If Reality Is A Simulation, Then Belief Is The Code

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But did you have more faith for the blessing or your belief that they would need a miracle just survive? Maybe somewhere down deep in your heart you had a bigger expectation that they would die?

No, I was expecting to come back and see them alive. Like I said, I felt moved in my spirit to do so, and the words flowed out of my mouth. Perhaps it was preparation for today.

All prayers offered to God will be answered if they are within His will. I doubt that plants thriving is not in His will, so something else happened? Did you pray to God to do it and bless the plants? Or did you speak to the plants themselves?

Your doubts in this instance only reflect your thoughts. Why do you think God wouldn't want a plant to die? Ask Jonah about that. He did it to express a truth to Jonah, maybe the same with me.

You see some miracles are done by God and in a few places in scripture it tells us to use our authority (In Christ's name). So I'm thinking that, perhaps if you had spoken directly to the plants they would have lived?

In fact I did. And they did not.

If you are seeking fault in my faith, don't waste your time. I fully know God can and does do such things.

But are you really thinking that anything you speak believing it will happen, that it will in fact happen?

Scripture tells that man was told, be fruitful and multiply and subdue the earth. When we see Jesus in scripture healing people and casting out demons, we see that Jesus did not pray to God to heal this person. He didnt ask God to drive the demons out. He spoke to them directly and used His authority instead of God miraculous power.

His authority and not God's power? That seems really off to me, to seek to divorce Jesus' authority, given Him by God, from the power of God.

Matthew 12:28 KJV
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

There's Power and Authority and they are not the same. Power is miraculous creative power where God brings something new to manifest, and Authority is the flip side of the same coin but is done with personal authority and not God's miraculous power.

And this is where this philosophy goes off the rails. You are not Jesus.

Let me ask you this. Can you show me some examples of this in the Scriptures? Not Jesus, others, who speak of their own authority, and cause miraculous things to happen?

Acts 3:6 KJV
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

This tells me the Apostles knew the truth.

Like the lepers that Jesus healed. He healed 10 lepers and that was done with authority, but when only one returned to give thanks, God rewarded him with being made whole again. (His fingers and body parts that had fell off were made new from God's Power. Only 1 of the 10 was made whole, they one who returned to give thanks.

I've never heard this before, how do you figure?

Luke 17:17-19 KJV
17) And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?
18) There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.
19) And he said unto him, Arise, go thy way: thy faith hath made thee whole (lit. "saved")

Where does this mention fingers and toes, or in what actual state these lepers were in? All ten, being cleansed from leprosy, were saved from that disease. Beyond that simple truth is the silence of Scripture.

I duno, I'm just scratching the surface with these things!

I've done a lot more than scratch the surface. You are on the edge of a cliff, is how I see it.

Do you think people are able to convince themselves of things that are not true? If they do, will that change what is false to true?

Much love!

 

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Back in the OT I see that God instructed the Israelite farmers to grow food for 6 years on the land and the 7th year they were to let the land rest. There's a good reason for that I bet!

Allowing the land to lie fallow is a well known farming practice, to allow the land to regenerate it's nutrients.

Were they told to speak to the land to produce double crops that sixth year? I don't recall reading such a place myself.

Much love!

 

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But that's a point.

Matthew 10:8
8: Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.../KJV

Jesus didn't say pray to God to do it. He said go and do it! Is this correct or not?

Obviously it is God's power alone to effect miraculous creative miracles, but jesus gave us all authority un His Name. Right or wrong?

Are you saying God gives that same authority to everyone? Or just those to whom it was given in the text?

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Oh I know you're looking for an argument, but how do you know how thick that God slices His bologna?! Laugh or scoff, I don't care. I'm just thinking...

 

[Wrangler]

But that's a point.

Matthew 10:8
8: Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.../KJV

Jesus didn't say pray to God to do it. He said go and do it! Is this correct or not?

Obviously it is God's power alone to effect miraculous creative miracles, but jesus gave us all authority un His Name. Right or wrong?

Christians have a hard time accepting their role in the agency of God’s will. Prolly cuz they don’t understand power. The one with power has others do his bidding in dealing with peons. He doesn’t deal with peons directly.

That’s why mom told me to tell you it is dinner time! She’s too powerful to talk directly when an agent is available to do her bidding. LOL.

 

[MA2444]

Christians have a hard time accepting their role in the agency of God’s will. Prolly cuz they don’t understand power. The one with power has others do his bidding in dealing with peons. He doesn’t deal with peons directly.

That’s why mom told me to tell you it is dinner time! She’s too powerful to talk directly when an agent is available to do her bidding. LOL.

But who do think you are, in Christ?

