJV; Romans 8:7 KJV).

But the spiritually blind can't see anything.

You keep trying to make the verb "agapeo" be equal to the divine noun "agape" because you fail to see that "agape" is the specific kind of love with which we are to "agapeo" one another. It's impossible for the wicked to demonstrate "agape" by happily keeping God's commandments, and is why you won't find a single verse attributing "agape" to the wicked.

 

[post]

Sorry Post, I did not understand your answer

the Christian is not under the law. see Romans 1-8 & basically all of Galatians & Hebrews.
the term "the law" specifically includes the 10 commandments - they are not separate from the law. see Romans 7:7

do i keep sabbath, yes -- what semblance i can. the law demands certain sabbath-specific sacrifices in the temple and there being no temple there can be no absolute sabbath keeping. the one under "the law" is sorely disgraced, irreconcilably, because the law requires temple services and visitation during the feast.
so in truth does anyone "keep sabbath" according to the law?
no. impossible.

yes i try to keep sabbath. i set aside saturdays and do no work other than what anyone asks of me. if my employer asks of me, i make myself his servant, as our Lord did for us. if anyone asks me to go a mile on sabbath, i go two. this is rest. i rest in Christ, in Whom are all my streams, from Whom all of my life flows, without Whom i am nothing. i have absolute rest; i am not under condemnation of the law or of anything else, but have passed from death to life by His grace, through faith: faith in Him, in His faithfulness towards me, in His work.

do i keep sabbath because i think it is required.
no. it is not.
all that is required is faith, which is concurrent with repentance, which the answer of God towards is renewal, which produces works, which no one but God is able to judge if they exist or not.
i keep sabbath because i remember it is God who sanctifies me - has sanctified me, with one perfect sacrifice. see Hebrews 10. it is my gift of worship to Him, freely given, uncoerced, undemanded. not of law, which is not of faith, therefore is sin - but of love. see Romans 14:23 & Galatians 3:12

do i have any doubt about my salvation? no.
do i obey the commandments in Colossians 2? yes.
i will adamantly, scripturally, completely oppose anyone who seeks to judge me or other believers on the basis of feasts, foods, new moons or sabbaths. with the strength of God, Who is invincible.

the accuser of the brethren is Satan.
those who accuse the saints are partner with him, doing his will.

 

[post]

agape

My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.
(John 15:12)​

love = agapao, not agape
have loved = agapao, not agape.

dismissed.

previously discussed in excruciating detail;
you have no legitimate argument to destroy our faith in God.

sad.

 

[post]

it's simply never going to happen

slander.

see 1 Thessalonians 5:24 & 2 Thessalonians 3:3

dismissed.

 

[post]

OSAS

previously discussed.

predicated on a false, Christless soteriology of human works & willpower.

dismissed.

 

[post]

which of the Ten Commandments we're free to break

previously discussed.
slanderous false & meaningless charges against those who trust God.
your spurious accusations are the work of Belial, see Revelation 12:10

see Romans 1-8.

dismissed.