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Raised in a new body, is those who occupy the face of the earth, not suffering the lake of fire.
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raised in an indestructible body I cor 5
Recovering from complete shoulder replacement
Pray all is well @Learner.Recovering from complete shoulder replacement
1Co 15:35 But someone will say, How can the dead be raised? With what [kind of] body will they come forth?Raised in a new body, is those who occupy the face of the earth, not suffering the lake of fire.
Several reasons. The first one is that it is an unfounded assumption.....that needs unpacking.
Secondly, the devil and his hordes will all come to a miserable end at the appointed time.
You might look at Ezekiel 28.....yes, the whole chapter but in particular verses 18-19
Yes, they do. A 'spirit', in one definition (another is simply breath of life of God), is simply an intelligence, having a mind (rational) and heart (emotion).Spirits do NOT Die.
The Bible teaches that humans are made up of both body and spirit. Life begins when the two are united, and life ends when the two are separated.Yes, they do. A 'spirit', in one definition (another is simply breath of life of God), is simply an intelligence, having a mind (rational) and heart (emotion).
Ecc_8:8 There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.Psa_34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.Psa_51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.Heb_4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Psa_146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
God IS Spirit...Yes, they do. A 'spirit', in one definition (another is simply breath of life of God), is simply an intelligence, having a mind (rational) and heart (emotion).
Ecc_8:8 There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.Psa_34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.Psa_51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.Heb_4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Psa_146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
What makes you think they died for good? Humans are attached too much to our physical bodies.No God isn’t.
There are lots of people in the Bible that God punished rather than forgave. How about everyone that died in the desert during the 40 years and never entered the Promised Land for a starter?
"What makes me think ..."?What makes you think they died for good? Humans are attached too much to our physical bodies.
So, then your theology is "an age" and then annihilation for the Christ-rejectors, but, notaiōnion which means "for an age". So it's really just a translation error to think that the all-loving, all-forgiving God tortures people forever.
Who said anything about annihilation? What is annihilated is the body of sin.So, then your theology is "an age" and then annihilation for the Christ-rejectors, but, not
"an age" and then annihilation for the righteous Christ accepters??? Quite a theology!
I cor 15 outline it from various translations, it is addressed to believers like us, but includes all peoples as does Matthew 25:41-46 goats and sheep have similar DNA.Raised in a new body, is those who occupy the face of the earth, not suffering the lake of fire.
for anyone who wants to read it, Bible Gateway passage: Luke 20 - Easy-to-Read VersionTopic :
Regarding angels (Dying)
Regarding the Born Again :
Luke 20:
[36] Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.
Ezek 28:
[15] Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
[16] By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
Man was Created and Made...very good...body’s of dust, with living souls.
Angels were Created and Made...very good...perfect spirits.
All God has created...never becomes Uncreated.
Destroyed simply means “Made” changed, the Form it WAS, appears Different.
* Dead...means...ceases to Have Life “in” the Void of life Thing.
* Dead...Also, Spiritually means...Separated From God, Having life in it or not.
Ezek. 28 is a recap in-particular regarding Lucifer, regarding the grandeur of him being created and purposed with a high status...
( and reviewing the hierarchy of angels, their particular purposes, Power / authority given them...Lucifer by my study...ranked very high )
The recap continues...regarding Lucifer “using” his status position for Evil rather than Good.
The how, is angels, as does manKIND...have FREEWILL.
The Future is revealed in Scriptural text,
Lucifer, Name...Description...Estate has been changed, because of His Freewill Choices....Against God.
Ezek 28 gives a condensed revealing of Satan’s demise.
[17] Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
[18] Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
* Who is THEM UPON the Earth that can (behold) SEE Satan ?
Who is them? Human men? No, human men do not see spirits.
Who is them? Other Angels? No
Why not other Angels?
Because other...Holy Angels engage in battle with Satan and his band of demonic angels...above the Earth...not upon the Earth.
When?
A battle between holy and demonic angels occurs Before Christ’s 1,000 year reign.
Can them (humans) upon the earth SEE angels Warring? No.
The defeated demonic angels are cast into hell.
THAT ^ is not Satan’s demise,
THAT is Temporary...1,000 Years.
Then ... does Christ reign, WITH, His Holy Angels and “saints”...(Quickened Born again, having been raised in their new Body’s....)
THEM.....are upon the Earth....and can SEE spirits....
Them......are men with quickened spirits, able to SEE spirits.
After 1,000 yr reign...Satan, demons loosed....again Influence the Nations.
Nations are the mortal men having been living, outside Christ’s Kingdom, repopulating, Believing, Dying, getting along with other Nations....
And...here comes Satan with his cunning anti-trickery....and The mortal nations come against Christ’s Kingdom...all mortals participating Killed.
And who is Them Alive UPON the Earth TO See Satan’s Demise?
Immortals....
And what? Another Angelic War battle? No.
Fire sent down from Heaven.
Rev 20:
[9] And they (They Who? Mortal men) went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Ezek 28: 18
I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
That is what “saints”, “holy angels” upon the face of the Earth shall SEE....
The Earths surface...burned (purified) ... Shall See ashes....of What?
Dead mortals...everything they have built...and what about demons?
Can they burn? Nothing says they can’t.
Can they DIE? No.
Can their Form be MADE “ash”? It’s God authority and Power, to MAKE His Creations be MADE whatever pleases Him.
[19] All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Be ANY MORE WHAT?
Alive? Doesn’t say they are Dead.
Reeking Havoc ON the Earth? No.
Influencing ANYONE ON the Earth? No.
Any more ON the Earth? No. No more ON the Earth Forever.
Rev 19:20
Cast ALIVE into the Lake of Fire.
Consider the Whole Truth in context and perspective.
Spirits do NOT Die.
Demonic spirits shall forever be separated from God, holy angels and quickened saints.
Ecclesiastes 8Yes, they do. A 'spirit', in one definition (another is simply breath of life of God), is simply an intelligence, having a mind (rational) and heart (emotion).
Ecc_8:8 There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.Psa_34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.Psa_51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.Heb_4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.Psa_146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.