As near as I can tell, power is the miraculous power of God seems to bring something with it. Power manifesting. The Red Sea parting, the lepers (1) when his fingers grew out new where they had fallen off. Now Jesus didn't tell us to go do Power manifistations. but to do Authority which has it's place but we do not command God's Power!

But we do command His Authority. He gave that to us in scripture. So we can do some things but not other things. Oh so Power brings and adds something new creatively, and Authority always has something to do with something leaving. Sickness leaving, evil spirits leaving.

I'm sure not trying to usurp God in any way, but all things have become new...and for those who Believe, they will do all that Jesus did and more. Jesus has won the victory and we are yo occupy and enforce the Victory until He comes.

So we can do somethings just on the authority of Jesus name. It's like being in the Service a sergeant has more authority than a Corporal. So what we are to do I think, is to, start Identifying with the Lord! I hold myself to Faith in the Lord to do what He said He would do in His Word and...do it! Put it into the Lord's hands in prayer and within self and focus on the expectation that...the Lord will do it within His will and we are supposed to be within His will. That's sort of the reason some prayers dont get answered, because we ask amiss. And the Lord told me one time that it is not a decision of the mind for that is carnal, it is a decision of the heart. What is our heart's intentions. The Lord looks at the heart and our intentions! When we set our intentions in our heart and focus on the Lord, therein is our prayer.

When the round of Stimulus checks came out before I had plans to spend it all in one day, on things that I usually cant afford with a monthly SS check. because it might not happen again! So I drew out the money and went shopping all day and came home broke but with some cool new toys. For some reason I had to go down in the basement and when I did I walked into warm water all over the floor. That's what I do so I knew instantly that I need to replace the water heater. I shut off the water to it and started to get bummed out because I had enough money this morning to buy a new water heater and I just spent all the money, and it was spread out. I wondered why didnt the Lord warn me? He could have said, dont spend it all! But he didnt so I wondered what will happen and I concluded that I would not have hot water for the better part of a month until the 3rd again when they pay me. It would set me back some and that would cost me, I gotta have hot water.

At that point it started to bug me that the Lord didnt give me a nudge to save some money and not spend it all! And that very day the HWH goes bad! WHat's going on here anyway?! And I started laughing and I prayed, Lord I don't know what you are doing here with my HWH but I trust you and so wont worry about it, Amen.

I copied down the model and serial number so I could get an exact replacment so I would need only minimum materials to install it. I know how to read the date codes on them and I seen that it was 5.5 years old, just out of warranty. I already knew that though, Lol! So when I called the Rheem dealer the next morning and I told him I wanted an exact replacement so I gave him the model & serial numbers and after putting me on hold for a few he gets back on and says yep we have that exact model in stock, so just the bring us the sticker because it is under warranty! (WHAT?!) I should have known that, I do know that. That is my Trade and I was a Rheem dealer and that's one of their selling points, their standard model has always come with a 6 yr warranty whereas all the other companies have 5 year standard warranties. So I got to pick it up and install it that day, for free!

What I conclude is that, the Lord was testing me. Testing my faith in Him? Would I get mad and shake my fist at Him or laugh and say, I dunno what your doing Lord, but I trust you...and so I *think* I passed that test! True story, but not earth shaking. I think the Lord made me forget that Rheem has a 6 yr warranty just to test me, lol!

I feel like a Corporal. I've seen some stuff but I also see so much more training in front of me! A Sergeant is like the top of the bottom of the barrel I think. I wouldn't mind getting some Lieutenant stripes though.

 

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The Red Sea parting, the lepers (1) when his fingers grew out new where they had fallen off.

Did you see this on The Chosen?

Much love!

 

[PGS11]

You could say Humans have a duel nature physical and spiritual.The universe also has a duel nature - wave form and solid mater.Einstein hinted at this when he said is the moon there if no one is observing it.He saying the moon reverts to wave form when not observed similar to a photon its a particle when observed and a wave when not observed.

A simulation would fit more with the hologram theory which has yet to be proven wrong.
What is the theory and where did it come from?It comes from Steven Hawking's radiation of how a black hole would evaporate over time.It was found that the entropy of a black hole equalled its surface area when looked at as a two dimensional object.So another guy applied it to the entire universe and it worked even the the two theories could be unified.But its too much for everyone.
It implies everything is a illusion and everything really exists as information on a two dimensional surface. The information would be coming from somewhere else.So in the hologram theory this is one big play ground like Avatar your not really here your somewhere else or your just a character in a story and don't really exist.

 

[MA2444]

Did you see this on The Chosen?

Much love!

yeah but only because I read it in the Bible first and liked the story. So I dont watch every episode of the Chosen but I did see that one.

