I asked a supposed "ordained" minister about the morality of abortion

[DuckieLady]

Agree “that people know more about how to talk about people than they do how to help them.” I love your last two paragraphs also.

Honestly topics like these make me think. I had an abortion when I was a teen. I was ignorant and without knowledge of God. I’d heard about God but looking back now, even though I thought I knew God, I had no true knowledge of God. I would never have an abortion now and if I could go back I wouldn’t have one then. It’s a reminder though, I think, same as Paul’s reminder that he consented to Stephens death. It is a reminder for me to not judge those without knowledge of God for the ignorant actions they do.

This topic makes me think back and even though others may not agree…I know God can restore the wrongs we’ve did prior to knowledge of Him. That is hopeful concerning what I did wrong prior to knowledge of God. People may say it’s hopeless but looking at the wrong Paul did to Stephen, and then how God took hold of the harm and has victory and triumph over Paul’s ignorance. where even though Stephen died at the hands of those doing wrong, that isn’t the end of the story. I hope in the same way God will restore the Life I took as a teen, and it is not the end of the story of God’s Victory over sin and the wrong done.

My point in sharing I’ve did what this thread is against …is to share there is prior to knowledge of God and the things we did, and then there is after having knowledge of God. I still think even worse now is two fold: I would NOT make that same decision now, and also I better get it through my head (and acknowledge) that abortion of new converts who are weak and without knowledge is also equally wrong. Aborting God’s little children coming to Him. …as Paul said if he hurt one of those weak and without knowledge, then he so sinned again Christ whom died for those who are weak and without knowledge. This coming from one (Saul) who consented to the stoning of Stephen. And now …Saul went from murder -to I will not harm those weak for in so doing, I harm Christ.

Significant to me is Stephen was killed.
If Paul had no Hope in God’s restoration of what Saul did wrong. Paul would have been miserable and without hope.

My mom has a similar testimony. She had an abortion when she was younger. Then an hour before her appointment with me she prayed and opened to Jeremiah 1:5.

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Because of that verse, I am here. Then she used her testimony and went on to work for a Christian pro-life ministry.

 

[Behold]

Specifically, I asked him if he believes that it's moral for a healthy woman to abort her healthy baby. His response was "It's none of my business".

All I could say was "Wow!".

What do you think about his response?

He didnt want to debate you about it. @NotTheRock

"not interested in this discussion" = "Its none of my business".

Now if a pregnant woman asked him about it, then that makes it his "business".

 

[Behold]

Personally I am against abortion in most cases, but people who do not yet know God through Jesus are still living in the world as sinners and if their governments have made abortion legal then women have free will to decide what's best for them.

I appreciate your point of view, as that is how it is.... in many countries.

It is a fact that if the country has designated that abortion is legal........then that does not mean it makes it right.

This "abortion rights" situation is one of those friction places within a society where the Public Law and God's Morality, do not connect.

Its the same with Gay Adoption.. or Gay Marriage., as even tho this can be LEGALIZED... it will never be morally RIGHT, according to God, or the Bible.

And the discussion that will never land its landing gear on moral solid ground...... is that never ending one about "what if it could cause the mother to die, if the abortion does not take place"......or ... "What about incest or rape that produces a pregnancy"...

So, that has to be balanced against the fact that 1.) an abortion stops a heartbeat every single time... and 2.) when does LIFE begin, and what is that exactly and where?

ALL of that is a valid discussion for Christians to contemplate using bible verses, most of all., as if that is not included then its missing the main ingredient.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

My mom has a similar testimony. She had an abortion when she was younger. Then an hour before her appointment with me she prayed and opened to Jeremiah 1:5.

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

Because of that verse, I am here. Then she used her testimony and went on to work for a Christian pro-life ministry.

You and your mothers testimony is beautiful. I’m glad you are here! It does make me sad, but I’m also happy your mother’s mind was changed by Jeremiah 1:5.