If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[pittsburghjoe]

Why do you think most of the beasts rise out of the sea? JESUS started fishing men out of the beast system and making them citizens of His Kingdom.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Isaiah 9:1-3

1 Nevertheless the dimness shall not be such as was in her vexation, when at the first he lightly afflicted the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, and afterward did more grievously afflict her by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, in Galilee of the nations.

2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

3 Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the they joy before thee according to the joy in harvest, and as men rejoice when they divide the spoil.

Matthew 4:16-19

The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.

 

[APAK]

Why do you think most of the beasts rise out of the sea? JESUS started fishing men out of the beast system and making them citizens of His Kingdom.

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Interesting interpretation of Rev 21:1...on the surface it is genius and it is the symbolic 'sea' attached to the beasts....I will have to trace it backwards and sideways....thanks for providing some new investigative work here...

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Interesting interpretation of Rev 21:1...on the surface it is genius and it is the symbolic 'sea' attached to the beasts....I will have to trace it backwards and sideways....thanks for providing some new investigative work here...

i think the one beast that came out of the land was a beast from The Church. it had two horns like a lamb, but spoke like a dragon.

so many monsters we called "pope" before the Reformation.

a beast either comes out of beast system ...the sea of the dead ...or land, Religion involving CHRIST. JESUS Pulls us out of sea onto land.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Jesus Christ is the King of Israel = the Servants of God.
The Servants of God are who serve Jesus Christ.
Nathaniel was called a true Israelite by Jesus, so he was truly worthy of the fact, Just as was Jacob was in fact and he was given the Title because he was worthy and given this Title by an Angel.

 

[APAK]

i think the one beast that came out of the land was a beast from The Church. it had two horns like a lamb, but spoke like a dragon.

so many monsters we called "pope" before the Reformation.

a beast either comes out of beast system ...the sea of the dead ...or land, Religion involving CHRIST. JESUS Pulls us out of sea onto land.

Rev 21:1...NO SEA anymore, when the new heaven and earth arrives to those that Jesus saved or rescued (to 'dry land')- all those that could be rescued at the judgement. NO more human evil beast system, it is destroyed along with death. Death and mortality are gone, turned into immortality.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Rev 21:1...NO SEA anymore, when the new heaven and earth arrives to those that Jesus saved or rescued (to 'dry land')- all those that could be rescued at the judgement. NO more human evil beast system, it is destroyed along with death. Death and mortality are gone, turned into immortality.

Curious how we get dunked in water to be Reborn.

 

[APAK]

Curious how we get dunked in water to be Reborn.

A loaded/trick question?.lol

Dunked to become initiated/recognized as a member of the current Beast system....not for me thank you...I got dunked by the Spirit of truth of the Almighty, the same as Christ.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

A loaded/trick question?.lol

Dunked to become initiated/recognized as a member of the current Beast system....not for me thank you...I got dunked by the Spirit of truth of the Almighty, the same as Christ.

i was thinking more like we die to the beast system in water and popup Saved. But i get that JESUS Baptizes with Fire.

 

[APAK]

i was thinking more like we die to the beast system in water and popup Saved. But i get that JESUS Baptizes with Fire.

Copy that...I overreacted...coming out of the sea (beast system) to new life....of course,,very good

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Sure sounds like we have a crown for reigning right now if someone can take it from us.

Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

satan is bound because he can't accuse anyone that has JESUS as an Advocate. JESUS fulfilled The Law meaning we can use JESUS as a trump card for anything satan could possibly throw at us. With Archangel Michael kicking satan out, i don't think he can even enter the Courtroom anymore.

The Book of Daniel already happened. Scripture doesn't say that only the people living at the time were written in the Book. 70 A.D. and 135 A.D. was trouble.


Dan 12:1

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.


Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If beasts rise up out of sea and land, is the "sea" a sea of dead spirits (society/beast system) and the land symbolized as religion with satan's spin on Christianity?

 

[APAK]

If beasts rise up out of sea and land, is the "sea" a sea of dead spirits (society/beast system) and the land symbolized as religion with satan's spin on Christianity?

The first part yes..and the second part no...not quite..there are two camps on land today, the evil spin on Christianity, the false church along with the true church, of the minority...

 

[Waiting on him]

Revelation 15:2-3 KJV
[2] And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. [3] And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

How can there be a Millennium Reign after The Return with an obvious King JESUS without people becoming automatically elected and causing an unfair chance of SALVATION?

Why would GOD put us in the same situation that the angels fell in for a thousand years? There is no second chance round.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Another way satan is bound is that he can't prevent anyone from Choosing the Narrow Path of SALVATION. Even people at their rock bottom still have the opportunity to face The Light. They can choose to stop eating from the tree of knowledge.

 

[APAK]

@pittsburghjoe is the seal or mark of the Beast the default setting of the adult unsaved?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

@pittsburghjoe is the seal or mark of the Beast the default setting of the adult unsaved?

Yes, it is choosing satan's plan from the tree of knowledge. choosing your own plan without GOD is choosing death ...satan.

This is curious:
Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

//Do Premills think Salvation with the Kingdom of our GOD is after The Return?

 

[APAK]

Yes, it is choosing satan's plan from the tree of knowledge. choosing your own plan without GOD is choosing death ...satan.

This is curious:
Revelation 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

//Do Premills think Salvation with the Kingdom of our GOD is after The Return?

agreed....
Premills do believe their salvation into the Kingdom of God only comes after The Return. And then they have lots of explaining to do...like why do they think they are not saved into the Kingdom today within their own renewed spirits? The final return and the rapture must happen to translate our bodies into immortality, to suit or conform us for the final state of the Body of Christ in The Kingdom. And then the new heaven and earth will be fully realized and experienced. We are not raptured to be rescued from the evils of this world per se. This evil will automatically be destroyed in the process of our uplifting glory with Christ. The current state of the Kingdom must be cleansed first.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

agreed....
Premills do believe their salvation into the Kingdom of God only comes after The Return.

We do?