 

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yeah but only because I read it in the Bible first and liked the story. So I dont watch every episode of the Chosen but I did see that one.

That part is not Biblical. This is why I don't recommend the show. I've known others also who thought things happened that didn't having seen it on that show.

Much love!

 

[Gottservant]

Just in response to the Matrix concept: what is interesting, is that not only is a veil over people's eyes (that is, in the Matrix) but people love that veil - they would fight tooth and nail to have it left alone.

 

[MA2444]

That part is not Biblical. This is why I don't recommend the show. I've known others also who thought things happened that didn't having seen it on that show.

Much love!

What wasn't biblical about it?

 

[MA2444]

Just in response to the Matrix concept: what is interesting, is that not only is a veil over people's eyes (that is, in the Matrix) but people love that veil - they would fight tooth and nail to have it left alone.

Everybody has their favorite sin or pleasures of the flesh, but what's sad is your right.

 

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What wasn't biblical about it?

The whole thing about the 9 being healed but not restored, while the 1 was healed and restored. They were all cleansed just the same, and there is no mention of any difference in their subsequent physical condition.

10 lepers were healed, one returned and gave thanks, end of story. The rest is made up by Dallas Jenkins, or whomever it was.

Much love!

 

[MA2444]

The whole thing about the 9 being healed but not restored, while the 1 was healed and restored. They were all cleansed just the same, and there is no mention of any difference in their subsequent physical condition.

10 lepers were healed, one returned and gave thanks, end of story. The rest is made up by Dallas Jenkins, or whomever it was.

Much love!

I don't think so. It's in Luke

Luke 17:11-19
11 As Jesus continued on toward Jerusalem, he reached the border between Galilee and Samaria. 12 As he entered a village there, ten men with leprosy stood at a distance, 13 crying out, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!”

14 He looked at them and said, “Go show yourselves to the priests.”[b] And as they went, they were cleansed of their leprosy.

15 One of them, when he saw that he was healed, came back to Jesus, shouting, “Praise God!” 16 He fell to the ground at Jesus’ feet, thanking him for what he had done. This man was a Samaritan.

17 Jesus asked, “Didn’t I heal ten men? Where are the other nine? 18 Has no one returned to give glory to God except this foreigner?” 19 And Jesus said to the man, “Stand up and go. Your faith has healed you.[c]”.../KJV

look at the text I have bolded. They were healed of the leprosy on the way to the Priests. Then in verse 17 stand up and go you're healed?

Is that 2nd healing for him?
Is that a reason to think that something different didnt happen to this one who gave thanks? It's as plain as the nose on my face to me.

Please explain your view here.

 

[MA2444]

"They were Cleansed" :

G2511 - katharizō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G2511 - καθαρίζω katharízō, kath-ar-id'-zo; from ; to cleanse (literally or figuratively):—(make) clean(-se), purge, purify.

www.blueletterbible.org

"Healed"

G4982 - sōzō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G4982 - σώζω sṓzō, sode'-zo; from a primary σῶς sōs (contraction for obsolete σάος sáos, "safe"); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively):—heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

www.blueletterbible.org

They didnt use the same word, take a gander...

 

[Jericho]

What would happen if after it's all over and everyone was sitting around heaven and we found out that nothing terrible ever happened on earth? No one was ever raped, murdered, stolen from or anything else that ever happened to them, because it was sort of dream or vision just to test our reactions? I dunno?

I have had similar thoughts. I do suspect that God has allowed things to play out as they are as sort of an object lesson. Living in this imperfect, fallen world/universe does give us an interesting perspective that I think we otherwise would not be able to obtain. For instance, we learn faith, perseverance, and courage. These are attributes we would have never developed in paradise. We fully understand the consequences of sin and gain a greater appreciation of Heaven. We gain new insights into the character of God by witnessing how he deals with our fallen nature. Through the crucifixion, we have learned the lengths God went through to redeem us and a dimension of God’s love we never would have known otherwise.

I don't know if I would call this world/life a simulation; that implies it's not real. It is real; it's just that there is a higher reality out there, which we can't directly observe or detect. That trips up the atheists because they only go by their senses. But reality is much larger than we can perceive. Even the quantum world works much differently than our own. What's impossible in our macro world is possible at the quantum level, like two particles existing in multiple locations simultaneously. I have written about my own musings on the nature of reality in this thread.

