"if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire"

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Do you believe Jesus's statement? And do you believe that those sent to "the hell[d] of fire" remain there FOREVER?

Matthew 5:22
22 But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister,[a] you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister,[c] you will be liable to the council; and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire.
 
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If it weren't true Jesus wouldn't have said it. However, it doesn't mean everyone who says such things DEFINITELY goes to Hell. Like blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, it is something that puts you in danger of Hellfire but doesn't completely mean you are damned if you do it.
 
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If it weren't true Jesus wouldn't have said it. However, it doesn't mean everyone who says such things DEFINITELY goes to Hell. Like blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, it is something that puts you in danger of Hellfire but doesn't completely mean you are damned if you do it.

I don't doubt Jesus's statement but I doubt that a faltering follower of Christ is forever damned because they called someone a "fool".
 
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Do you believe Jesus's statement?

Yes, and noting IN CONTEXT…
Brothers and Sisters ARE Brothers and Sisters “IN” Christ…
Calling them a “FOOL” is Personal to their Being, and is in context of them being “A FOOL” for having submitted unto the Lord God.

And that is different than calling someone FOOLISH, which is in application to a BEHAVIOR, or having rejected the Lord God.

And do you believe that those sent to "the hell[d] of fire" remain there FOREVER?

Yes that is their Eternal Abode…But…to remember, what (regarding a human) is sent to the Lake of Fire….
IS a LIFELESS body,
IS a LIFELESS soul,
and their natural “spirit”, (ie natural truth in their heart)….(since their spirit was NOT born again from Gods SEED).
and IS BURNT UP, (and become ash / dust) and remembered no more.

Matthew 5:22
22 But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister,[a] you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister,[c] you will be liable to the council; and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire.

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Yes, and noting IN CONTEXT…
Brothers and Sisters ARE Brothers and Sisters “IN” Christ…
Calling them a “FOOL” is Personal to their Being, and is in context of them being “A FOOL” for having submitted unto the Lord God.

And that is different than calling someone FOOLISH, which is in application to a BEHAVIOR, or having rejected the Lord God.



Yes that is their Eternal Abode…But…to remember, what (regarding a human) is sent to the Lake of Fire….
IS a LIFELESS body,
IS a LIFELESS soul,
and their natural “spirit”, (ie natural truth in their heart)….(since their spirit was NOT born again from Gods SEED).
and IS BURNT UP, (and become ash / dust) and remembered no more.



Glory to God,
Taken


So you think Jesus punishes people FOREVER for calling someone a "fool"? Don't you think that's a tad much?
 
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Do you believe Jesus's statement? And do you believe that those sent to "the hell[d] of fire" remain there FOREVER?

Matthew 5:22
22 But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister,[a] you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister,[c] you will be liable to the council; and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire.
There's a figure of speech in the verse.

There's a progression here - (a) liable to judgment, (b) liable to the Council, (c) liable to hell. Note that the three are alike in character - they are all types of judgment. But there is a progression in severity.

That progression is a way of creating emphasis. That's the point. THAT's the point. That. IS. the. point. It isn't necessarily fully literal; exaggeration is allowed here as part of the literary device for the purpose of creating that progression and emphasis.

A note: if this is fully literal then Jesus condemns Himself, because He calls someone 'FOOL' several times here in the same book (Matthew).
 
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I think this is the point that Jesus wanted to us to think about:

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The master of Parables also uses Hyperbole. Imagine that. Hyperbole and Parabole. (Math joke. Let's see who gets it.)
 

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"if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire"​

You never did tell us what footnote [d] says.
 

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Do you believe Jesus's statement? And do you believe that those sent to "the hell[d] of fire" remain there FOREVER?
Whether Gehenna (the burning garbage dump in the valley of Ben Hinnon outside of Jerusalem used as a smoky and stinky metaphor for the fate of the wicked) is eternal is a @St. SteVen-type question. I assume that's what you REALLY want to talk about.
 
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Do you believe Jesus's statement? And do you believe that those sent to "the hell[d] of fire" remain there FOREVER?

Matthew 5:22
22 But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister,[a] you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister,[c] you will be liable to the council; and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire.
I believe everything Jesus says.
 

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Do you believe Jesus's statement? And do you believe that those sent to "the hell[d] of fire" remain there FOREVER?

Matthew 5:22
22 But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister,[a] you will be liable to judgment; and if you insult a brother or sister,[c] you will be liable to the council; and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell[d] of fire.
Yes,

If we say you are a fool. You commited a sin, the wage of sin is death. And hence, you are liable to hellfire.

so we better repent and recieve Gods free gift of salvation. Or this will be Us

and yes. Hell is forever..God will not let satan or his angels out. He will not let humans who reject him out either
 

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So you think Jesus punishes people FOREVER for calling someone a "fool"? Don't you think that's a tad much?
No.

they are punished for not recieving his salvation.

He paid for that sin, but if they reject his offer of salvation they will reject his love and suffer the consequences.
 
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Everyone is a fool, everyone has been a fool at one time or another and we know it ourselves !
I was a fool, for X, Y and Z. I can point them all out to myself, I admit it !
I am saying to myself what an idiot is was ! Why was I taken in ?
I had to remedy the problem ! Why was it that other people did not warn me of such !

I am just talking about my working life i should of stood up to such people and retort them ! i did a bit but for their outright anger to me as pathetic ! and i clearly remember such. I was totaly correct and they totaly wrong !

For they clearly had no regard for me ! so i just copt it.
Looking back i am so angered by such ! I can not forgive that of them, it was me who was played for a fool and i was taken for a fool !
It really get's to me, because i can not forgive them and i sure as hell should not forgive such as them, because they knew what they were doing and did it because they could.
It's like you are trying to help someone out but you just get sh1t on ! and they laugh ! I have done so at times and one says X needs help for he is in a real pickel and i do and get total full on bastard ignorance in my face full on ! and i am set out as the monster to others who were not their and they piss on crap to me. but I was set up ! they do not care less.

They are Fools ! in fact for they work evil ! they can not help themselves in fact, they think such is all a good joke and they do such day in day out, that's how they are in fact. They work to destroy people and cause trouble !
I seen such at school, brats trying to get another to bash up another just for kicks ! but when such a brat copes a flooging, well they do not like that at all ? the peddler copt it for once, disaster ! he and his mates caused how many to be bashed, but when they cop it such is real serious but regards others it's all just a great joke ! it's just so, so funny !

So such people are fools ! because what one sows comes around. it will bite them in the ass as well given time, so they are in fact a Fool ! and someone needs to point such out regardless ! like you are a fool mate ! this is not done in malice but in the Light of God in fact, for it's True ! and the fact is that the Truth will set you free ? Their is nothing wrong with the Truth ! only that good for nothing people can not handle the Truth in fact ! because the Truth can hurt a fool.

But if one is a seeker of God, one has to be carful not to call such a one a fool ? because they are truly seeking ! and if you say such you can undermine that spark in them that they seek to grow ? so in that sense one has to be carful ! with Grace comes understanding, one needs Grace to truly bring one to God ! they may not get it, but patience is a virtue !