 

[MA2444]

I have had similar thoughts. I do suspect that God has allowed things to play out as they are as sort of an object lesson. Living in this imperfect, fallen world/universe does give us an interesting perspective that I think we otherwise would not be able to obtain. For instance, we learn faith, perseverance, and courage. These are attributes we would have never developed in paradise. We fully understand the consequences of sin and gain a greater appreciation of Heaven. We gain new insights into the character of God by witnessing how he deals with our fallen nature. Through the crucifixion, we have learned the lengths God went through to redeem us and a dimension of God’s love we never would have known otherwise.

I don't know if I would call this world/life a simulation; that implies it's not real. It is real; it's just that there is a higher reality out there, which we can't directly observe or detect. That trips up the atheists because they only go by their senses. But reality is much larger than we can perceive. Even the quantum world works much differently than our own. What's impossible in our macro world is possible at the quantum level, like two particles existing in multiple locations simultaneously. I have written about my own musings on the nature of reality in this thread.

Exactly. Scripture seems to back all of it up. I've heard the earth be called God's University of Brotherly Love. I thought about that and why would we need to learn about Love when we were in heaven?

Could it be that something happened, like when Lucifer fell in heaven. Was we on the sidelines listening? Scripture says that 1/3 of the Angels fell with Lucifer. There had to be talk, that had to a big event. So, we overheard some talk and perhaps heard Lucifer was called evil? And someone opened their mouth and asked what is evil? God may have said well it's the opposite of Love...? So we said, what's love? We had no knowledge of good & evil yet and had only lived in heaven within Love but how could we understand what Love is unless we learned about evil too?

And what good Father turns his kids away when they ask a question? Go figure it out for yourself boy! God isnt like that so he made a plan to make a school for us, and use Lucifer & the fallen Angels would be totally willing to harass us? So here we are? Satan are the teachers of evil and God is the Teacher of Love?

In other words, we may have asked for it! (If That turns out to be so, maybe next time, I'll just trust the Lord and keep my big mouth shut! (Wow.) What a hard class!

That's pure musings and speculation of course!

 

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I don't think so. It's in Luke

Luke 17:11-19
11 As Jesus continued on toward Jerusalem, he reached the border between Galilee and Samaria. 12 As he entered a village there, ten men with leprosy stood at a distance, 13 crying out, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!”

14 He looked at them and said, “Go show yourselves to the priests.”[b] And as they went, they were cleansed of their leprosy.

15 One of them, when he saw that he was healed, came back to Jesus, shouting, “Praise God!” 16 He fell to the ground at Jesus’ feet, thanking him for what he had done. This man was a Samaritan.

17 Jesus asked, “Didn’t I heal ten men? Where are the other nine? 18 Has no one returned to give glory to God except this foreigner?” 19 And Jesus said to the man, “Stand up and go. Your faith has healed you.[c]”.../KJV

look at the text I have bolded. They were healed of the leprosy on the way to the Priests. Then in verse 17 stand up and go you're healed?

Is that 2nd healing for him?
Is that a reason to think that something different didnt happen to this one who gave thanks? It's as plain as the nose on my face to me.

Please explain your view here.

It's what I already said. There is no second healing in Scripture. "your faith has healed you" or literally, "your faith has saved you". It's a reference to the cleansing of leprosy. Jesus said this same thing a number of times to people He had healed.

I truly stand against The Chosen, it infects minds with falsehoods as if they came from Scripture. You are not the first I've seen this happen to. A fellow I know at church thought that Nicodemas had attempted and failed to cast out 7 demons from Mary Magdeline. Another fellow I know had thought that Peter had ongoing tax issues with Rome because he saw it on The Chosen.

You've seen this in The Chosen, and now think it's real. That's the cliff.

Much love!

 

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"They were Cleansed" :

G2511 - katharizō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G2511 - καθαρίζω katharízō, kath-ar-id'-zo; from ; to cleanse (literally or figuratively):—(make) clean(-se), purge, purify.

www.blueletterbible.org

"Healed"

G4982 - sōzō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)

G4982 - σώζω sṓzō, sode'-zo; from a primary σῶς sōs (contraction for obsolete σάος sáos, "safe"); to save, i.e. deliver or protect (literally or figuratively):—heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

www.blueletterbible.org

They didnt use the same word, take a gander...

That's correct, He did not. Can you tell me in your own words the meanings of both words, and how they speak towards the man's healing, and how they speak towards whether this was second healing, or a reference to the first healing?

And can you show me how it refers to physical restorations of his fingers, and how it speaks towards the others not having the same healing?

After you've done so I'll happily answer these questions myself.

I don't see any of that. He was cleansed of leprosy as were the others. Jesus said the same thing He said to others, your faith has saved you.

God help Dallas Jenkins! Where Scripture is silent, Dallas is not, and fills peoples minds with vain imaginations, leading them down false paths.

Much love!